Body Mod Issues : IV

» Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:41 pm

I've been having some problems with EVE HGEC along with Robert's Male Body mod, with the hands, and in the Female Khajiit's case, the whole body.

The first problem, is that there's something going on with the hand when I equip the wrist irons you start with. The hand's change depending on whether or not the irons are equipped, and there are very large seems. The hands change the most on the females, but on the males the seems are actual gaps between the hand and the arm. http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac239/powermapler/Cuff1.jpg http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac239/powermapler/Cuff2.jpg

The second and most obvious problem is the female Khajiit. I really don't know what to make of it. I'm using the foot patch that comes with EVE. That didn't work, so I edited the EVE-FCOM esp myself to redirect the female Khajiit's feet textures to the female file. That didn't work either. Right now I only have my Bashed Patch set to Merge Patches and Leveled Lists, but I've tried both Import Graphics and Race Records, and neither worked. http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac239/powermapler/KF1.jpg http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac239/powermapler/KF2.jpg

My Load Order:

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Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]02  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]03  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]04  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]05  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]06  VASE - core.esm07  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]08  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]09  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]0A  Artifacts.esm  [Version 1.1]0B  Better Cities Resources.esm  [Version 4.9.0]0C  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.0]0D  UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0]0E  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp0F  DLCShiveringIsles.esp10  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]11  Shivering OOO.esp12  Better Cities .esp13  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp14  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp15  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp16  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp17  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]18  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]19  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]1A  Ayleid Loot EXtension.esp1B  Ayleid Loot EXtension - OOO Dungeons.esp1C  Book Jackets Oblivion.esp1D  ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.76]1E  Spell Delete.esp1F  DLCHorseArmor.esp20  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]21  DLCOrrery.esp22  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]23  DLCVileLair.esp24  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]25  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp26  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]27  DLCSpellTomes.esp28  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]29  MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp2A  XiaNewAmuletsV1.esp2B  Armamentium female.esp2C  DLCThievesDen.esp2D  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]2E  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]2F  KDCircletsOOOOptimized - NPC Equip.esp  [Version 1.2]30  FCOM_KDCircletsOOOOptimizedNPCEquip.esp  [Version 0.9.9]31  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]32  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]33  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp34  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]35  Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp36  FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp  [Version 0.9.9]37  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.09]38  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB3]39  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]3A  OOO-Water_Weeds.esp  [Version 1.33]3B  OOO_XiaNewAmulets Addon.esp  [Version 0.5]3C  OMOBS.esp  [Version 1.0]3D  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 1.0]3E  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]3F  FCOM_Cobl.esp  [Version 0.9.9]40  Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]41  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]42  FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp  [Version 0.9.9beta2]43  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]44  FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp  [Version 0.9.9]45  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]46  Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]47  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]48  Mart's Monster Mod - Zombies for Body Meshes.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]49  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]4A  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]4B  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]4C  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]4D  VASE - Cyrodiil for MMM.esp4E  VASE - Vanilla SI.esp4F  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]50  TamrielTravellerAdvscript.esp  [Version 1.39c]51  TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp  [Version 1.39c]52  TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp  [Version 1.39c]53  ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp  [Version 1.39c]54  ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions4MMM.esp  [Version 1.39c]55  FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp  [Version 0.9.9]56  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]57  FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]58  FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp  [Version 0.9.9]59  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]5A  ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp  [Version 2.01]5B  ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp  [Version 1.35]5C  Fransfemale.esp5D  OOO-WaterFish.esp  [Version 1.34]5E  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.69]5F  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4FCOM.esp60  Artifacts.esp  [Version 1.1]61  ArtifactsFemaleArmor.esp62  VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp63  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp64  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]65  DLCFrostcrag.esp66  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]67  Knights.esp68  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]69  EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp6A  RTT.esp6B  Mighty Umbra.esp6C  Blood&Mud.esp6D  Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp6E  The Mystery of the Dulan cult.esp6F  MannimarcoRevisited.esp70  MannimarcoRevisitedOOO.esp  [Version 0.1]71  FCOM_MightyUmbra.esp  [Version 0.9.9]72  FCOM_Blood&Mud.esp  [Version 0.9.9]73  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]74  FCOM_DulanCult.esp  [Version 0.9.9]75  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]76  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]77  Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp  [Version 3.0.0]78  Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 3.0.0]79  EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp7A  Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp  [Version 3.08]7B  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.90b]7C  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 0.90]7D  SM_DLCSpellTome.esp  [Version 0.90]7E  SM_OOO.esp  [Version 0.90]7F  SM_MMM.esp  [Version 0.90]80  SM_COBL.esp  [Version 0.90]81  SM_EnchantStaff.esp  [Version 0.90]82  SM_Scrolls.esp  [Version 0.90]83  SM_SigilStone.esp  [Version 0.90]84  MidasSpells.esp++  Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp  [Version 0.76]++  Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag.esp  [Version 0.78]85  EVE_KhajiitFix.esp86  Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]87  TamrielTravellers Cosmetics Cobl or RBP.esp88  bgMagicEV.esp  [Version 1.7EV]89  bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp  [Version 1.68EV]8A  bgMagicEVStartspells.esp  [Version 1.68EV]8B  bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp  [Version 1.68EV]8C  bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp  [Version 1.68EV]8D  Better Cities Full - B&M Edition.esp  [Version 4.9.0]8E  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp  [Version 4.7.0]8F  Better Cities - Ruined Tail's Tale.esp  [Version 4.8.0]90  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp  [Version 4.8.4]91  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp  [Version 4.8.1]92  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp  [Version 4.8.1]93  Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp  [Version 4.7.0]94  Better Cities Full - B&M Edition FPS Patch.esp  [Version 4.9.0]95  Better Imperial City.esp  [Version 4.9.0]96  Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp  [Version 4.8.1]97  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 2.1]98  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Imperial Isle.esp  [Version 4.8.1]99  bgMagicEVShader.esp  [Version 1.7EV]9A  bgMagicShaderLifeDetect.esp  [Version 1.68]9B  bgMagicLightningbolt.esp9C  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 0.9.9]9D  MassA.I-50.esp9E  Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp  [Version 01]9F  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

