On Boethiah's Summoning Day : The Elder Scrolls Series Discussion

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 7:13 am

Am I interpreting this right, in that the daedra of the current kalpa (Azura, Peryite, Dagon, etc. etc.) will become the Aedra of the next?

It would seem that way.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 3:07 pm

Will we ever see the new cycle?

I mean having the world destroyed and reborn would kinda kill off potential games set in the, as of yet, unused provinces which would kinda piss off the fans.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 5:37 pm

It would seem that way.

Can it be surmised who/what becomes the new Daedra, and what happens to the old Aedra?

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 11:04 am

Looks like Skyrim will answer that question, and by the looks of it the Kapla does not end this time.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:29 pm

The whole kapla ending thing is a cool idea and everything but

-As I pointed out before there's LOTS of places in Tamrial we have yet to go to
-By the time they get done with all the remaining provinces changing it into a new world would confuse a lot of the "not as hardcoe" fans. If azura ever became a adrea I bet a lot of people would be like "wut?"

The world changing thing would have to be in like ES 10 and do you think they will ever get that far?

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 9:28 pm

The whole kapla ending thing is a cool idea and everything but

-As I pointed out before there's LOTS of places in Tamrial we have yet to go to
-By the time they get done with all the remaining provinces changing it into a new world would confuse a lot of the "not as hardcoe" fans. If azura ever became a adrea I bet a lot of people would be like "wut?"

Not to mention everyone would cry if Skyrim ends with Alduin eating everything. You wouldn't be able to play after, aside from it being a rather disappointing story.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:06 pm

They could go down a Mayan like road where "the end of the world" is more like "the end of the current cycle".

The new Kapla could have the world be the same, with the races being similar. A more metaphorical end of everything then a literal everything gets kablooied.

Though no matter what happens a G-Man will be there to oversee it.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 2:31 pm

Anybody wants to guess towards the authors?

The pattern is Xal-Gosleigh, but I'm not sure about the authors, or author.

http://www.imperial-library.info/content/xal-gosleigh-letters

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:53 pm

I'm not sure if it's two authors, or one author playing two parts. Whoever it is, he/she/they are familiar with the more Kirkbridian aspects of the lore. This suggests MK is a part (or the whole) of it. I don't know how closely Ted Peterson is connected with TES at the moment, but he's done stuff like this with MK before (Xal-Gosleigh). On the other hand, it would be a nice surprise to learn that someone currently working at Beth dug deep enough into the lore to come up with this.

Aside from that, I really want to know what happens when they (the characters) meet!

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 6:29 pm

Will we ever see the new cycle?

I mean having the world destroyed and reborn would kinda kill off potential games set in the, as of yet, unused provinces which would kinda piss off the fans.

Chimere seems convinced we don't have to see the next kalpa, perhaps at all. His opinion is sort of confusing, at the beginning I can't tell whether he wants to be retaken by Dagon or not.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 11:14 am

I'm not sure if it's two authors, or one author playing two parts. Whoever it is, he/she/they are familiar with the more Kirkbridian aspects of the lore. This suggests MK is a part (or the whole) of it. I don't know how closely Ted Peterson is connected with TES at the moment, but he's done stuff like this with MK before (Xal-Gosleigh). On the other hand, it would be a nice surprise to learn that someone currently working at Beth dug deep enough into the lore to come up with this.

Aside from that, I really want to know what happens when they (the characters) meet!

Ted's last posts lead me to believe that he is done writing for TES. I hope it's someone inside Bethesda, showing that they still do the lore thing.

-By the time they get done with all the remaining provinces changing it into a new world would confuse a lot of the "not as hardcoe" fans.

Au contraire. I hear new fans wishing all the time for some sort of reboot. Everyone wants to go to Akavir, which we know nothing about.

All the background that comes with each game, and the idea of the designers being constrained by lore and people complaining about lore is alienating to them.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 7:52 pm

Anybody wants to guess towards the authors?

The pattern is Xal-Gosleigh, but I'm not sure about the authors, or author.

http://www.imperial-library.info/content/xal-gosleigh-letters

Pretty sure Tal Marog Ker= TMK = The Michael Kirkbride (or some other "T"). The writing is pretty Kirkbridian, of the Cyrus type, not the Vehk type. (Well, with a *little* Vehk)

If there's a second author, I wouldn't know who.

