BoS Mecha : Fallout Series Discussion

» Sat May 28, 2011 11:04 am

Ok, this has gone on long enough. This is way off topic.

WE CAN ALL AGREE THEY DID SOME ILLOGICAL THINGS IN FALLOUT, LETS NOT SIT HERE AND DISCUSS THE ROBOT, OR HOW EVEN WHEN YOU BECOME A PALADIN THEY CALL YOU OUTSIDER, OR HOW SOMEHOW JAMES CONVINCED VAULT 101 PEOPLE TO LET HIM IN THROUGH A 3 FEET THICK STEEL WALL, OR HOW THE BOS GOT ALL THE WAY TO THE EAST COAST, OR HOW THE POWER ARMOR THE ENCLAVE USES NOW IS PRACTICALLY WORTHLESS.

THE GAME, WAS NOT, CORRECT. WE GET IT!

Apologies for the caps everyone.

But lets steer this thread on track ok?

» Sat May 28, 2011 8:00 pm

Topics drift like lazy eyeballs on internet forums mah boy.

» Sat May 28, 2011 9:20 am

Mah boi! this thread is what all true trolls strive for!

» Sat May 28, 2011 10:18 am

The movies was good in their own merits, but its an insult to the original anime and the comics

That sums up Fallout 3.

» Sat May 28, 2011 7:21 pm

That was a cheap shot.

» Sat May 28, 2011 5:47 pm

Mah boi! this thread is what all true trolls strive for!

:nope:

I didnt make it for trolls
I made it so BoS fans could have a reason to like them agien. after how they relied on liberty prime lots of BoS fans hated them but with this the fans could come back
the mechas are strong big and deadly just like the BoS use to be and sould still be. The mecha speaks BoS and we all know given the chance they would use it. So would you rather have a robot that speaks catchy one liners that fights for the BoS or A BoS general riding inside a robotic walking machine using it like a horse or giant suit of armor to fight.
I think we all know the right choice. :tops:

now its time for war :gun:

» Sat May 28, 2011 1:50 pm

This should have been put in fan fiction either way.

» Sat May 28, 2011 5:00 am

I think most "fans" of BoS don't like the East coast chapter in the first place.....

» Sat May 28, 2011 5:03 pm

That sums up Fallout 3.

Fallout 3: "Well excuuuuuuse me, Styles, I only sparked colossal interest in a old '90s RPG and gave it new life."

But in all seriousness the more I visit forums, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyHTTMkq5RE&feature=related#t=12m59s

» Sat May 28, 2011 5:21 pm

Exactly and that stupid bald [censored] Paladin Gunny still has the gall to call the Enclave cowards for shooting civies or hiding in bunkers... bettter than sitting back like the hypocritical pricks that they are and letting the implausable robot do all the work.

As if the BoS couldn't get any more bad rep, they had to put a [censored] robot to back them up, kinda back fired if you know what I mean.

» Sat May 28, 2011 9:03 am

It's kinda funny how people are saying a giant robot doesn't belong in a universe with things like power armor giant ants, laser and plasma rifles, ufo's, space based artillery, and etc. It's not like it was perfect either it was eventually destroyed by the Enclave.

» Sat May 28, 2011 8:31 pm

Fallout 3: "Well excuuuuuuse me, Styles, I only sparked colossal interest in a old '90s RPG and gave it new life."

But in all seriousness the more I visit forums, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyHTTMkq5RE&feature=related#t=12m59s

If only Fallout 3 was something like the olders Fallouts :sadvaultboy:

» Sat May 28, 2011 1:02 pm

It's kinda funny how people are saying a giant robot doesn't belong in a universe with things like power armor giant ants, laser and plasma rifles, ufo's, space based artillery, and etc. It's not like it was perfect either it was eventually destroyed by the Enclave.

Generally that's where the line Fallout 1/2 and Fallout 3 is and where alot of inconsistancies lie.

With Fallout 1 and 2 Energy Weapons and Power Armor were crude and were essentially just being introduce. For instance, the Laser Rifle. The Laser Rifle was essentially a portible industrial laser, and it was hard to find.

With Fallout 3 there's a stark contrast. Fallout 3's Laser Rifle was specifically designed for military purposes and was fairly common.

» Sat May 28, 2011 4:39 am

Yeah well apart from the name, factions, creatures and all that jazz it was totally different and shocking to older fans, I mean THERE ARE NO FARMS THE HUMANITY!

» Sat May 28, 2011 4:20 pm

Generally that's where the line Fallout 1/2 and Fallout 3 is and where alot of inconsistancies lie.

With Fallout 1 and 2 Energy Weapons and Power Armor were crude and were essentially just being introduce. For instance, the Laser Rifle. The Laser Rifle was essentially a portible industrial laser, and it was hard to find.

