Body Mod Issues II : IV

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:38 am

I've had this problem in the past, and it's come back with my latest FCOM installation. As far as I know, everything is working fine except for Robert's Male Body mod v5. I had managed to fix this last time by downgrading to v4, but even that isn't working this time around.

The mod itself works fine, but vanilla clothing is incompatible with it, even with the patches. I haven't tried any modded clothing. Shirts make gaps at the wrists, pants/shoes make gaps at the ankles etc.

I've created my bashed patch, installed all compatibility patches, tried downgrading, (which as I said fixed it last time) and have even reinstalled everything. I'm clearly doing something wrong as this has happened numerous times now and no one else seems to have this problem.

Screenshots:

http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac239/powermapler/ScreenShot0-1.jpg http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac239/powermapler/ScreenShot1-1.jpg

Same goes for modded races:

http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac239/powermapler/ScreenShot2.jpg http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac239/powermapler/ScreenShot3.jpg

And finally, both the Aureal and Mazken won't register RMB at all, even with RBP's compatibility patches. http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac239/powermapler/ScreenShot4.jpg

Load Order:

Spoiler

00 Oblivion.esm
01 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm [Version 4.5bSI]
02 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm [Version 4.5bSI]
03 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.73]
04 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34]
05 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3]
06 FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9MB3]
07 Armamentarium.esm [Version 1.35]
08 Artifacts.esm [Version 1.1]
09 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.0]
0A UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0]
0B Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
0C DLCShiveringIsles.esp
0D Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0]
0E Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp
0F Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp
10 Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp
11 Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp
++ FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9]
12 FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ Item interchange - Extraction.esp [Version 0.76]
13 DLCHorseArmor.esp
14 DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
15 DLCOrrery.esp
16 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.3]
17 DLCVileLair.esp
18 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
** Lair_mobs.esp
19 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
1A DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]
** Mehrunes_mobs.esp
1B DLCSpellTomes.esp
++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]
1C DLCThievesDen.esp
1D DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
1E DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.4]
** Thievesden_mobs.esp
++ MMM_Runeskull_Rebalance_BETA2.esp [Version Beta]
1F Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.73]
20 Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63]
21 Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
22 FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9]
23 Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp
++ FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp [Version 0.9.9]
24 Oblivion WarCry EV.esp [Version 1.09]
25 FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9MB5]
26 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34]
++ OOO-Water_Weeds.esp [Version 1.33]
** OMOBS_SI.esp [Version 2.0]
++ ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp [Version 1.35]
27 ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp [Version 1.35]
28 OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp [Version 1.72]
++ FCOM_Cobl.esp [Version 0.9.9]
29 Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
2A FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3]
++ FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp [Version 0.9.9beta2]
2B FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9]
2C FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp [Version 0.9.9]
2D Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
2E Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
2F Mart's Monster Mod - Zombies for Body Meshes.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
30 Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
31 Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
32 Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
33 Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
34 Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3f]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot G&GD.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp [Version 0.9.9]
** FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp [Version 0.9.9]
35 FCOM_MoreRandomSpawns.esp [Version 0.9.9]
36 FCOM_MoreRandomItems.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp [Version 2.01]
++ ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp [Version 1.35]
37 OOO-WaterFish.esp [Version 1.34]
++ MMM-Cobl.esp [Version 1.73]
38 Artifacts.esp [Version 1.1]
++ Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp [Version 1.0]
39 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
3A DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]
** Battlehorn_mobs.esp
3B DLCFrostcrag.esp
3C DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]
3D Knights.esp
3E Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9]
** DLC_MOBS.esp
++ FCOM_Knights.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3]
3F Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp [Version 3.08]
40 bgBalancingEVCore.esp [Version 10.52EV-D]
41 bgBalancingOptionalLessHealth.esp [Version 10.0UV-U]
++ bgBalancingEVOptionalClasses.esp [Version 9.0EV-U]
++ bgBalancingEVOptionalFangs.esp [Version 10.0EV-D]
++ bgBalancingEVOptionalMoreEyes.esp [Version 10]
++ bgBalancingEVOptionalFCOMAdditions.esp [Version 10.]
** FCOM_Archery.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53]
42 Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp [Version 01]
43 Bashed Patch, 0.esp

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:48 am

Are you using the V5 BAIN/OMOD archive that I linked to in http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1209624-problem-with-roberts-male-body-replacer-v4/page__p__18091369__fromsearch__1#entry18091369 topic?

» Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:31 pm

Are you using the V5 BAIN/OMOD archive that I linked to in http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1209624-problem-with-roberts-male-body-replacer-v4/page__p__18091369__fromsearch__1#entry18091369 topic?

Yep. In fact, before I made this topic I did some searching and it was that post that led me to that archive.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:26 am

I just tested with new game various races and I do see the same issues that you see... hadn't noticed as my character is female.

I will say that it looks like the clothing is compatible... but maybe not done well? For instance, the veins on the hands seem to stay Roberts when donning the sack cloth shirt, but that slight gap at the wrist appears.

I'm using RBP as well and it really is a shame about the Mazken... they don't look well at all!

Don't know of any solution, but I'm sure something exists. At least for the Mazken, etc... it's like the textures are just not applying to those races.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:12 am

You'll get that with vanilla clothing, as some (most) clothing have vanilla body parts included, and it swaps out RMB parts for it, leaving noticeable seams.

Did you install the RMB clothing that comes with the mod?

» Mon Dec 12, 2011 9:58 pm

I just tested with new game various races and I do see the same issues that you see... hadn't noticed as my character is female.

I will say that it looks like the clothing is compatible... but maybe not done well? For instance, the veins on the hands seem to stay Roberts when donning the sack cloth shirt, but that slight gap at the wrist appears.

I'm using RBP as well and it really is a shame about the Mazken... they don't look well at all!

Don't know of any solution, but I'm sure something exists. At least for the Mazken, etc... it's like the textures are just not applying to those races.

So I'm not insane. Excellent news!

I really do hope there's a solution, though. I'm extremely OCD when it comes to things like this.

You'll get that with vanilla clothing, as some (most) clothing have vanilla body parts included, and it swaps out RMB parts for it, leaving noticeable seams.

Did you install the RMB clothing that comes with the mod?

The archive earthling linked to includes the compatibility patches, but clearly they don't work as intended.

» Mon Dec 12, 2011 7:58 pm

I should have looked at your load order first. I don't even see malebodyreplacerv4.esp in there? It needs to be active, and merged in your bashed patch.

» Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:25 pm

I should have looked at your load order first. I don't even see malebodyreplacerv4.esp in there? It needs to be active, and merged in your bashed patch.

Odd... I could have sworn I merged it. I know I had it merged before and it didn't work, so I doubt this will fix it, but I'll definitely recreate my patch and post back. :shrug:

EDIT: Nope, no difference. I can't believe there's no working patch for such a popular mod...

» Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:48 pm

If you look in the "30 Clothes & Armor BASE" folder, the readme there has a disclaimer:

Known Issues or Bugs
====================
It's not perfect, I do know this, and there are some problems. This is mostly the reason why I'm making it a modder's resource. If you see a problem, feel free to fix it.

I think the wrist seem thing is one of those imperfections. The textures not applying to the Mazken seems like a RPB + Robert's issue though.

Perhaps this is relevant, from the RBP readme:

- Robert's Male body replacer: It's not a pure replacer, therefore you have to use Wrye Bash. Tag it with Body-M and load it before the Core file. Then it has to be included as part of the bashed patch. It still needs to be activated, but loaded before the core file.

Edit: that ^ just confirms Hanaisse's tip.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:27 am

Post your load order again? And what options are you checking in your bashed patch for it?

