True all the refugee's from vvardenfell went to solstheim. but there has been land disputes on the border of Skyrim and Morrowind for a long time. Many dunmer most likely have migrated into the eastern part of skyrim.

And how does an elven or a mithril armor not considered specific and weird as well?

That aside, if they're available in game, I'd expect them to be no less than having an attached lore and background to the specific ruins where they can be found. And very, very rare, as stated on the lore.

Yea, Elven made sense in Oblivion, because of Ayleid ruins. Where did Mithril come from? Was that supposed to be Elven as well? Neither got as much in game info as I'd like. Dwarven did not belong in Cyrodiil because A) it's illegal and B) there are no dwarven ruins.

I think a couple pairs of those armors would be fine, on the border, and it would be especially cool for anyone playing a Dunmer to get their hands on them. But they really are Morrowind specific armors, and I'd hate to see them proliferate.

As other people have said, Nordic armors from Morrowind (trollbone, nordic mail, nordic ring) and new Nordic armors. As far as "ancient armor" like Dwarven or Elven, how about Falmer?

Screw all those Morrowind and Oblivion armors then; I want this first and foremost.

It would be ridiclous to expect a bunch of Morrowind armor sets when this is Skyrim. Maybe you'll see 1 or 2 sets, that's about it.

other/new.

Bonemold, netch and dreugh made sense in Morrowind because they were native Vvardenfell styles. I wouldn't expect to see Netches in Skyrim, nor Dreugh. Bonemold isn't a traditional native style of the Nords.

I hope we see new native armors in Skyrim, and armors made from the hide/parts of the native creatures that inhabit the land.

Wisdom for the ages.

I too want regional specific gear.

I don't have a source on this, but i'm pretty sure I heard somewhere that one of the towns in skyrim got heavily populated by dunmer immigrants after the red mountain incident and so over the years the dunmer culture have had a quite big influence on the town. I guess if that is true there could be some bonemold armor there or something, but other than that I see no reason really to add it in again.

When I played the Mehrune's Razor dlc for the first time, I heard that there was a Morag Tong assassin prisoner in the add on. I was really gutted when I found out that his leather armour was the same as Oblivion's leather armour. I was hoping for a set of netch armour but it was not to be. :nope:

If i remember correctly Bonemold is made out of bone (as described in the in-game books "Bone") so i dont see why there would be no new sets being made by Dunmer craftsmen :shrug:
Also netches could have easily survived, im pretty sure it was never stated that they were exclusive to Vvardenfell.
Even Chitin is not an impossiblility, which features in the book "Ice and Chitin" which takes place in skyrim.

If they're bringing back elven armour in a place where there are no ayleid ruins, i dont see why armours from Morrowind would make any less sense especially with the displacement of the Dunmer, many of whom would have fled Morrowind wearing their armour.

Honestly though ill be happy with any armour types as long as there are more closed helmets, oblivion had next to none.



Now that really is laziness on the part of the devs.

Exactly.

This armour does exist in the same universe as the game location. You're all super quick to whip out the N word.

The more armour types the better, I say.

Time will tell.

There seemed to be a pro-morrowind mentality and an anti-morrowind mentality thats causing a problem in these forums. BOTH of which are bad extremes and should be avoided.

pro-morrowind: "they should change things to the way they were in morrowind"<--- very annoying

anti-morrowind: "Morrwind fan-boys(pro-morrowinders) just want to change everything back to morrowind, so anything that resembles reverting back to morrowind should not happen.

this anti-morrowind mentality is contributing to people not wanting bonemold armor because it's from Morrowind, but thinking elven armor is okay in the next game.


It's an irrational fear of anything Morrowind.

I just want more armor in general from all over the lands. With the majority being Skyrim native armor of course.

It was/is an empire. Surely there exists a system of trade between the provinces. That would only make sense. Just because it was in Morrowind, it doesn't mean it can't be in following games. Particularly given the exous of the Dunmer to Skyrim.

To me it's like being afraid of awesomeness. It doesn't make any sense.

