I was very disappointed with how small the BoS play in the original release of FONV even though its understandable after FO3s version of BoS. After more dlc has been released it will be easier to speculate. At this point I think that the dlc Old World Bluse will focus on the Bos, enclave, and Mr. houses army. The reason i think this is what father elijah talks about the pre war tec and theres more history behide the securitrons that Mr. house hints at though out working with him. Needless to say BoS needs a bigger part in FONV :tops:

No, they don't.
They've been in every Fallout game.
Fallout 1 they were avoidable but they were one of the bigger factions in the game.
Fallout 2 they had presence but not a lot to do.
Tactics revolves around them.
The Burned Game revolves around them.
Fallout 3 you're forced to team up with them.
In New Vegas you're forced to deal with them 3 out of 4 paths.
The pitt, O:A and Broken Steel had ties to them.
And Dead Money had ties to them.

They really don't need "anything"... At all..

i derive great amusemant from watching people lay out their own opinions as gospel and then following the argument that ensues :hubbahubba:

I didnt mean they play a small part as far as the history of fallout im talking about how far the quests go you can basically join them the first time you enter hiddan vally

I preffer more attention to others faction rather then seeing again the same faction having mayor roles again

No the western bos are small for a reason..........they r dumb. They do not have enough men to do anything, because they never recruted.

They can t make a continuation of and faction in the game, because there were 45 different ways to deal with them. A lot of real fo fans killed the bos, because they know what the western bos r really all about.

Elijha was a deserter. He left when they needed him most. I don t think bos sees him as bos after he left them high and dry.

The dlcs can not continue any faction, becausd there are too many endings for everyone of them. May be the bos has other bunkers. The loading screen does use "bunkers around the mw" in plural, but that does not mean they we have to have a dlc about another group hiding in a hole. They don t want to die at this point in the west.

They need to change thier ways or die. The fate of the western bos should be in a whole game not a dlc.

The original fo story line can not be butchered in a dlc. They will not do it.

I am with gabriel77dan on this. I am burned out on the Brotherhood. I am not that happy that we have to deal with the BoS, 3 out of 4 paths.

Only Brotherhood that would intrest me would be the Midwestern Brotherhood and it would be stupid for them to show up in a DLC :shifty:

Legion need a DLC.

Out if all the factions in the game the BoS should be the last to get a DLC.

This

You only do work for them at first. You can not be a member until u help them by completing several suicide missions. Just like the fist fo.. You need to at least read about fo lore an canon before you can try to debate real fo fans who have played fo since thd early 90s. They than waited an looked stuff up for like 14 years before fo3 came out.

There is about a 20 year old story that can not be destroyed in a dlc.

How can Legion have a dlc????? Did they win lose???? is Ceaser alive or dead. None these factions can have a dlc because of 56 possible ending senerios. How could they even make me feel like I should be in Legion territory, unless I am there to kill everything that walks or crawls. They are my main character s enemy. He s not interested in see how they work. He s interested in destroying them so I never have to see or here from them again.

The dlcs can not be based on any faction. They can not be.

Only another game after nv is canon can we see what is going on.

The Legion DLC would take place under the game in Arizona.
It's not a continuation DLC we're talking about.
Just a DLC where we travel to a Legion town/city/area and get a better grip of lore about them.

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I never cared for the BOS. I would rather they expand on their new faction that they didn't give enough showtime to them.

BOS have been around for awhile. I'd like a long break from them.

Gabe, my main character knows all he needs to know about them. He doesn t want to know about them, he wants to kill them. He sitting there right now at level 35 with mini guns, gattling laser cannons, fat man, Mercy, a devastating prototype telsa cannon, r45d pa. If he goes to Legion territory he will kill everything. He hated them as soon as he saw nipton. That is all he needed to know about them. A writer can not "flesh out" cl lore at this point. They should have done it in the main game or they ll have to wait till this story is canon and go from there.

My cl guy would love to go hang with the cl, but peoples characters r already set its too late to learn more about them.

They failed to flesh out Legion enough.
Why so many are against Legion is because all we see is them in warfare.
We see nothing of their civilized lands to get a good idea of how Legion actually is.
This is why Legion needs a DLC.
Even though you may hate them you might end up liking them or at least respecting them with the DLC.
Point is that a DLC is needed for Legion as the VS arguments get ridiculous as we Legion fans only have their long term plan and speculation to go on.
And hey, look at it this way, if you still hate them then you get more legionnaires to kill.

Sorry if you dont like them. but we the Legion fans want more about them, like BOS and Enclave fans want more about their beloved factions

Because your character doesn't want to explore the Legion more doesn't mean other characters don't want to.

But more focus on Legion please, the BOS are a dying faction.

This is a buzzkill hahha....people like the BoS. Why do you hate that? I would love 2 platoons to appear at Hoover Dam, rather than 3 paladins.

P.S. Somehow, all 3 Paladins somehow survived above %50 health, and were extremely helpful.

If he doesn't want to focus on the Legion who says he has too? My two fav. playthrough's (I've made many for the Major factions and due to a mod that let's you start somewhere within large and small factions) I'm doing an BoS/NCR playthrough, in which I hunt down every legion npc I can possibly find in the game Me---> :flamethrower: Legion ------> bliviongate: :fallout:

Dude, don't get me wrong, I'd love to have had the choice to bring BOS to rule New Vegas and the Mojave but do I want them to spend time, resources and money on a DLC for it? Hell no.
There's no point to it.
The BOS were designed as they were in Vegas and should not be changed.
They can't fight off both the NCR and Legion while still holding Vegas and the dam, they have too few people left for it.
Just makes no sense for them.

And I frankly don't care how much some people like them, they've been in every game and 4 out of 7 DLC's.
They do not need another one.

I don't thinking basing games with no choice like on Fallout 3 is proper any more. Leaving them out of a game (unless the game was like...in washington state or maine) is improper. The Brotherhood WAS and in some parts still are a dominating faction. I personally think that they belong in almost every part in the US except for the canyon area of arizona, idaho area, and the very rims of the states.

They aren't that big.
They are in fact dying out.

The only place where the Brotherhood have any sort of power is Chicago, and they are isolationists even towards other BoS members. They had their ass handed to them in the West, they're weak and have splintered off into two groups in the East. The BoS are in the same boat as the Enclave, they're basically remiants of a former glory.

WELL GREAT THEN!! I live right near Chicago! I feel safer if we ever have a nuclear apocalypse and we recover sooner than we thought. Then I enlist, then I die miserably from a behemoth. :brokencomputer:

Have you played Tactics? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtXhuaTcohY

The EBoS is the most powerful faction in the Capital Wasteland post FO3/BS. Smashing the Enclave and distributing water, as well as keeping the area from being completely overrun by the Super-Mutants over the years has built them a reservoir of goodwill with the people the WBoS doesn't have. Losing the Outcasts certainly hurt, but they are actively recruiting Wastelanders and can turn thier victory over the Enclave something that in the long run makes them far stronger. I suspect the long term result would be a government forms in the CW under the protection and guidance of the EBoS, which is ultimately absorbed by the Gov't as it's Army. While the BoS ceases to exist as a separate entity...except for a Veteran's organization for those who had been in it like the GAR perhaps.....but it does not die, it becomes part of a new State, and transmits it's values, traditions, ect. to it. Lyons and the Lone Wanderer would be venerated as the Founding Fathers of a new country.