I'm not sure what you mean by compatibility patches. When I mentioned the RMB clothing I meant the Robert Clothes and Armor base archive, which is simply new meshes that you drop into your Data folder. There should also be an archive for SI clothing, and a 1st person fixes archive.

And make sure you are using BSA redirection.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:23 am

Do you not see any problems Hanaisse? Do you see Mazken with Robert's textures of any kind (dressed/undressed)? For me they have the meshes but very blurry, less quality than vanilla textures.

And yes, I confirm there are no "compatibility" patches for RPB in V5, just different replacers.

Here is my mod list:

Spoiler

Active Mod Files:
00 Oblivion.esm
01 All Natural Base.esm [Version 1.3]
02 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm [Version 4.5bSI]
03 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm [Version 4.5bSI]
04 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.73]
05 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34]
06 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3]
07 TamrielTravellers.esm [Version 1.39c]
08 FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9MB3]
09 Armamentarium.esm [Version 1.35]
0A Artifacts.esm [Version 1.1]
0B Progress.esm [Version 2.2]
0C HorseCombatMaster.esm
0D Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.3.5]
0E DLCShiveringIsles.esp
0F Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.2]
10 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp
11 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp
12 Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp
13 Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp
++ Francesco's Dark Seducer Weapons Patch.esp
++ FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9]
14 FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9]
15 All Natural.esp [Version 1.3]
16 All Natural - SI.esp [Version 1.3]
++ All Natural - MMM Patch.esp [Version 1.3]
17 Enhanced Water v2.0 HDMI.esp
++ Symphony of Violence.esp
18 MIS Low Wind.esp
19 All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 1.3]
1A WindowLightingSystem.esp
++ Item interchange - Extraction.esp [Version 0.78]
1B DropLitTorchOBSE.esp [Version 2.4]
1C YetAnotherHotkeyMod.esp
1D DLCHorseArmor.esp
1E DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.6]
1F DLCOrrery.esp
20 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]
21 DLCVileLair.esp
22 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.6]
** Lair_mobs.esp
23 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
24 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
** Mehrunes_mobs.esp
25 DLCSpellTomes.esp
++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]
** EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp
++ MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp
26 Adonnays Classical Weaponry.esp
27 Adonnays Elven Weaponry.esp
28 Morrigan Armor Set v1_0.esp
29 Thieves Arsenal.esp
++ Thieves_Arsenal_Patch_033010.esp
** Armamentium female.esp
2A DLCThievesDen.esp
2B DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9]
** Thievesden_mobs.esp
2C Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.73]
2D Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63]
2E Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
2F FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9]
30 Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp
++ FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp [Version 0.9.9]
31 Oblivion WarCry EV.esp [Version 1.09]
32 FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9MB5]
33 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34]
** OMOBS_SI.esp [Version 2.0]
34 OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp [Version 1.72]
35 Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
36 FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3]
++ FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp [Version 0.9.9beta2]
37 FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9]
38 FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_SpawnRatesStronger.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3]
39 Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ FCOM_SaferRoads.esp [Version 0.9.9]
3A Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
3B Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
3C Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
3D Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
3E Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3f]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot OOO.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ TamrielTravellerAdvscript.esp [Version 1.39c]
3F TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp [Version 1.39c]
++ TamrielTravellersItemsnpc.esp [Version 1.39c]
40 ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp [Version 1.39c]
++ ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions4MMM.esp [Version 1.39c]
++ FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp [Version 2.01]
++ ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp [Version 1.35]
** Fransfemale.esp
41 KDCircletsOOOOptimized - Loot Only.esp [Version 1.2]
42 Geomancy & Gem Dust OOO.esp
++ MMM-Cobl.esp [Version 1.73]
** EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4FCOM.esp
** EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer for OOO.esp
** EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4MMM.esp
43 Ivellon.esp [Version 1.8]