With Fallout 3 there's a stark contrast. Fallout 3's Laser Rifle was specifically designed for military purposes and was fairly common.

Think of it this way, DC is the capital, wouldn't they have more military things there? I mean, the brotherhood of steel had a very large base there, although it was minor in fallout 2. Few bunkers here and there.. Whatever...

I think what they aimed for was ungodding the power armor. In fallout 2, most enemies couldnt hit you for more than 10 hp with Advanced Power Armor, and all you had to do to GET that armor, was walk past 2 guards who just totally let you in, then take it from a locker.

I don't like the hostility aimed towards F3, F1 and F2 did weird things, but them being the first games made them 'canon'

» Sat May 28, 2011 5:15 am

Its called 'the good ol' days effect'. It's what prevents people from realising Duran Duran was rubbish and that the first three Star Wars films had some really cheesy dialogue and ripped off just about everything from Dambusters to Flash Gordon.

» Sat May 28, 2011 7:49 am

The funny thing is, is that I played Fallout 2 only 5 years ago. So in respects, it's not too far in my past.

» Sat May 28, 2011 7:17 am

The funny thing is, is that I played Fallout 2 only 5 days ago. So in respects, it's not even in my past.

» Sat May 28, 2011 3:24 pm

Funny thing is, that we are derailing the thread

» Sat May 28, 2011 4:01 pm

BoS doesn't really build anything besides (maybe) guns, they scavenge things, preserve things, and repair things.

» Sat May 28, 2011 10:15 am

It's kinda funny how people are saying a giant robot doesn't belong in a universe with things like power armor giant ants, laser and plasma rifles, ufo's, space based artillery, and etc. It's not like it was perfect either it was eventually destroyed by the Enclave.

My issues with Optimus have nothing to do with it not belonging in Fallout. My issues are with the writing, and its role in the game.

We are told it never worked. Pre-War USA military and Mr.House could not get it to work. Yet Lyons some how managed. There is no quest to help get it to work. Yet it was clear to me that it will play a big part after I am railroaded into helping the BoS. Then Lyons gets it to work and it does all the work in the final "EPIC" battle. If it worked Pre-War it would have been in China.

Broken Steel destroys it with a space weapon they did not have until after the Rock gets blown up and they lose the purifier. Then we are told that they can fix it with flash bulbs and sensor modules.

That is why I give Optimus Prime a thumbs down :thumbsdown:

» Sat May 28, 2011 11:11 am

My issues with Optimus have nothing to do with it not belonging in Fallout. My issues are with the writing, and its role in the game.

We are told it never worked. Pre-War USA military and Mr.House could not get it to work. Yet Lyons some how managed. There is no quest to help get it to work. Yet it was clear to me that it will play a big part after I am railroaded into helping the BoS. Then Lyons gets it to work and it does all the work in the final "EPIC" battle. If it worked Pre-War it would have been in China.

Broken Steel destroys it with a space weapon they did not have until after the Rock gets blown up and they lose the purifier. Then we are told that they can fix it with flash bulbs and sensor modules.

That is why I give Optimus Prime a thumbs down :thumbsdown:

+1
This says it better than i could ever hope to.

» Sat May 28, 2011 10:55 am

Ok, so back to the mecha. The closest we've gotten to a mecha is the http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Sentry_Bot_%28Fallout_2%29 in it's looks from Fallout 2, and http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080118180317/fallout/images/9/95/Barnaky_Bot_FoT.jpg they put his brain into in Fallout Tactics... which kinda reminds me of Dreadnoughts from WH40k.

Either way, I wouldn't like mechas because... I dunno, I just don't feel them fitting. Robots that YOU control? The thing with the SCIENCE! 50's was that there were robots programmed to do things for you (and only do what they are programmed to, I like the protectrons, they are so crude and simple somehow, like the ones found in the Metro asking you for your ticket, not realising something is wrong). And I also see mechas as something more fitting in much more advanced sci-fi (I see Fallout as ancient sci-fi or how I should describe it, where all the tech isn't really that good or in early stages even before the war and now is really old) like Avatar, WH40k, StarCraft etc. Although I see WH40k and StarCraft 1 as "dirty sci-fi" - everything's gritty and it's still crude, just more advanced and common.

» Sat May 28, 2011 5:52 pm

Indeed, Mecha definitely is not part of "retro-future" sci fi.

» Sat May 28, 2011 8:51 pm

I like the protectrons, they are so crude and simple somehow, like the ones found in the Metro asking you for your ticket, not realising something is wrong).

Metro protectrons=win ("METRO CENTRAL NOT RESPONDING!!!")

Actually protectrons in general are awesome, they're probably my favorite robots.