It may look a little strange at the moment, as I'm in the middle of an FCOM installation. But there might be something obvious in there that I'm missing. Any help would be greatly appreciated, as I've been trying to fix this for two days to no avail.

EDIT: Updated LO, didn't have all mods activated before.

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:05 am

The way I have it working is this:

Install Robet Male Body BAIN
Install Eve Stock replacer choosing the textures and equipment replacers
Install OOO, MMM, Frans EVE replacers
Install Body seam reducer
Install HGEC 2048 face textures
Install HGEC 2048 body textures

This works for me. You pretty much have everything I do in a game I am building and testing tonight. If no archive invalidation issue, try to reinstall the EVE files again.

I assume you have BSA Redirection turned on in BAIN?

Hope this helps.

» Tue Mar 08, 2011 11:21 pm

The way I have it working is this:

Install Robet Male Body BAIN
Install Eve Stock replacer choosing the textures and equipment replacers
Install OOO, MMM, Frans EVE replacers
Install Body seam reducer
Install HGEC 2048 face textures
Install HGEC 2048 body textures

This works for me. You pretty much have everything I do in a game I am building and testing tonight. If no archive invalidation issue, try to reinstall the EVE files again.

I assume you have BSA Redirection turned on in BAIN?

Hope this helps.

Yep, I've done all that, except I use OBMM and use higher resolution body textures.

I've tried installing the EVE files multiple times, but I suppose I'll try again. But I don't think that will fix the hand separation problems, as those affect men as well.

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 2:34 am

Yep, I've done all that, except I use OBMM and use higher resolution body textures.

I've tried installing the EVE files multiple times, but I suppose I'll try again. But I don't think that will fix the hand separation problems, as those affect men as well.

Did you install any other body related mods? I never ran into it but I use BAIN. But OBMM should work too I would assume. If you uninstall the body mods does it all go back to normal?

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 1:27 am

This is killing me....

Even if I disable the mod in OBMM, they still stay 'active,' except they're low resolution versions of the mod. I really have no idea. I've tried every possible fix short of reinstalling. And no, I'm not using any other mods. I was using COBL races, but I got rid of that.

EDIT: Okay, something is seriously [censored] up. I just reset everything to default in the Oblivion launcher, and I'm still getting these low resolution versions of the mods! How is this even possible?!

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 1:44 am

29 MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp

Try rebuilding your bashed patch. This should be merged, not active. Check it under Merge patches and also make sure it's checked under Race records.
I don't know about EVE, but it could be the same.

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:49 am

Try rebuilding your bashed patch. This should be merged, not active. Check it under Merge patches and also make sure it's checked under Race records.
I don't know about EVE, but it could be the same.

I'm very new to Wrye Bash, and I'm not sure how to do that.

Neither EVE nor RMB appear in Merge Patches or Race Records.