This is lore-correct to have Morrowind armour in Skyrim. There are books ("Ice and Chitin" and "Rear-Guard") describing use of Chitin and Netch leather armours in Skyrim, captured in Nord-Dunmeri fights.

Elven armor isn't Ayleid exclusive. Also, Bonemold armor and Netch armor doesn't make sense to have in Skyrim, the creatures used to make those armors are dead. The armor that would have survived would have become brittle and useless over the 160 year period. Just doesn't make sense imo, just feels like one of those "It was in Morrowind and I need it in every game so I can get back the feeling of Morrowind on a new engine."

You're making many assumptions there. Why assume that every species on Vvardenfell became extinct due to the eruption? And even if they did, there would be more on the mainland. Those animals could have easily repopulated within 160 years. Although from a logistical perspective, I can see why those armours would not be included in Skyrim. But still, I think it would be cool and not unreasonable to see maybe one armour from Morrowind, like Bonemold. After all, since their immigration to Solstheim, it follows that there was presumably a non-negligible influx of Dunmer refugees into Skyrim as well, and so why not have a couple Morrowind influences?

Trollbone armor, dragonskin, dragonbone

Also mods will add it in so whatever.

Yep. In fact, forget all armour altogether. Someone will just mod it in right?

There is an irrational antipathy of anything Morrowind because there is an irrational zeal for anything Morrowind. It is by far my favorite TES but the level of blind adherence for from its outspoken fans is beyond grating.

And I don't see how adding that fifth vote option would not do more harm than good to diminish the squabble. And why not a putting Trollbone instead, if you want returning armor types?

In regards to the Elven armor: I'm hoping that at least the armor being shown on the concept art video is Falmer in origin (as I don't see much semblance to the Ayleid ones there) and not just some tacked on elven armor without any regard to the lore. If we are to get the Ayleid one it should be regarded as one and being treated as something exotic and out of place (very rare and noted as such by the inhabitants) in Skyrim, just like how it should if there will actually be a few Morrowind specific armor pieces existing in the province.

Speaking of which, I think it would be interesting if the immigrating Dunmer populace adapting to their current environment, and appropriating local materials to their traditional armor style (for the sake of adherence to their customs and traditions, since they're supposed to be proud of theirs). For example, an anolog to the traditional Bonemold armor with a climate appropriate design, which uses Trollbone materials (just an example) and locally available source of resin (thus being different in effectiveness).

Well said. I agree with you.

Those are all how they look in game, which obviously suffers from the now dated graphics of Morrowind. But if they appeared in Skyrim, I'm sure they could look a lot better with Skyrim's graphical quality. Of course, chances are high that even if the same armors appeared, they'd look different from in Morrowind. Just as the elven armor in Skyrim looks different from its Oblivion counterpart, and how all of the Oblivion armors that also appeared in Morrowind looked different from the ones in Morrowind.

Myself, I don't mind too much either way if they appeared, although I'd like to see some imported armor to add a little variety (Although logically, most styles should still be of Nordic origins.) it doesn't have to be these armors. I wouldn't mind them appearing, if there was a plausible explanation for them being in Skyrim over a hundred years after Morrowind became uninhabitable, but if we want imported armors, it could just as easily be ones from other neighboring provinces as well, like Highrock, Hammerfell or Cyrodiil. I'm certainly not saying Morrowind armors SHOULDN'T be in, but it seems to me that players asking for them are doing so not because it would make sense to have them, but simply because they want the game to appeal to their Morrowind nostalgia. Because I see no reason why one would ask for these specific armors if there was a better reason. Why not ask for armors that both appeared in Morrowind and would be perfectly at home in Skyrim as well, like trollbone or dragonscale armors?

You shouldn't just add armor styles from previous games just because they were in previous games, you should add them because it fits with the game to have them in.

Yeah that was my point. the irrational hate for Morrowind stems from some people liking it too much


your right. changed.


good point about the dunmer being proud of their heritage. That was the feeling I got in morrowind, but all the dark elves in cyrodil seemed a bit... fruity.

Only if Cyrodiilic guard armors return...

It's the same principle.