Hello there, fellow forum dwellers.

I'm wondering on the level of customization we are going to get this time around, regarding body type/height/weight.

I would really like to see different heights and body types on NPC's too, of course.

I guess you could break up this issue in two questions:

-Do we have any information regarding body type/height/weight customization?

-Is this feature something important for you?

I honestly suspect either set bodytypes or something similar to Skyrim slider at the most, to minimize risk of weird texture stretching and items clipping.

We did have a slider for Weight in Skyrim, and height was governed by race. Without any races this time around... is everyone in Boston exactly the same height then?

Hopefully they have a height slider aswell, but within limits so it fits animations and don't cause as mentioned above weirds stretching etc. Wasn't there a body option in the character creator in the E3 demo?

Which pretty much went from "Play as a body builder - Play as the Hulk."

Height and weight sliders are something I want. If I'm going to be stuck listening to that guy's voice, the least Bethesda could do is let me make it come out of a rotund dwarf with an afro in a dress.

Nope.

Eh. It's nice to have it, but it's not a must-have.

As with the poster higher up, I don't expect much more than Skyrim's version of body customization. If only because of how armor & clothing models have worked in all their previous games.

(People did come up with fancy body & armor adjustment mods for Skyrim like BodySlide, but that still just modified the the basic mesh files - in-game, the armor & bodies were still just using those files as the game normally did - there was a "0 size" mesh and a "100 size" mesh for everything, and it just interpolated between the two for value between 0 and 100. Kind of hard to add additional dimensions to that. Of course, they've tweaked the engine again as they do between games, so we'll see. )

I would like to have them but Bethesda is being a scrooge with their intel.

The demo we have seen did not indicate if these features will or will not be in the vanilla game (so answer is, "we do not know yet").

The feature would be nice, but is not going to influence my purchase of the game one way or another.

It's definitely something that I want to have, as I want to make my character very tall and buff to suit his tankiness.

. If you pause the trailer at the scene where the crowd is gathering around the gate to the vault.. You will see a lady in a yellow top and floral dress in the foreground who is obviously much more rotund than any of the other ladies in that scene. However, that really is the only thing I've seen to even indicate that weight might be one of the adjustments. Here.. I took a screen shot. http://i.imgur.com/HPOYWP6.png

As long as it isn't anything as Nightmare Fuel-Ish as Ark: Survival Evolved's Character creation. I think it would suit the game.

Two things that might be a concern would be Armour clipping for Bigger/smaller builds, as well as the Camera placement when it comes to height.

I hope changing scale of things in Fo4 will change the camera with it, But Skyrim didn't address that issue so I am doubtful.

You can sculpt the face so why not the body as well?

As for height I doubt it.

Honestly, I would consider height to be easier/more possible than body sculpting. Height can be done with a simple scale factor (although that wouldn't let you make a skinny-beanpole basketball player type, just an overall bigger character). Body, on the other hand - all the armor has to follow those tweaks as well, which complicates things a bit.

...yeah, I thought I'd remembered right. You could change a character's scale using http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Console_Command_Tutorial#Player.SetScale_.23 (and probably the other games as well).

I would like to play a petite lady that KILLS EVERYTHING but I'd be fine without it too.

You can in all the recent beth Games; Fallout 3 and NV, Skyrim, Oblivion. The players view doesn't change from it's original placement though. Because it doesn't scale with it, it gets pretty jarring if you go too big or too small

I'm really hoping for at least a Skyrim style weight slider and a height slider. I liked how in New Vegas you could come across folks with different statures, like Sunny Smiles on the short extreme and some of those legion guys on the tall extreme.

I'm afraid not.

Of course not, but that could be said of almost any feature right?

Exactly my point.

Great! This seems like the only evidence, so far, that at least NPC's will have different weights. Not sure if male/female heights are fixed... they do seem quite similar, but is hard to tell from that image.