Although if it's not MK, I hope some new person at Bethesda is involved. I miss the days of devs posting all the time.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:54 pm

Pretty sure Tal Marog Ker= TMK = The Michael Kirkbride (or some other "T").

Tal Marog Ker is from Battlespire.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 2:12 pm

[snip]

Auriel enacts a third end, transcendence, which is another name for destruction by way of neglect. Dagon preoccupies himself with images of dragons, yet Auriel adorns himself with shield and bow; his concerns are less draconic and thus weigh less on those vested in the world [save Talos who defends it].

What are we to make of this, other than the reference to the already prefigured re-enactment of the earliest of all battles?

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 6:37 am

Tal Marog Ker is from Battlespire.

Doesn't mean it can't be a clue.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 2:12 pm

Anybody wants to guess towards the authors?

The pattern is Xal-Gosleigh, but I'm not sure about the authors, or author.

http://www.imperial-library.info/content/xal-gosleigh-letters

Use of "confrater" pretty much confirms its someone with at least passing connection with t0; so in dev terms probably noone other than MK or a rather generous Tedders. And the 'playing it safe' around 'fact-lore' by going no further than the books could suggest also that at the very least it's someone on the outside (so not Tedders?).

My conservative money's on Adanorcil.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:16 pm

Use of "confrater" pretty much confirms its someone with at least passing connection with t0; so in dev terms probably noone other than MK or a rather generous Tedders. And the 'playing it safe' around 'fact-lore' by going no further than the books could suggest also that at the very least it's someone on the outside (so not Tedders?).

My conservative money's on Adanorcil.

Then again no dev post has ever seemed to go further than where-ever we are at the time, except maybe the loveletter, but even that was sent back in time.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 4:35 pm

Use of "confrater" pretty much confirms its someone with at least passing connection with t0;

Or has atleast read it. Which would be pretty awesome. Or used a dictionary.

The word was also used in reference to Gylwin and Temple Zero. Which are the typical "hangouts" for Kurt and Micheal.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 9:48 am

250 Stendarr's Star
1st Passing

Tal Marog Ker,
...

He upholds the dividing lines of the cosmos. Defends romance lest we lose it the pit of singularity.

His presence fortifies the Wheel of Convention and binds our souls to this plane.

"Romance" being the interplay of the anima/animus, which Mundus is created from. The Daedra do not believe they are trapped in the romance, so they've shunned the notion at Convention, but they are trapped. Dagon seems already divided.

My own thoughts.

And without anticipation, he is the Upstart.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 10:17 pm

I thought this was obvious, so I haven't mentioned it, but since no one has brought it up, I'm a little worried:

Chimere Graegyn is a Chimer, is he not?

One would think they would seek to absorb one with a heritage such as yours.

Just seems clear to me but maybe someone else knows differently?

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 7:36 pm

I thought this was obvious, so I haven't mentioned it, but since no one has brought it up, I'm a little worried:

Chimere Graegyn is a Chimer, is he not?

Just seems clear to me but maybe someone else knows differently?

He was a direnni retainer before ending up in oblivion, a position I doubt any chimer would hold.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 4:48 pm

He was a direnni retainer before ending up in oblivion, a position I doubt any chimer would hold.

I guess I don't see why not? What about serving under the Direnni so badly bruises a Chimer's ego?

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:17 pm

I guess I don't see why not? What about serving under the Direnni so badly bruises a Chimer's ego?

And I don't see why. As a native of the island of Caecilly, off the western coast of high rock, why on earth would he be a chimer, and why would he be living on that side of Tamriel? There's nothing that supports the idea that he's a chimer, and it's far more likely that he'd be an altmer given the circumstances.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 7:04 am

I agree that it's pretty unlikely he's a Chimer.

To elaborate, the quote you cite is probably just establishing that Chimere Graegyn is part of an old, prestigious Altermi bloodline. It's unlikely that the Dominion would be scrambling to bring a Chimer into the fold, considering the typical Altmer attitude (that is, disgust) toward dissidents like the Chimer.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 9:45 pm

Is it Peryite's low place in Oblivion, that endears him with Mundus and the impetus for the most radical change?