Blocking with sword and magic combo? : V

» Wed Sep 07, 2011 1:42 am

after i read so many debates about not being able to block with dual wielding i forgot i didnt understand if the player can block if he has a magic in one hand and a one handed weapon in the other hand.
same question for blocking with a weapon + staff.

Do these combinations allow blocking?!

how is blocking done? tapping both triggers?

» Wed Sep 07, 2011 2:18 am

No, but you do have shield spells.

» Wed Sep 07, 2011 1:48 am

With the lack of the ability to block with dual weapons, I'm seriously beginning to think that I'm going to go with a standard shield/sword combo.

It's odd to think of a thief with a shield.... but... what are you gonna do? I don't think manually avoiding/dodging will be viable in the game.

» Wed Sep 07, 2011 12:31 am

It would be cool if there was a special attack when you use magic and sword. Like, a flame blast slash, or something, lol. That would probably be too much.. :sadvaultboy:

» Tue Sep 06, 2011 2:41 pm

With the lack of the ability to block with dual weapons, I'm seriously beginning to think that I'm going to go with a standard shield/sword combo.

It's odd to think of a thief with a shield.... but... what are you gonna do? I don't think manually avoiding/dodging will be viable in the game.

You have Dragonshouts and can block with a single weapon.

» Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:06 pm

Yeah and didn't they remove dodging also? Since acrobatics is gone? So you can't deke or block with dual weapons - Which would be the set up I'd use for a nimble rogue character....Lame..
Oh well, I can live with it

» Tue Sep 06, 2011 3:46 pm

You can only block with a weapon and shield, and two handed weapons.

» Tue Sep 06, 2011 6:46 pm

With the lack of the ability to block with dual weapons, I'm seriously beginning to think that I'm going to go with a standard shield/sword combo.

It's odd to think of a thief with a shield.... but... what are you gonna do? I don't think manually avoiding/dodging will be viable in the game.

But are we stealth-types gonna get some sort of "dodge" perk? :shrug:

I think it's a possibility.

EDIT: ... Curate! :celebrate:

:twirl:

» Wed Sep 07, 2011 2:49 am

You can only block with a weapon and shield, and two handed weapons.

really? can't i equip my hero with a one handed weapon and that's it? won't he block with the one handed weapon like he would with a two handed weapon?!

I also think there should be an advantage of using a one handed weapon + empty hand. every combination should have it's perks, if they make sense.

and denying blocking from a spell+weapon is also stupid. can't the hero turn the magic off to hold the weapon with both hands and block??

» Wed Sep 07, 2011 6:22 am

really? can't i equip my hero with a one handed weapon and that's it? won't he block with the one handed weapon like he would with a two handed weapon?!

I also think there should be an advantage of using a one handed weapon + empty hand. every combination should have it's perks, if they make sense.

and denying blocking from a spell+weapon is also stupid. can't the hero turn the magic off to hold the weapon with both hands and block??

You can also block with a one handed weapon and empty hand. Don't worry.

» Tue Sep 06, 2011 3:46 pm

SO...

If I have:

2 Swords
1 Sword, 1 Spell
1 Sword, 1 Staff

You can't block? I don't understand how you can't block with 2 Swords... you could IRL?

Confirmation on Blocking with 2 Swords (pref. 1 Longsword, 1 shortsword?)

» Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:43 am

Not THIS thread again...

» Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:49 am

SO...

If I have:

2 Swords
1 Sword, 1 Spell
1 Sword, 1 Staff

You can't block? I don't understand how you can't block with 2 Swords... you could IRL?

Confirmation on Blocking with 2 Swords (pref. 1 Longsword, 1 shortsword?)

It's for BALANCE. Why should you get to do twice as much damage and still be able to block?

» Wed Sep 07, 2011 12:35 am

And also realistically duel wielding is very hard to master, you can't just expect to go out in the world pick up two swords and know everything about them, plus that makes it so you can't do what everyone did in oblivion, just run forward and hit and run backwards without getting hit, it takes away the small little things that EVERYONE did to skid around certain parts in the game.

» Wed Sep 07, 2011 3:54 am

It's for BALANCE. Why should you get to do twice as much damage and still be able to block?

I think balance is the excuse to make up for lack of buttons for console users. I mean, there's only so many things that can be mapped onto it. Right?

» Tue Sep 06, 2011 5:52 pm

It was seen in the E3 video's that those with styles that can't block will have the ability to bash enemies in order to stagger them. Or you could...move back to dodge a blow or something.

» Tue Sep 06, 2011 9:15 pm

You can also block with a one handed weapon and empty hand. Don't worry.

We agree

@OP That's what shield spells are for. Being able to block while casting offensive and defensive magic and wielding a 1 handed sword is a little much.

» Wed Sep 07, 2011 12:21 am

No you can not block with anything other than a shield or a two handed weapon.

» Tue Sep 06, 2011 6:03 pm

I think balance is the excuse to make up for lack of buttons for console users. I mean, there's only so many things that can be mapped onto it. Right?

Your second sentence is correct, the first, not so much.

» Tue Sep 06, 2011 10:33 pm

[edit]
If you have a two handed weapon you can block. If you have a one handed weapon and nothing in the other hand, you can block. If you have two spells, you can't block unless one is a shield spell. If you have a spell and a sword, you can't block but you can bash them with your weapon to stagger them just before they hit you. If you have two one handed weapons, you can't block, but like before you can parry with a well timed weapon bash.
and a spell and a sword you can cast a defensive ward
and bash with a bow

» Wed Sep 07, 2011 1:02 am

I think balance is the excuse to make up for lack of buttons for console users. I mean, there's only so many things that can be mapped onto it. Right?

Don't even start that crap.

» Tue Sep 06, 2011 6:06 pm

Your second sentence is correct, the first, not so much.

When you think about it, Duel Wielding doesn't have to be over-powered. I mean, with one sword in hand, you have more focus on that hand, so naturally you could do more damage. What if you didn't get any necessarily powerful boosts to duel wielding until you've been using it for quite some time? You could start out not doing as much damage as 2 handed or 1 handed, but still have the ability to use it for the sole purpose of liking the play style. Or, maybe it could have the advantage of opening up more attack points.

» Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:59 am

Maybe I'm just being stupid but I don't see why balance would be the reason. Why would it need to be balanced?
It's not an online game where if something is ridiculously good then it's unfair to other players.
Surely in a single player game balance isn't really an issue as you're not going to be "cheating" anybody.
If they really thought it was a bit too good why not make it a perk at the very top of the the dual weapon tree. :confused:

» Tue Sep 06, 2011 6:19 pm

Maybe I'm just being stupid but I don't see why balance would be the reason. Why would it need to be balanced?
It's not an online game where if something is ridiculously good then it's unfair to other players.
Surely in a single player game balance isn't really an issue as you're not going to be "cheating" anybody.
If they really thought it was a bit too good why not make it a perk at the very top of the the dual weapon tree. :confused:

It encourages people to try other combat styles, as each has their own advantages and disadvantages.

Making one style better than the rest is simply illogical.

» Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:34 am

I think if you plan on having two separate attacks (one in each hand) you won't be able to block. Not that you should even be worried about blocking when you have a sword in one hand and a flamethrower in the other?