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 4:25 am

Hmm, that would be very odd. What version of Bash are you using? When's the last time you ran BOSS on your load order?
When you highlight that RMB mod in Bash, does it say Body-M in the Bash tag box in the lower right corner?

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:56 am

Hmm, that would be very odd. What version of Bash are you using? When's the last time you ran BOSS on your load order?
When you highlight that RMB mod in Bash, does it say Body-M in the Bash tag box in the lower right corner?

Yes, it says Body-M. I run BOSS all the time. Last time I ran it was right before I started typing this.

And I'm using the latest version of Wrye Bash.

EDIT: And if it matters, EVE is marked as Graphics and NoMerge.

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 6:27 am

Well, sorry, I don't know what to tell you. If they are tagged then they should be in those categories of your bashed patch for you to check. Not having the Graphics is probably why you're seeing the problems you mention. Hopefully someone else has an idea.

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:00 am

Well, the mods are now appearing with their proper Bash tags. However, rebuilt the patch with these settings and they still don't work. :cry:

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 3:39 am

Okay....I think it's working now....

I launched the game after rebuilding the patch for probably the 20th time today, and everything is working properly. Honestly, I'm afraid to launch the game again. On this note I can finally sleep. I'll deal with further [censored] in the morning.

Thanks for the help. I wouldn't have thought the patch would have helped with this if you hadn't come along, Hanaisse.

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 7:29 am

Is RMB properly merged (with ++ signs not a check mark)?
Let's go back to the beginning. What "doesn't work" ?

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:33 am

Is RMB properly merged (with ++ signs not a check mark)?
Let's go back to the beginning. What "doesn't work" ?

It's working now. New load order:

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Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]02  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]03  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]04  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]05  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]06  VASE - core.esm07  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]08  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]09  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]0A  Artifacts.esm  [Version 1.1]0B  Better Cities Resources.esm  [Version 4.9.0]0C  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.0]0D  UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0]0E  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp0F  DLCShiveringIsles.esp10  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]++  Shivering OOO.esp11  Better Cities .esp12  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp13  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp14  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp15  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]16  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]17  Ayleid Loot EXtension.esp18  Ayleid Loot EXtension - OOO Dungeons.esp19  Book Jackets Oblivion.esp1A  ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.76]1B  Spell Delete.esp1C  DLCHorseArmor.esp1D  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]1E  DLCOrrery.esp1F  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]20  DLCVileLair.esp21  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]22  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp23  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]24  DLCSpellTomes.esp++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]++  MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp**  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp25  XiaNewAmuletsV1.esp26  Armamentium female.esp27  DLCThievesDen.esp28  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]29  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]2A  KDCircletsOOOOptimized - NPC Equip.esp  [Version 1.2]++  FCOM_KDCircletsOOOOptimizedNPCEquip.esp  [Version 0.9.9]2B  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]2C  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]2D  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp2E  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]2F  Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp++  FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp  [Version 0.9.9]30  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.09]31  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB3]32  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]++  OOO-Water_Weeds.esp  [Version 1.33]++  OOO_XiaNewAmulets Addon.esp  [Version 0.5]33  OMOBS.esp  [Version 1.0]34  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 1.0]35  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]++  FCOM_Cobl.esp  [Version 0.9.9]36  Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]37  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]++  FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp  [Version 0.9.9beta2]38  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]39  FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp  [Version 0.9.9]3A  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3B  Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3C  Mart's Monster Mod - Zombies for Body Meshes.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3D  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3E  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3F  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]40  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  VASE - Cyrodiil for MMM.esp++  VASE - Vanilla SI.esp++  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  TamrielTravellerAdvscript.esp  [Version 1.39c]41  TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp  [Version 1.39c]42  TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp  [Version 1.39c]43  ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions4MMM.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp  [Version 2.01]++  ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp  [Version 1.35]44  Fransfemale.esp45  OOO-WaterFish.esp  [Version 1.34]++  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.69]46  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4FCOM.esp47  Artifacts.esp  [Version 1.1]48  ArtifactsFemaleArmor.esp49  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp4A  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]4B  DLCFrostcrag.esp4C  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]4D  Knights.esp4E  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]4F  EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp50  RTT.esp51  Mighty Umbra.esp52  Blood&Mud.esp53  Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp54  The Mystery of the Dulan cult.esp55  MannimarcoRevisited.esp56  MannimarcoRevisitedOOO.esp  [Version 0.1]++  FCOM_MightyUmbra.esp  [Version 0.9.9]57  FCOM_Blood&Mud.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]58  FCOM_DulanCult.esp  [Version 0.9.9]59  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]5A  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]5B  xulTheHeath.esp5C  XulEntiusGorge.esp5D  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]5E  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.1]5F  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]60  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.4]61  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.2]62  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3.1]63  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.3]64  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]65  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]66  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.3]67  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]68  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.3]69  xulPantherRiver.esp6A  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]6B  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.1]6C  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.6]6D  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.1.0]6E  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]6F  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.2]70  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp  [Version 1.0.1]71  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0.2]72  xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp73  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp  [Version 3.0.0]74  Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 3.0.0]75  EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp76  Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp  [Version 3.08]77  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.90b]78  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 0.90]++  SM_DLCSpellTome.esp  [Version 0.90]++  SM_OOO.esp  [Version 0.90]++  SM_MMM.esp  [Version 0.90]++  SM_COBL.esp  [Version 0.90]79  SM_EnchantStaff.esp  [Version 0.90]++  SM_Scrolls.esp  [Version 0.90]++  SM_SigilStone.esp  [Version 0.90]7A  MidasSpells.esp++  Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp  [Version 0.76]++  Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag.esp  [Version 0.78]++  EVE_KhajiitFix.esp++  Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]7B  bgMagicEV.esp  [Version 1.7EV]++  bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp  [Version 1.68EV]++  bgMagicEVStartspells.esp  [Version 1.68EV]++  bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp  [Version 1.68EV]7C  bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp  [Version 1.68EV]7D  Better Cities Full - B&M Edition.esp  [Version 4.9.0]7E  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp  [Version 4.7.0]7F  Better Cities - Ruined Tail's Tale.esp  [Version 4.8.0]80  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp  [Version 4.8.4]81  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp  [Version 4.8.1]82  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp  [Version 4.8.1]83  Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp  [Version 4.7.0]84  Better Cities Full - B&M Edition FPS Patch.esp  [Version 4.9.0]85  Better Imperial City.esp  [Version 4.9.0]86  Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp  [Version 4.8.1]87  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 2.1]88  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Imperial Isle.esp  [Version 4.8.1]89  bgMagicEVShader.esp  [Version 1.7EV]++  bgMagicShaderLifeDetect.esp  [Version 1.68]8A  bgMagicLightningbolt.esp8B  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 0.9.9]8C  MassA.I-50.esp8D  Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp  [Version 01]8E  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 4:15 am

