Books.

Post » Thu Nov 18, 2010 2:28 pm

What books do you want back?
What kind do you want to see more of?

I want all of them to be in the game. Even from past games. More joke books, and plays. (It would be sweet if NPC's acted out the plays)
I would love to see more of the adventures of Decumus Scotti.
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Amy Siebenhaar
 
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Post » Thu Nov 18, 2010 7:24 pm

I want plenty of books detailing what happened in the last 200 years, along with some ancient tomes relating to Alduin, etc.

Now that books are actual 3D rendered objects that open in your inventory, I hope there's a lot of them...
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Post » Thu Nov 18, 2010 10:42 am

I don't really see any reason not to have every book from past games as well as new books. And as far as new books go, I'd like more short stories, as those have always been my favorite. I'd also like more books dealing with aspects of the lore (metaphysical mind-scramblers included :laugh:).
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Gaelle Courant
 
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Post » Thu Nov 18, 2010 12:53 pm

They have 200 years of lore to explain, I hope they do a thorough job!
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Kevin S
 
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Post » Fri Nov 19, 2010 1:27 am

I'd like to see them take a cue from the amazing book jacket mod and give all the books unique textures.
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Alycia Leann grace
 
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Post » Thu Nov 18, 2010 10:57 pm

I want the complete collection of Lusty Argonian Maid, The.
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Clea Jamerson
 
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Post » Thu Nov 18, 2010 9:27 pm

Interactive books.

Books that give you locations, FAQ's, tips, hints at easter eggs, side quests, ect. It would be awesome if taking the time to read a book on a shelf paid off more than a random skill increase 1/50 times. Give me a reason to want to read the books.....
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Post » Thu Nov 18, 2010 12:08 pm

I want the complete collection of Lusty Argonian Maid, The.

Me too!
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Post » Thu Nov 18, 2010 11:08 am

Maybe the long awaited sequel to "The Lusty Argonian Maid" :tongue:

I wouldn't mind all the previous books plus ones that tie in what happened in between games. Maybe take some stuff from IC?

Edit: I....I've been ninja'd :sad:
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Post » Thu Nov 18, 2010 9:31 am

One of my characters was an assassin by night, and a noble and archivist by day. You should've seen his bedroom in Rosethorn Hall!
Collecting books was one of the joys of Oblivion, and a lot of books (especially skillbooks) had pretty awesome stories. I'd love to see some of the old books make a return, as well as a surge of contemporary literature. However, I'd like books to also play more of a part in quests and finding locations and such, to give people more of an incentive to read them. Otherwise, they just seem like filler material.
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Post » Thu Nov 18, 2010 11:30 pm

I want to read about more cultural god-heroes. Think Vivec, Sotha Sil, Almalexia, Alessia, Reman Cyrodiil, Pelinal Whitestrake, Morihaus, etc. Get MK on the job. I love the Song of Pelinal. Whoever made the 36 Lessons of Vivec and Remanada are great, too.
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Post » Thu Nov 18, 2010 10:53 am

Maybe the long awaited sequel to "The Lusty Argonian Maid" :tongue:


This^

Also any books of any kind, the more lore fluff we can get, the better.
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Post » Thu Nov 18, 2010 9:09 pm

books really fill ouit the lore so more is good.
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Post » Thu Nov 18, 2010 12:07 pm

It has been a long time since Daggerfall, but I vaguely remember a fairy tale about a princess who was turned into a grub by an evil sorceror. (edit:looked it up. 'a tale of Kieram.')
It was written with such obvious joy in the writing of it, and the punchline was so statisfying, it truly gave the world more depth to me knowing that gems as such were out there.

I remember on Morrowind hunting for all the 2920 books. It took a long time to find them all and boy was it statisfying. I didnt read any of them after finding the first one before i had the set. I wanted to read them in order and at one time.
I also spent a happy time at Jobasha's reading all the a dance in fire books. They were fascinating, funny and came to a statisfying conclusion.

Unfortunately oblivion broke the tradition a bit. There were very few new books and those that were there, most of them were not so good. Particularly the argonian account was dissapointing. It seemed to be too forcefully like the first series, but much less of a statisfying conclusion.

For Skyrim I would like to see a return to before oblivion. Lots and lots of new books. I dont mind some from previous games, but not 80% like last time.
History books, books on religion. Books on day to day life and fiction. Joke books and plays and letters.
Lots of books for me to devour!
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Post » Thu Nov 18, 2010 4:35 pm

It has been a long time since Daggerfall, but I vaguely remember a fairy tale about a princess who was turned into a grub by an evil sorceror.
It was written with such obvious joy in the writing of it, and the punchline was so statisfying, it truly gave the world more depth to me knowing that gems as such were out there.

I remember on Morrowind hunting for all the 2920 books. It took a long time to find them all and boy was it statisfying. I didnt read any of them after finding the first one before i had the set. I wanted to read them in order and at one time.
I also spent a happy time at Jobasha's reading all the a dance in fire books. They were fascinating, funny and came to a statisfying conclusion.

Unfortunately oblivion broke the tradition a bit. There were very few new books and those that were there, most of them were not so good. Particularly the argonian account was dissapointing. It seemed to be too forcefully like the first series, but much less of a statisfying conclusion.

For Skyrim I would like to see a return to before oblivion. Lots and lots of new books. I dont mind some from previous games, but not 80% like last time.
History books, books on religion. Books on day to day life and fiction. Joke books and plays and letters.
Lots of books for me to devour!

Uh...Oblivion introduced more books to the series than Daggerfall. It broke no such tradition:

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:A_Life_of_Uriel_Septim_VII
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Rislav_The_Righteous
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Ahzirr_Traajijazeri
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:History_of_the_Fighters_Guild
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Fire_and_Darkness
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Five_Tenets
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Followers_of_the_Gray_Fox
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Hiding_With_the_Shadow
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Manifesto_Cyrodiil_Vampyrum

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Necromancer%27s_Moon
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Pension_of_the_Ancestor_Moth
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Beggar
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Thief
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Warrior
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:King
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Argonian_Account,_Book_1
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Argonian_Account,_Book_2

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Argonian_Account,_Book_3
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Argonian_Account,_Book_4
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Beggar_Prince
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Exodus
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Knightfall
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Purloined_Shadows
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Refugees
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Thief_of_Virtue
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Adabal-a

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Amulet_of_Kings
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Battle_of_Sancre_Tor
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Before_the_Ages_of_Man
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Cleansing_of_the_Fane
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Daughter_of_the_Niben
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Dwemer_History_and_Culture
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Fall_of_Vitharn
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Last_King_of_the_Ayleids
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Legendary_Sancre_Tor

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Lost_Histories_of_Tamriel
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Remanada
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Song_of_Pelinal,_v_1
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Song_of_Pelinal,_v_2
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Song_of_Pelinal,_v_3
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Song_of_Pelinal,_v_4
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Song_of_Pelinal,_v_5
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Song_of_Pelinal,_v_6
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Song_of_Pelinal,_v_7

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Treatise_on_Ayleidic_Cities
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Advances_in_Lock_Picking
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Ayleid_Reference_Text
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Bark_and_Sap
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Calcinator_Treatise
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:De_Rerum_Dirennis
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:An_Elytra%27s_Life
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:From_Frog_to_Man
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Fundaments_of_Alchemy
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Heavy_Armor_Repair

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:History_of_Lock_Picking
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Immortal_Blood
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Light_Armor_Repair
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Liminal_Bridges
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Lithnilian%27s_Research_Notes
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Liturgy_of_Affliction
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Living_Woods
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Mace_Etiquette
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Magic_from_the_Sky

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Manual_of_Armor
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Manual_of_Arms
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Manual_of_Spellcraft
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Manual_of_Xedilian
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Predecessors
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Proper_Lock_Design
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Reality_%26_Other_Falsehoods
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Saints_and_Seducers
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Shivering_Apothecary

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Shivering_Bestiary
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Souls,_Black_and_White
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Standing_Stones
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Varieties_of_Daedra
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Way_of_the_Exposed_Palm
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Agnar%27s_Journal
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Amantius_Allectus%27_Diary
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Ancotar%27s_Journal
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:A_Bloody_Journal
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Brenus_Astis%27_Journal

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Cap%27n_Dugal%27s_Journal
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Cindanwe%27s_Notebook
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Dar-Ma%27s_Diary
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Diary_of_Springheel_Jak
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Doors_of_Oblivion
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Drothan%27s_Field_Journal
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Drothan%27s_Journal
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Father_of_the_Niben

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Frostcrag_Spire_Memoirs
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Gelebourne%27s_Journal
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Greywyn%27s_Journal
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Grommok%27s_Journal
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Journal_of_the_Lord_Lovidicus
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Log_of_the_Emma_May
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Path_of_Transcendence
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Ramblings_of_Audens_Avidius
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Red_Kitchen_Reader
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Sacred_Witness
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Sir_Amiel%27s_Journal
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Traelius%27_Journal

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Traitor%27s_Diary
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Macabre_Manifest
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Report:_Disaster_at_Ionith
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Warp_in_the_West_(book)
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Mysterium_Xarxes
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Tome_of_Unlife
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Legend_of_Krately_House
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Mannimarco,_King_of_Worms
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Ravings_of_Fenroy
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Song_of_Hrormir
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Black_Arts_On_Trial

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Myth_or_Menace%3F
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:16_Accords_of_Madness,_v._VI
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:16_Accords_of_Madness,_v._IX
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:16_Accords_of_Madness,_v._XII
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Bible_of_the_Deep_Ones
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Blessings_of_Sheogorath
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Divining_the_Elder_Scolls
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Heretical_Thoughts

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Modern_Heretics
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Mythic_Dawn_Commentaries_1
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Mythic_Dawn_Commentaries_2
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Mythic_Dawn_Commentaries_3
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Mythic_Dawn_Commentaries_4
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Myths_of_Sheogorath
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Opusculus_Lamae_Bal_ta_Mezzamortie
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Prophet_Arden-Sul
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Shezarr_and_the_Divines
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Ten_Commands:_Nine_Divines
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Trials_of_St._Alessia

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Glories_and_Laments
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Guide_to_Anvil
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Guide_to_Bravil
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Guide_to_Bruma
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Guide_to_Cheydinhal
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Guide_to_Chorrol
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Guide_to_the_Imperial_City
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Guide_to_Leyawiin
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Guide_to_New_Sheoth
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Guide_to_Skingrad
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Post » Fri Nov 19, 2010 1:35 am

That is interesting info seti, thank you.

Would it still hold true if you compared vanilla Morrowind to vanilla oblivion though?

I am a console player and mostly only have access to vanilla editions, I cant afford to keep buying new stuff when it comes out.

It is my distinct impression that vanilla oblivion had fewer new books than vanilla Morrowind. But maybe Im wrong and it just seems that way because a lot of books were imported from Morrowind, and that was less so with Daggerfall - Morrowind.
So it could just be an illusion caused by familiarity with the Morrowind books.
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Post » Thu Nov 18, 2010 10:17 pm

That is interesting info seti, thank you.

Would it still hold true if you compared vanilla Morrowind to vanilla oblivion though?

I am a console player and mostly only have access to vanilla editions, I cant afford to keep buying new stuff when it comes out.

It is my distinct impression that vanilla oblivion had fewer new books than vanilla Morrowind. But maybe Im wrong and it just seems that way because a lot of books were imported from Morrowind, and that was less so with Daggerfall - Morrowind.
So it could just be an illusion caused by familiarity with the Morrowind books.

I counted, once. I got about 90 original books for Daggerfall, 230 for Morrowind (with expansions and DLC), and 140 for Oblivion (with expansions and DLC). My list is a bit incomplete in that I never got around to marking them all in relation to where they are from, but if I had to guess, I would say vanilla Oblivion introduced about 100-110 books. The problem is that many of them are very rare. I'm not quite sure what Battlespire and Redguard have and I was going to make lists of all of them, eventually. I was surprised the UESP and the Imperial Library don't seem to have any such lists, but maybe I just haven't searched hard enough. I'm not sure.
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Post » Thu Nov 18, 2010 2:08 pm

What was that book about a Vampire in oblivion? I forgot exactly what happens but I think I was surprised that he was a vampire.
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Post » Thu Nov 18, 2010 5:26 pm

What was that book about a Vampire in oblivion? I forgot exactly what happens but I think I was surprised that he was a vampire.

Immortal Blood
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Post » Thu Nov 18, 2010 11:16 pm

I counted, once. I got about 90 original books for Daggerfall, 230 for Morrowind (with expansions and DLC), and 140 for Oblivion (with expansions and DLC). My list is a bit incomplete in that I never got around to marking them all in relation to where they are from, but if I had to guess, I would say vanilla Oblivion introduced about 100-110 books. The problem is that many of them are very rare. I'm not quite sure what Battlespire and Redguard have and I was going to make lists of all of them, eventually. I was surprised the UESP and the Imperial Library don't seem to have any such lists, but maybe I just haven't searched hard enough. I'm not sure.



Yes, that is a good point. Morrowind did not have books as random loot, there were usually 2 or more editions of each rare book out there, in a tomb or someones house. In oblivion you got them in random loot and quests. Wich makes bear season a favorite quest of mine, I often get a lovely book.

I dont know how to make a link in this msg, but try searching on uesp for: lore-books-by-game
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Post » Thu Nov 18, 2010 2:31 pm

What I'd think would be a good idea is to have books with a use. For example if you travel to an old fort and look in the library. finding a book in a dusty, old shelf hidden at the back of the room giving a riddle based upon some lore which you need another book to figure out. The riddle could be a clue another hidden book etcetera, etcetera until you find a hidden room with lord so and so's hidden treasure somewhere in skyrim.
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Post » Thu Nov 18, 2010 3:37 pm

Thereshould be at least 150 books, each of which would have an average of 15-20 pages.
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Post » Fri Nov 19, 2010 2:04 am

Yes, that is a good point. Morrowind did not have books as random loot, there were usually 2 or more editions of each rare book out there, in a tomb or someones house. In oblivion you got them in random loot and quests. Wich makes bear season a favorite quest of mine, I often get a lovely book.

I dont know how to make a link in this msg, but try searching on uesp for: lore-books-by-game

The problem was that they included every book that was in the game, including ones taken from previous games, in those lists, and it was all mixed together.
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Post » Thu Nov 18, 2010 8:20 pm

A few copies of trilogy of bone and a few books going over how cyrodill stopped having any jungle.
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Post » Thu Nov 18, 2010 2:34 pm

Does Purloined Shadows describe Emer Dareloth's theft of the cowl of the nocturnal?
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