44 Artifacts.esp [Version 1.1]
** ArtifactsFemaleArmor.esp
++ Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp [Version 1.0]
45 Gift of Kynareth.esp
46 TheForgottenShields.esp
47 Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp
48 Woodcutters_Cabin_COBL.esp
49 WOTFH_1.3.esp
4A DLCFrostcrag.esp
4B DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
4C Knights.esp
4D Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.1]
** EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp
4E Mighty Umbra.esp
4F Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp
50 MannimarcoRevisited.esp
51 MannimarcoRevisitedOOO.esp [Version 0.1]
52 Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ FCOM_MightyUmbra.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_Knights.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3]
53 Lakeview2.esp
54 xuldarkforest.esp [Version 1.0.5]
55 xulStendarrValley.esp [Version 1.2.2]
56 xulTheHeath.esp
57 MMMMWL-TheHeath patch.esp
58 XulEntiusGorge.esp
59 xulFallenleafEverglade.esp [Version 1.3.1]
5A xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp [Version 1.2.1]
5B xulChorrolHinterland.esp [Version 1.2.2]
5C xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp [Version 1.6.4]
5D xulBravilBarrowfields.esp [Version 1.3.3]
5E xulLushWoodlands.esp [Version 1.3.1]
5F xulAncientYews.esp [Version 1.4.3]
60 xulAncientRedwoods.esp [Version 1.6]
61 xulCloudtopMountains.esp [Version 1.0.3]
62 xulArriusCreek.esp [Version 1.1.3]
63 xulPatch_AY_AC.esp [Version 1.1]
64 xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp [Version 1.3.3]
65 MMMMWL-RollingHills patch.esp
66 xulPantherRiver.esp
67 xulRiverEthe.esp [Version 1.0.2]
68 xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp [Version 1.1]
69 xulImperialIsle.esp [Version 1.6.7]
6A xulBlackwoodForest.esp [Version 1.1.0]
6B xulCheydinhalFalls.esp [Version 1.0.1]
6C GiftOfKynareth-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp
6D DungeonsOfIvellon-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp
6E xulAspenWood.esp [Version 1.0.2]
6F xulSkingradOutskirts.esp [Version 1.0.1]
70 xulSnowdale.esp [Version 1.0.2]
71 OOO-Snowdale Patch.esp
72 xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp [Version 1.12]
73 OOOCliffsofAnvilPatch.esp [Version 1.1]
74 MMMDungeons-CliffsOfAnvil patch.esp [Version 1.0]
75 xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp [Version 1.0]
76 Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp [Version 3.08]
77 Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]
++ Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0]
++ Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp [Version 3.0.0]
78 Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0]
79 Bag of Holding.esp [Version 1.5.0]
7A Automagic Bags.esp [Version 4.03]
7B EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp
7C Quest Award Leveller.esp
++ Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp
++ Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp
++ Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp
7D ProgressMBSP.esp [Version 2.0]
7E ProgressSBSP.esp [Version 1.0]
7F ProgressRBSP.esp [Version 1.0]
80 ProgressRacial.esp
81 ProgressArmorer.esp [Version 1.0]
82 All+5AttributeModifiers.esp
++ Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp [Version 0.78]
++ Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag.esp [Version 0.78]
83 bgBalancingEVCore.esp [Version 10.52EV-D]
++ EVE_KhajiitFix.esp
84 bgMagicEV.esp [Version 1.7EV]
++ bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp [Version 1.68EV]
85 bgMagicBonus.esp [Version 1.7EV]
++ bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp [Version 1.68EV]
86 bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp [Version 1.68EV]
87 SupremeMagicka.esp [Version 0.90b]
88 SM_ShiveringIsles.esp [Version 0.90]
++ SM_DLCSpellTome.esp [Version 0.90]
++ SM_OOO.esp [Version 0.90]
++ SM_MMM.esp [Version 0.90]
++ SM_COBL.esp [Version 0.90]
89 SM_EnchantStaff.esp [Version 0.90]
++ SM_Scrolls.esp [Version 0.90]
++ SM_SigilStone.esp [Version 0.90]
8A OBSE-Storms & Sound SI.esp
8B Deadlier Sneaking [Unofficial Lesser] 1.0.esp [Version 1.0]
8C attack and hide harder v2.1.esp
8D Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed block and 150% damage.esp
8E DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp
++ bgMagicEV_Conjuration_for_Supreme_Magicka.esp [Version 1.7.7]
++ bgBalancingEVOptionalFangs.esp [Version 10.0EV-D]
++ bgBalancingEVOptionalMoreEyes.esp [Version 10]
** bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversity, Beautification.esp [Version 10.0EV-D]
8F bgBalancingVanillaGMSTArmorPenalty.esp [Version 9.0UV-U]
90 bgBalancingEVLAMEAddition.esp [Version 10.51EV-D]
++ bgBalancingEVLAMEGlue.esp [Version 10.0EV-D1.62EV]
** bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversityLAME.esp [Version 10.5EV-D]
++ bgBalancingEVOptionalSeamReducerHighElfFix.esp [Version 10.0EV-D]
91 bgIntegrationEV.esp [Version 1.0]
92 Silverfish&bgIntegrationPatch.esp
** [GFX]_Initial_Glow-self.esp
93 Life Detected - OMOD.esp
** FCOM_Archery.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ SM_DeadlyReflex5.esp [Version 0.86]
++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53]
** All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp [Version 1.3]
94 Bashed Patch, 0.esp

» Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:45 pm

@earthling: I read the readme, but I didn't think there would be any "imperfections" as major as this. As for Bash tagging, RMB is tagged properly, and I've ran BOSS, obviously. It loads before bgBalancingEVCore.esp.

Post your load order again? And what options are you checking in your bashed patch for it?

Updated Load Order:

Spoiler

00 Oblivion.esm
01 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm [Version 4.5bSI]
02 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm [Version 4.5bSI]
03 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.73]
04 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34]
05 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3]
06 FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9MB3]
07 Armamentarium.esm [Version 1.35]
08 Artifacts.esm [Version 1.1]
09 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.0]
0A UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0]
0B Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
0C DLCShiveringIsles.esp
0D Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0]
0E Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp
0F Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp
10 Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp
11 Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp
++ FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9]
12 FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ Item interchange - Extraction.esp [Version 0.76]
13 DLCHorseArmor.esp
14 DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
15 DLCOrrery.esp
16 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.3]
17 DLCVileLair.esp
18 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
** Lair_mobs.esp
19 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
1A DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]
** Mehrunes_mobs.esp
1B DLCSpellTomes.esp
++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]
++ MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp
** Armamentium female.esp
1C DLCThievesDen.esp
1D DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
1E DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.4]
** Thievesden_mobs.esp
++ MMM_Runeskull_Rebalance_BETA2.esp [Version Beta]
1F Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.73]
20 Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63]
21 Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
22 FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9]
23 Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp
++ FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp [Version 0.9.9]
24 Oblivion WarCry EV.esp [Version 1.09]
25 FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9MB5]
26 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34]
++ OOO-Water_Weeds.esp [Version 1.33]
** OMOBS_SI.esp [Version 2.0]
++ ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp [Version 1.35]
27 ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp [Version 1.35]
28 OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp [Version 1.72]
++ FCOM_Cobl.esp [Version 0.9.9]
29 Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
2A FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3]
++ FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp [Version 0.9.9beta2]
2B FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9]
2C FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp [Version 0.9.9]
2D Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
2E Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
2F Mart's Monster Mod - Zombies for Body Meshes.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
30 Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
31 Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
32 Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
33 Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
34 Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3f]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot G&GD.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp [Version 0.9.9]
** FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp [Version 0.9.9]
35 FCOM_MoreRandomSpawns.esp [Version 0.9.9]
36 FCOM_MoreRandomItems.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp [Version 2.01]
++ ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp [Version 1.35]
** Fransfemale.esp
37 OOO-WaterFish.esp [Version 1.34]
++ MMM-Cobl.esp [Version 1.73]
** EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4FCOM.esp
38 Artifacts.esp [Version 1.1]
** ArtifactsFemaleArmor.esp
++ Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp [Version 1.0]
39 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
3A DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]
** Battlehorn_mobs.esp
3B DLCFrostcrag.esp
3C DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]
3D Knights.esp
3E Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9]
** EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp
** DLC_MOBS.esp
++ FCOM_Knights.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3]
3F Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp [Version 3.08]
40 EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp
41 bgBalancingEVCore.esp [Version 10.52EV-D]
++ EVE_KhajiitFix.esp
42 bgBalancingOptionalLessHealth.esp [Version 10.0UV-U]
++ bgBalancingEVOptionalClasses.esp [Version 9.0EV-U]
++ bgBalancingEVOptionalFangs.esp [Version 10.0EV-D]
++ bgBalancingEVOptionalMoreEyes.esp [Version 10]
++ bgBalancingEVOptionalFCOMAdditions.esp [Version 10.]
** FCOM_Archery.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53]
43 Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp [Version 01]
44 Bashed Patch, 0.esp