Take a look at this screen taken by vyvexthorne : http://i.imgur.com/HPOYWP6.png

That lady in the front seems to be bigger than the rest right?

Yes... or a small & sneaky guy, or a tall and thin nerd, or a hand-to-hand tower of muscle, or as yourself, or, or...

Yes, you can do all of those and simply ignore height/weight, but with cinematic conversations, having your PC be as believable as possible seems like an important thing to me.

Take in count you are selecting things like strenght, endurance and agility, that are at least partially related to body type. A 10 Strenght, 10 Endurance hand-to-hand beast should look the part, in my opinion.

Thanks to everyone for sharing by the way!

Actually, there definitely was. At the E3 demo, there was a button for "Body" at the bottom of the screen during the facegen portion. They never explored it, but they wouldn't have a "Body" button that didn't do anything.

As for stats governing appearance, I'm pretty much against that. Not only do I really like to make mold-breaker characters (so yeah, a petite lady with the strength and constitution of an ox), but I also don't want to have to worry about my stats changing my character's appearance. Especially in a game where our attributes can all grow to 10 as we level up. If I wanted to make my character's appearance match up with their SPECIAL stats (how would you make a character look lucky, perceptive, or intelligent anway?), I'd just design the character that way myself.

I sand corrected, great news then!

Me too, I'm not proposing a Fable-esque sistem, at all. I do want to be able to create, if I feel like it, characters that look the part.

Yes it's important to me coz i'll be roleplaying myself

i hope i can choose a 6'4 220 body for max imershun.

no e-brag


ok kinda

I would love a morph system like they have for the face. Which is similar to the one in Sims 4. So I can play a really curvy female char, I love rocking that behind, those big briasts, and the wide hips with thick legs. But they haven't showed anything, which is most likely because there's nothing to show other than what we have in Skyrim, simple slider and that's it. We have seen some female characters having a little more weight to them, but again this is just an example of what you can do with a single body slider.

I think we're gonna have to wait for the first body mods if we want more than just two meshes that we slide between in char creation. Skyrim has some really gorgeous ones, and external program with lots of sliders. :3

I do hope I'm wrong, I hate having to update all vanilla clothing to fit another body shape.

Oh, the thread looks familiar.

http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1530848-body-type/

To my opinion, yes i would be happy to have a body morph option, similar to the options for the face. Many online games already have shown, that this works nice. Yes, Sims 4 aswell.

To the body button, yes it was there:

http://www11.pic-upload.de/04.09.15/sp7t7jcngi.jpg

I aswell have written my opinion and concerns in the other thread. Clothing morphing is possible and works on many games already. But the engine has to support it.

Possibles i see the game could have:

1. No high and body slider at all, aswell no other options.

This is highly doubtful, because we have seen the button for body. So something is there.

2. High and Weight options.

What i fear, would be the case.

3. Different body models you can chose form.

This would open the option, to create bodies with the creation kit and add them to the game. Ingame sliders wouldn't be nessesary and that the engine supports different bodies has been shown already in Skyrim.

4. Body morpher in character creation ingame and for NPCs inside the (Garden of Eden) Creation Kit.

What i hope is in.

Question is, if the engine supports this. But there is a mod, who actually enabled character modification inside the game, not only like CBBEs outside the game. (Enhanced Character Edit):

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/12951/?

So with the right mesh, the engine seems to support it. Other question is, if this works with the NPCs and clothings aswell. Would be nice to give the npcs different body styles aswell.

Same I'm 6'5 and I would love to able to make someone as tall as me.

https://cdn1.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/Bacn_hT8fcqokcvE-yD8ZdYx0OY=/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/3752902/fallout-4-fenway-park_1920.0.jpg

Look at the guy at the bottom left holding the bat, he looks to be slightly larger than some of the other npcs. Not by much but enough to make him look a bit fat. Then again it could be his clothes.

I reckon you can edit your body to a minor extent, within the norms of an 'average' person.

....sure you are