anyone know how to start i tried everything left city and everything

It's a really glitchy quest. For some people it never starts no matter how many times they try, despite having done nothing else in the city that could mix it up. I was fortunate, it happened the second time I was in the city.

starting to annoy me sitting here for 2 hours trying everything to start it looking on utube still dont work :brokencomputer:

Ah well, nothing you can do till they get a patch out, sorry bro.

To get the house (on pc) and enable decoration options
Click on Jorleif in the console and type:

setstage a7b33 10
completequest ms11
completequest ms11b

The debris will still be there but i think you can remove that too haven't tested.

guess gotta wait for a patch or never be able to buy the house i rele want :sadvaultboy:

It started for me when I walked into this little cemetary and saw a bunch of people standing around.I talked to them and the quest started.

been by that cemetary so many time i think i know every rock and snow on the ground

buy the windhelm house thats how i started it

According to the guide you have to enter and exit Windhelm 4 times.I don't know it that means the city itself or the whole cell.

I worked on this quest with my buddy for two freaking hours and we followed it online to exact specifications. We teleported out of the city to another, then re-entered windhelm from the stables each time during the evening. We did it 5 times I believe before entering the final time. There were people at a grave stone which were examining a body and once you speak with the guard there it initiates Blood on the ice.
I don't believe this quest is even able to be completed past a certain point in the game as I was a bit farther into it then my friend was and had to force it all through console and then spend 3 hours cleaning up evidence and cobwebs >.>. Even after completing the quest perfectly each step, we still had to force the steward to offer the house with the 'say' command.

If anyone is lucky enough to complete it like he did (even though he still had to use the say command at the end), remember to clean house option first with the steward and then leave and check your house to make sure. Then buy all the decorations and it should be a pristine house. If you don't pick clean up first the option will disappear entirely from the stewards list and you will be stuck with it or have to delete everything manually to make it clean.

So long story short, it can be buggy either way you do it whether its forced through console or done properly through quest there can still be a screw up somewhere, since it was meant to be a more complex storyline involving multiple npc's and span over several days, as well as have a couple different outcomes with the same reward in the end. The quest was fun to us while we were not struggling with it, and I hope they fix it ASAP, the house is great to have.

i did that plus i tried buying house and he was telling me i cant cuz there is a problem with the house at the moment not specific words but basically what he said :sadvaultboy: