NV was just too civilized, it didn't have that on-your-toes, random, dark, depressing feeling / combat that I loves in FO3.

NV lasted me about 3 weeks. Its a pretty average game IMO. The thing is once you've completed the main quest and heard the dialogue, the game becomes boring and pointless. 3 weeks is still good for a game though. But when you consider games like oblivion, FO3, C&C, civilisation, COD, TW all lasted me months, its maybe not so good

Fallout is not about 'DOOM AND GLOOM FOREVER' It's always been about rebuilding. D.C. just got a late start at rebuilding. But while I do enjoy Fallout 3's world a little more than Vegas, it's only from an aesthetic view. But from a modern day (ingame) aspect, combat for combats's sake isn't the point of Fallout, Fallout as a series has always been about the struggle for the greater good (or evil if you want to go that way)

I do miss the exploring the buildings aspect of FO3, which was very well done. Roosevelt Academy? The Hospital? Such great fun areas to explore.

NV needed more building coolness.

Fallout is not about 'DOOM AND GLOOM FOREVER' It's always been about rebuilding. D.C. just got a late start at rebuilding. But while I do enjoy Fallout 3's world a little more than Vegas, it's only from an aesthetic view. But from a modern day (ingame) aspect, combat for combats's sake isn't the point of Fallout, Fallout as a series has always been about the struggle for the greater good (or evil if you want to go that way)

Give me a plausible world with immersion over pretty shell and epic Baysplosions any day. :disguise:

Well, agreed with ya.
And since it has the name Fallout on the box, I actually expect that special something that made the first games too.
We can argue as much as we want about the 'fun' factor, still doesn't change the fact about Fallout 3 being less of a Fallout game overall(but a good game nonetheless, sheesh I feel like I have to say that everytime just to avoid getting painted as a Bethesda hater).

Give me a plausible world with immersion over pretty shell and epic Baysplosions any day. :disguise:

go by hidden valley 50 times, always gonna be a few bark scorpions, go to nipton, same thing, a couple bark scorpions, just outside of goodsrpings, gonna be the same 2 or 3 powder gangers wandering around in a circle with lousy weapons, this isn't really arguable, i know new vegas has some things to offer, good selection of weapons, lots of quests, but its just a desert, 90% of the map area at least has absoloutely nothing going on. you never have to worry about any random enemies showing up, or getitng ambushed, you know exactly what to expect in any given area. its a very predictable map world.

In all the vastness of Fallout New Vegas, the Mojave is truly a sight to behold. It held my attention for a solid two months. I have multiple characters, all with 80 hours plus, each siding with a different faction, each with it's own combat skill (guns, melee, etc), and a few that have their levels topped out just before the "point of no return" just so I can get on and dike around (shoot a few deathclaws and townsfolk in the face for [censored] n' giggles).

The thing is, I'm bored. I've played the game so much, I grew bored of it. I'm not normally an achievement hunter, but when it comes to the fallout games, I get em all. Within the first week of release, I had them all. I'm missing all of the Sierra Madre achievements because it doesn't look that appealing to me. Sure I could go get it, waste two hours playing it, then another hour backtracking and getting the rest of the achievements, but it doesn't seem worth it.

My question is, is what's left to do? I've gone through as a character that was a chem dealer, finding resources, and crafting drugs. I bought and sold chems as a way to sustain my own life in the desert. My outfit was the merchant top and hat. I had more fun doing the role play thing than anything else. I don't really want to play the game through again, but I'm looking for something new, like, "protect this town from an incoming invasion of ghouls." But is there really anything left to do? I have a few stones unturned, like skill books here and there, but I just feel I can't be bothered to put the game in and go for it.

Anyone have any suggestions?

a plausible world that makes sense??, lol you want fallout to be like the sims, this "plausible" and "believable" business isn't very much fun, thats why most people are done with the game after 2 months, a branching mediocre story isn't enough, you need a dymamic world, you can't have 99% of the map empty with nothing going on, the story isn't that great actually, so its not like thats a selling point, as far as game immersion, its not very immersive for me, the map area is completely predictable with nothing random ever happening, almost the entire map is void. there's been a lot of threads on how the game has become boring...it is fun for short time, until you realize you can expect the exact same thing happening on the entire map, and you're never gonna be caught off guard or suprised, there's not good battlezones on the map, not really any places to hide or stalk enemies, you're out in ther open wherever you are, so all this does make the game dull after the first couple playthroughs.

Hyperboles are not helping your arguments buddy.
I don't need epicness and slaughterhouse on every corner just to make it barely worth my attention, Call of Duty is there for this kind of stuff.

All I am saying is quality > quantity. Deal with it.

But when it comes to figths, New Vegas has neither quality nor quantity :shrug:

Im not trying to capture your attention im just saying the facts here buddy.They shouldnt just have one they should of tried to have both quality and quantity. Your the one choosing to be in this thread so... Deal with it.

Let me disagree there with you good sir.
With superior gameplay mechanics, damage threshold, different melee attacks(even with animations), ironsights, blah blah blah I gotta say it's pretty much superior to F3's.



Uh, I didn't mean that as you. Maybe I should have used another word to avoid confusion? :cryvaultboy:

Kinda said my name in the thing there boy. :rolleyes:

Like I said, it was not meant to be aimed at you. Still want to be anol about it? :foodndrink:

EDIT: Well seems like epicness http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=epicness a word after all.

Let me disagree there with you good sir.
With superior gameplay mechanics, damage threshold, different melee attacks(even with animations), ironsights, blah blah blah I gotta say it's pretty much superior to F3's.

The mechanics yes, i agree. But the enemies are too few and poorly equipped to make anything of them.

A mod added a new place with Viper Gunslinger that were equipped with guns (:ooo:) and special ammo. That was an interesting fight. But there's nothing like that in the base game.

Taking back Nelson i killed two legionaries. In Techatticup Mine i killed 3 legionaries. Mostly because ED-E has glitched itself an Alien Blaster, and i gave All-American to Cass :hehe:

The mechanics yes, i agree. Immensely better than unmodded Fallout 3. But the enemies are too few and poorly equipped to make anything of them.

A mod added a new place with Viper Gunslinger that were equipped with guns (:ooo:) and special ammo. That was an interesting fight. But there's nothing like that in the base game.

Taking back Nelson i killed two legionaries. In Techatticup Mine i killed 3 legionaries. Mostly because ED-E has glitched itself an Alien Blaster, and i gave All-American to Cass :hehe:

And lol at the viper gunslingers with guns. classic.

Hmm, you got a point there.Not that I am complaining but I did indeed noticed the little numbers of roaming enemies. But then again, Mojave isn't a warzone like the DC and it seems to be more akin to the older Fallouts too.

Hmm, you got a point there.

Not that I am complaining but I did indeed noticed the little numbers of roaming enemies. But then again, Mojave isn't a warzone like the DC and it seems to be more akin to the older Fallouts too.

You just now noticed that kind of thing wow...Enemies what enemies??? A bloatfly isnt considered a enemy.

Hyperboles are not helping your arguments buddy.
I don't need epicness and slaughterhouse on every corner just to make it barely worth my attention, Call of Duty is there for this kind of stuff.

All I am saying is quality > quantity. Deal with it.

So isn't a Super Mutant in F3 on LvL 2. Deathclaws, Cazadores, they'll tear you apart in NV.