Book of Earache: no go : Fallout 3

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:19 am

So I was using eXcalibr Ammo and eXcalibr Munitions Shop for a while (because they're quite fun, and I likes me some new guns), with FWE, MMM, EVE, WMK and a bunch of other stuff - no worries there; no crashes, nothing.

But then I saw this nifty "update" for both of them, all in one, and decided to try it out. Aaaand... it won't work. Not with a new Merged Patch, nor with a fresh Bashed Patch... nor even both.

The problem is, I can't even get to the main menu. The game starts up, but no menu options appear, no matter how long I wait. Also, I seem to be short one mouse pointer. Very annoying, suffice it to say.

Anyone got some advice, tips, relevant experiences, or whatever, that might help me get all of this playing together nicely? If it will, that is. And yes, I do have the WMK patch installed, and everything is updated to the latest version, btw.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:04 am

did you remove EVERYTHING that it says to remove in the readme? it's very specific that if you dont remove all the old modules it wont work.

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:12 pm

did you remove EVERYTHING that it says to remove in the readme? it's very specific that if you dont remove all the old modules it wont work.

Yes. Absolutely everything.

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:07 pm

post your load order, maybe i can figure it out by seeing that, also did you install it manually or through fomod, and do you have the latest version? (4.4)

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 8:12 am

post your load order, maybe i can figure it out by seeing that, also did you install it manually or through fomod, and do you have the latest version? (4.4)

Will do - there might even be other errors there, for all I know. But anyway, FOMM and 4.4, yep.

I've cut a few things out, since I first installed BoE. In the hope that one of them might've been responsible. But no...

Spoiler

00  fallout3.esm01  anchorage.esm02  thepitt.esm03  brokensteel.esm04  pointlookout.esm05  zeta.esm06  craft.esm07  calibr.esm  [Version 1.4]08  xcalibr.esm09  xcalibruniverse.esm0A  face3.esm0B  canterbury commons interiors embiggened.esm0C  big town overhaul.esm0D  fo3 wanderers edition - main file.esm0E  mart's mutant mod.esm0F  firelightfix.esp10  darnifieduif3.esp11  FACE3 - NPCS.esp12  FACE3 - DLC04 Point Lookout.esp13  FACE3 NPCS - DLC03 Broken Steel.esp14  nolocktopic.esp15  dof-purenormal.esp16  casm.esp17  more hotkeys.esp18  kts_centercamera.esp19  galaxynewsradio100[m].esp1A  ex libris - prewar book titles.esp1B  noknockedovercomments.esp1C  megalight.esp1D  fo3 wanderers edition - main file.esp1E  fo3 wanderers edition - dlc anchorage.esp1F  fo3 wanderers edition - dlc the pitt.esp20  fo3 wanderers edition - dlc broken steel.esp21  fo3 wanderers edition - dlc point lookout.esp22  fo3 wanderers edition - dlc mothership zeta.esp23  fo3 wanderers edition - followers enhanced (brokensteel).esp24  fo3 wanderers edition - optional vats halftime.esp25  refurbish [oa].esp26  refurbish [oa] - fwe.esp27  refurbish [tp].esp28  refurbish [bs].esp29  refurbish [pl].esp2A  refurbish [mz].esp2B  weaponmodkits.esp2C  weaponmodkits - fwe master release.esp2D  weaponmodkits - operationanchorage.esp2E  weaponmodkits - thepitt.esp2F  weaponmodkits - brokensteel.esp30  weaponmodkits - pointlookout.esp31  weaponmodkits - zeta.esp32  wmkaa12shotgun.esp33  type3accessories.esp34  type3clothes.esp35  eve.esp36  eve operation anchorage.esp37  eve - fwe master release.esp38  EVE - FWE Master Release (Follower Enhanced).esp39  EVE Anchorage - FWE DLC Anchorage.esp3A  EVE - FWE with WeaponModKits.esp3B  mart's mutant mod.esp3C  mart's mutant mod - dlc anchorage.esp3D  mart's mutant mod - dlc the pitt.esp3E  mart's mutant mod - dlc broken steel.esp3F  Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp40  mart's mutant mod - dlc zeta.esp41  mart's mutant mod - zones respawn.esp42  Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp43  Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp44  Mart's Mutant Mod - Master Menu Module.esp45  CP - FACE3 NPCS [MMM].esp46  CP - FACE3 [MMM] Racefix.esp47  mart's mutant mod - fwe master release.esp48  mart's mutant mod - fwe master release + dlcs.esp49  bittercup_comp.esp4A  1pipboypda.esp4B  notheftcomments.esp4C  Weighted Bottlecaps [Yushatak Version].esp4D  dd-larger blood.esp4E  Fellout-pipboylight.esp4F  pip60.esp50  fellout-full.esp51  Fellout-Anchorage.esp52  Fellout-BrokenSteel.esp53  fellout-pointlookout.esp54  fellout-zeta.esp55  the groovatron.esp56  the groovatron_dlc_anch_addon.esp57  the groovatron_dlc_pitt_addon.esp58  the groovatron_dlc_pl_addon.esp59  xcalibruniverse.esp5A  xcalibruniverse - wmk.esp5B  xcalibruniverse_fwe_fps.esp5C  Merged Patch.esp

(Ordered with BOSS, using the latest masterlist).

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:51 pm

hmm, i cant find anything that wouldn't work, considering my load order is kinda of the same. try removing anything that isn't FOIP'd and xcal. perhaps its some other mod not playing nicely with xcal universe. also out of curiosity, where did you get your EVE - FWE - WMK patch?

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:47 am

hmm, i cant find anything that wouldn't work, considering my load order is kinda of the same. try removing anything that isn't FOIP'd and xcal. perhaps its some other mod not playing nicely with xcal universe.

And whadayano, it is that.

I just... don't know which one.

It's likely to be a large mod, like FACE, Canterbury Commons Interiors Embiggened, or Big Town Overhaul. FACE, perhaps?

Now I'll have to go looking through all of them, in FO3Edit, the GECK or whatever else, and try to figure out the best bet. Or I can add one at a time of course - that might be the easiest way.

Thanks for responding, and yeah, suggesting something I should've already tried. :blush:

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:05 am

And whadayano, it is that.

I just... don't know which one.

It's likely to be a large mod, like FACE, Canterbury Commons Interiors Embiggened, or Big Town Overhaul. FACE, perhaps?

Now I'll have to go looking through all of them, in FO3Edit, the GECK or whatever else, and try to figure out the best bet. Or I can add one at a time of course - that might be the easiest way.

Thanks for responding, and yeah, suggesting something I should've already tried. :blush:

start with what you think might be causing it then work from there, if it doesnt turn out to be that mod, turn it back on in case some weird combination of mods isnt working. i wouldn't think anything that alters interiors would do it though.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:09 am

start with what you think might be causing it then work from there, if it doesnt turn out to be that mod, turn it back on in case some weird combination of mods isnt working. i wouldn't think anything that alters interiors would do it though.

And yes, it was one of those three: Big Town Overhaul, of all things. :huh:

'll have a look through it when I get a chance - no idea right now why it and BoE shouldn't work together. Or, those plus FWE and co., anyway. :shrug: It'll be interesting to find out, when I do. But for now, at least it seems like the game it playable once more. Yay! :twirl:

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:41 am

I needed to make a clean install after uninstalling Book of Earache.... due to the same problem the first poster mentions.... upon removing or disabling the files of this mod causes that....