Ninja'd on my reply, lol.

Good news, glad it's sorted.

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:18 am

Great news. What an experience, huh? Seriously look at BAIN for these installs. May save you hassles in the future.

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:46 am

And don't go crazy over mods not becoming undone when you deactivate them. Any "replacer"-type mods, such as body mods, replaced resource files in your folders or made it so the game uses theirs instead of its own when you installed them. This will not change when you deactivate the plugin in the launcher. The only thing which might happen then would be changed texture pathes reverted back to normal and thus wrong textures being used on the meshes. And always make sure you recompile the bashed patch after you activated or deactivated a plugin, else it might make it stay activated no matter what you do to itself.

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:03 am

And don't go crazy over mods not becoming undone when you deactivate them. Any "replacer"-type mods, such as body mods, replaced resource files in your folders or made it so the game uses theirs instead of its own when you installed them. This will not change when you deactivate the plugin in the launcher. The only thing which might happen then would be changed texture pathes reverted back to normal and thus wrong textures being used on the meshes. And always make sure you recompile the bashed patch after you activated or deactivated a plugin, else it might make it stay activated no matter what you do to itself.

Yep. I recreate the Bashed Patch every time I install/uninstall a major mod. And I didn't just uncheck the .esp. I disabled the mod in OBMM. I assumed that would disable the mod itself.

Oh, something I didn't mention before. I didn't actually have the hand gap problem sorted until last night. It was so minor I didn't want to bother you guys more.

I ended up needing to downgrade to RMB v4, and now everything works perfectly. Instead of the beta for v5. Looks like it has bugs. Honestly, I prefer the look of v4 anyway.

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 6:13 am

Yep. I recreate the Bashed Patch every time I install/uninstall a major mod. And I didn't just uncheck the .esp. I disabled the mod in OBMM. I assumed that would disable the mod itself.

Oh, something I didn't mention before. I didn't actually have the hand gap problem sorted until last night. It was so minor I didn't want to bother you guys more.

I ended up needing to downgrade to RMB v4, and now everything works perfectly. Instead of the beta for v5. Looks like it has bugs. Honestly, I prefer the look of v4 anyway.

