Not enough Brotherhood in the Mojave, and since they don't recruit in the way the NCR does, they will never win.

These reasons alone are why I said they are weak, the principle and reason why for the Brotherhood is nearly gone from the East. The East has shifting away from the principle of what the Brotherhood of Steel is and becoming something independent.

My cl guy would love it, but he is in no shape for a dlc. My main character is...........but I don t really want to kill everything in a cl dcl, but he does lol

I just hope they don t I could see some mention of them or even good back ground info. It would just be very hard for writers to do it and for it to be logical to everyone s different characters IMO

The Brotherhood of Steel is located in many parts of the U.S, each governed by a Elder, who most of the time runs their chapter independently from the MAIN chapter. To say that they aren't that big is an understatement.
Yes the BoS has taken heavy losses in the CORE REGION through their wars with the NCR and Enclave but that doesn't mean they are dying out. You cannot base the whole organization's fate on that. The Mojave Chapter was nearly wiped out SOLEY due to Elijahs priorities.
All the BoS needs to do to remake themselves a Power Faction is open up to recruiting outsiders.

One of the Main reasons i want to see the MWBOS in F4. As for a DLC for New Vegas no BOS whatever power they had is gone and not coming back i say focus on NCR and Legion.

It s not about if I like them or not, its about the fact that everyone has characters that are set. No faction if I like them or not should be added on to in anyway

DM type dlcs is what I think we ll get, besides some continuation of the courier himself.

It doesn t logically fit the way they did the game. Any faction dlc is not logical at this point.

Its not about me or you, its about fitting in with a game that has been out for like 6 months. The stuff everyone is talking about is for another game not a dlc.

Fo3 was not the first fallout game Lyons bos and the mid west bos r rouge chapters. The real bos r not like them. Go on wiki and read about the real bos and you will understand more.
The western bos is on the way out, becausd they never recruited. They are not always nice guys like Lyons bos. They r more like the Outcasts. They do not have the man power to be everywhere in the country. Their main chapters in the west r in big trouble.

What you r saying is out of control.

Well since the cw bos has a whole bunch of new Enclave tech, and they recruit as well, I can asure you that Lyons bos is a beast right now. They also have vertibirds now too. Hellfire pa Telsa pa MK II pa. The next time we see cw bos they will be nothing like when we left there. They will be bigger and stronger, and have much better tech. They don t miss the 25 outcasts Im sure. I hope they killed them. Wiki says one of their missions was to find the mid west bos, but failed. We need to go to Chicago and see what has become of them. in Fo4 IMO

Wiki says the western bos is in serious trouble. It makes it seem like all western bos are like the nv chapter, because NCR has been slapping them. It says they r scattered in cali and in big trouble.

A DLC featuring the BOS in FONV would be kind of a waste. Concidering how weak the they are around New Vegas at the moment, a DLC devoted to them would either be very small or would really screw things up story wise. However a DLC about CL, with settlements and/or bases to the east would be interesting. Like many people, I no interest in the Legion other than destorying them. But a Legion area to the east would open up the option for preforming black ops missions against them to disrupt supply lines, take out key leaders, and further weaken them before thee battle at Hoover Dam. Of course pro Legion players would gain a better player experience with quests, etc.

I think that a BoS DLC is not a bad idea, but I can't see it happening, it's just that the ending has different scenarios. Just like a cl DLC or any other faction. If the rumors about HH are true, the Burned Man will be there. That has to do with the legion, but it isin't expanding them from the Mojave. Expanding them would be adding another Fort with ties to Caesar or ties to the Main Quest, in New Canaan or something like that. :confused: ( That was totaly messed up, but it's some sort of suggestion. Not meant for this thread though,)

This is coming from someone who completely sides with the NCR, and helps the BoS during their quests.

I'm not into the fallout rts's that much...they're so windows 98'ish xD

Well, they're not rogue anymore because the West is pretty much non-existent. No the outcasts are the outcasts and the previous outcasts are the Brotherhood. Also, it is spelled ARE.

i don't think Any of the DLC's will be about any of the fations present in NV they maigth be there but story wise it would *** everything up i myself i'm a PRO NCR in NV i bet CL woulden't be very hapy to let me int theyr land after i killed theyr leader

KUDOS :fallout: <===this should say NCR

ok, but he's right, u cant, because if u work for the legion, when u get there no1 will attack u, if u don't, ill kill every1 (because ur forced to, they'll attack u 1st), it just would not work, AT ALL.

no faction dlcs.

kid I ll put what I want The bos power does seem to have shifted coasts. This is why I want to see the mid west bos in fo4.

We need to know how they faired. There is still no ending.......

It completely depends on how they design the DLC.
If anti-Legion then I'm sure there is a different faction to help instead and you get to run around under cover like a spy or something.
Whilst if pro-Legion then you get the mission to sniff this faction out and bring them to justice.

Just cause it's a Legion DLC doesn't mean that it has to be "either kill everyone" or "kill no one".

Of course there is after all the wild card solution.
Say the DLC takes place inside a Legion city, then you piss off both factions, at that point the city gates close down and you have to fight for your life to get out of there. (You will be given quests that follow your gut feeling basically.)

Going into towns and nailing innocent unarmed civilians to crosses and burning them on piles of tires based on a lottery drawing is not warfare. It s psychological torture and slaughter.

I m sure my main character that has all ready killed every cl you can possibly kill, will be real impressed when he sees women as slaves staggering around with really big backpacks. He ll want to get to know them better then. lol

We should stick to DM type dlcs and maybe hear more about cl, but not really see cl.

Some of them deserved it at least. You forget about that plan they were going to have before they got betrayed?

That's psychological warfare, and the Legion use it to great effect.

Then what's the point of the DLC's?
If anything they should be used to expand the lore, hell, that's the only good thing that can come out of them.

Only ones that would be included in warfare was the NCR guys.

Tricking a greedy mayor and then torturing and slaughtering at town is not warfare.

That is not defined as warfare.......... None of them deserved it but NCR, because NCR soilders is who they are fighting a war against.

It wasn't just about warfare, it was to show the rest of the Mojave what happens to people like the citizens of Nipton and Powder Gangers.
Hell, it's even nice enough of Legion to give the rest of the wasteland a heads up of things to come if you're a bad person.
Another thing was to show their power, that a small town as Nipton fell incredibly easy to the power of the Legion.
It's a tactic of bringing fear and terror to the rest of the people in the Mojave, and it's also meant as a way to demorilize NCR morale.
A third thing was to let some of them survive in order to tell people first hand of what happened in Nipton, the ones they left alive are basically walking advertisemants of Legion's brutality.
Next up is that the town was bad.
It was a greedy cesspool of evil dikes who would stab their own mother in the back for some cash, good riddance.

There were lots of good reasons to off Nipton for Legion, it wasn't done because they're sadistic bastards who like to make people suffer, it was done for the good of the Mojave, to stab NCR morale, to give the rest of the Mojave a heads up of things to come if you're a bad person.
So it wasn't just for psychological warfare but to introduce the Legion law of doing things to the people they are going to conquer.

In warfare though, no matter how evil one might consider it, killing "civilians" on the oppossing side can be a good thing, you might not like it but even though they're not soldiers it's still warfare.