http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac239/powermapler/RMBBashedPatchSettings.png

All available options are checked within those categories, aside from OOO in certain places as advised in the FCOM thread.

By compatibility patches I mean clothing replacers for vanilla, SI, OOO, MMM, and Frans. Vanilla and SI are included in the archive earthling linked to. OBMM is handling my archive invalidation, and it's set for BSA redirection.

» Mon Dec 12, 2011 7:09 pm

@earthling; No, I don't see the exaggerated problems like that, but then I'm not running an FCOM setup with all the other armor replacers.

@powermapler; You've done everything right, sorry I can't offer a better solution except to say play the game, change out of that awful cloth shirt as soon as you can, and those issues shouldn't be so noticeable in proper armor.

» Mon Dec 12, 2011 4:10 pm

I just checked this out in game and sure enough, from behind, there is a slight mis-match. I've never noticed this before, presumably because I play in first person exclusively.

As for the Mazken texture, Slof's Better Bodies (not Better Beasts) has improved textures for all the vanilla races, as well as eyelashes and Better Beast type improvements.

She also made available comprehensive photoshop files for creating your own - everything is on layers so you can mix and match even if you have no artistic skill.

» Mon Dec 12, 2011 9:34 pm

I just checked this out in game and sure enough, from behind, there is a slight mis-match. I've never noticed this before, presumably because I play in first person exclusively.

As for the Mazken texture, Slof's Better Bodies (not Better Beasts) has improved textures for all the vanilla races, as well as eyelashes and Better Beast type improvements.

She also made available comprehensive photoshop files for creating your own - everything is on layers so you can mix and match even if you have no artistic skill.

But isn't BB another body replacer altogether? Is there no way to make the Mazken/Aureal compatible with Roberts?

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:07 am

No, it isn't. It's just a collection of better skin textures, plus Better Beasts assets merged into, and it actually "requires" both Robert's Male and Female body mods to work.

I don't know if there's proper texture support for Mazken and Robert's Male in RBP, will have to take a closer look next time I get to play for a while again, but so far I didn't encounter any issues.

Those gaps between the hands and arms are simply the gaps between Robert's Male V5 and Robert's Male V4 body meshes. So far there's only 1 real clothing and armor replacer for V5 I know of, this average one.
Even the packages included in the V5 beta download were made for and thus include Robert's V4 meshes, maybe some even yet older versions. They will never align 100% right, as the new V5 is just too different at some of the connection lines.

We need proper stock replacers for V5, then those gaps will be a thing of the past.