From what I could tell, the Roberts v5 version I have (the OMOD BAIN version) still uses the v4 esp (at least that is the name of the esp).

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:00 am

From what I could tell, the Roberts v5 version I have (the OMOD BAIN version) still uses the v4 esp (at least that is the name of the esp).

The esp is named the same, but it uses slightly different textures. For example, v4 has arm hair, while v5 does not.

EDIT: Strange...There still seems to be a slight problem with the wrists on the females. Very minor, but I'm going to ask about it in the official thread.

EDIT2: Nevermind, fixed it.

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 3:07 am

It would help you get over your struggle if you shared HOW you fixed it

So if you would share your install order of the body mods and any special things you did to get it working I would appreciate it. I seem to have body issues on my new install now with the textures not looking right.

Thaks

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 4:57 am

It would help you get over your struggle if you shared HOW you fixed it

So if you would share your install order of the body mods and any special things you did to get it working I would appreciate it. I seem to have body issues on my new install now with the textures not looking right.

Thaks

I've been following http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1119325-50steps-to-stable-fcom/page__p__16452602&#entry16452602, but I ran into some problems when it came down to installing the body mods. I installed EVE according to his guide, along with the high rez textures and seamless mod, and compatibility for FCOM and Armamentarium/Artifacts. See the instructions at the bottom of the OP http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1064803-relz-evehgec-eyecandy-variants-for-stock-and-mods-relz/

Then I installed Robert's Male Body v5 beta, and the comptability patches for OOO, MMM, and Fran's, along with Armamentarim/Artifacts.

However, I found none of these body mods worked with COBL races. I may have done something wrong, but they just wouldn't work. I gave up and uninstalled COBL races, but I realized I was still having problem with the vanilla races. The men's hands were disconected from their bodies, and the female's hands would change whenever you take the iron cuffs on or off. And, of course, there was my female Khajiit. (See screenshots in OP.)

Now, I had created my Bashed patch at this time, but it still didn't fix it, as the Robert's and EVE's esps weren't registering their proper tags. I don't know what I did, but eventually they did, I recreated my bashed patch, and that fixed my female Khajiit problem. Now it was just the hands on both sixes.

I fixed the male issue by simply downgrading to Robert's Male Body v4. Simple. (You'll need to reinstall the compatibility patches for your overhauls.)

I fixed the female issue by reinstalling all EVE components. I'm not sure what did it, but I think I got a corrupted EVE-FCOM esp the first time around. Still, just to be safe, I reinstalled every EVE component. After all this, I recreated my Bashed Patch (make sure you have the latest version of Wrye Bash, of course) and ran BOSS, obviously. And that's that.

That was a little convoluted as that's just about everything that's happened over the past few days, but hopefully you'll be able to extract some help from there,

In short: Use Robert's v4, NOT VERSION 5. And build your Bashed Patch properly.

» Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:16 pm

That's just because there's only 1 real Stock items Replacer for Robert's V5 I know of. I think it was something for his "average" body type and I don't think it covered any overhaul's items, yet.
The meshes changed a little from V4 to V5, most noticably around the wrists and such. Most Stock Replacers (like the ones included in the V5 beta release) are still for V4 meshes, thus they won't align perfectly, yet.

Not using Stock Replacers will of course just worsen the effect. A fact many users seem to be unaware of, coming around complaining about why clothes have gaps and blaming it on the body mods.
A body mod is helpless while you're wearing any item. There's a specific body inside it, no matter which body mod you're using, and your body mod's textures might not be working on it even.

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 2:26 am

Thanks Powermapler, appreciate the information. Now let me see if I can get my stuff fixed

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 1:11 am

That's just because there's only 1 real Stock items Replacer for Robert's V5 I know of. I think it was something for his "average" body type and I don't think it covered any overhaul's items, yet.
The meshes changed a little from V4 to V5, most noticably around the wrists and such. Most Stock Replacers (like the ones included in the V5 beta release) are still for V4 meshes, thus they won't align perfectly, yet.

Not using Stock Replacers will of course just worsen the effect. A fact many users seem to be unaware of, coming around complaining about why clothes have gaps and blaming it on the body mods.
A body mod is helpless while you're wearing any item. There's a specific body inside it, no matter which body mod you're using, and your body mod's textures might not be working on it even.

I understand that the body won't fit perfectly into clothing without compatibility patches. But it wasn't a gap in the clothing. Wearing any shirt (obviously only noticeable when short-sleeved) would cause the hands to separate from the wrist. It wasn't a gap in the clothing but in the body.