So... Bosmer can shape-shift into animals and water(?), and go berserk?

Second question:

I need a better explanation of the Hunt. What exactly is it? From the quote, all I can tell it's Bosmer that went "native", yet this mindless rampage is somehow directed after those who 'violate' their laws? By whom? Every monster in the world... what exactly does that mean? Ogres and trolls are Bosmer?

It's another reason to terribly dislike Bosmer for existing. Now, they'll not only eat your family, but they'll burn down the entire city as well.

This question has been asked so many times...

The Wild Hunt is essentially a ritual of the Bosmeri culture, appealing to Y'ffre. While they could (in theory) shift into animal forms without the wild hunt, those forms would be temporary, draining to maintain, and likely take on the characteristics of their new form. And they would be able to change back.

The Wild Hunt is a little different. Y'ffre helped make the Earth Bones, so the Bosmer claim, to lock the spirits of Mundus into certain material forms; before then the inhabitants of Mundus changed forms on a whim and chaos was constant. Y'ffre brought order and continuity to Mundus, so-to-speak. Which partly makes me wonder if he is the Bosmeri equivalent of Lorkhan, but that is a different subject.

Now, the Wild Hunt is a ritual, yes. The result is rather drastic and what follows is just my opinion on it. Those Bosmer who participate surrender their mortal shell to Y'ffre, whose power ends up morphing them. They end up taking feral, animalistic forms, and essentially become like the spirits of Mundus before the Earth Bones. They constantly shift and change, taking one form and then another and then another. Each hideous, each deformed, mixes of animals of the world onto one being. This constant transformation likely is painful, and would drive them into a feral rage at the chaotic nature of their body and mind. Wanton and uncontrolled, the monstrosities rush forth from the ritual ring of the Wild Hunt ritual, devouring and rauaging anything in their path.

A rather effective war machine, as their numbers are great and they constantly change forms. The Wild Hunt will continue unabated until it hits an immovable object, like a chasm wall for instance in Dance in Fire. Read that book series for an example of a Wild Hunt. Eventually the feral rage of the Hunt participants will subside, but their ability to transform will leave them as well, and they are forever trapped in their form; forever 'wild'.

All monstrosities trace their lineage back to a Bosmer participant of the Hunt. Minotaur, Centuar, Cliff Racer, Dragon, Trolls, whatever. Anything that isn't entirely natural (maybe even Werebeasts?) may have likely come about from the breeding of two similar monsters of the Wild Hunt in it's aftermath. (This is taking the above quote literally)

But the above quotation could also have another meaning; all monsters of the world make an appearance in the Wild Hunt. This is more a stretch than the first theory, I think, but still possible.

Thank you for the clarification. So Y'ffre... Any relation to Jephre in the OOO mod? The pronunciation is very similar, and the corrupted followers are also Bosmer (I think) The ones hunting them, also Bosmer. And the powers you get after completing the quest allow you to gain animal summons. You said he MAY be another aspect of Lorkhan: Was this never explained? Or is he just another "local" god of the culture?

He is never mentioned outside of the Bosmeri culture, so far as I know. Y'ffre=Lorkhan is just an idea I though up randomly without any real study yet.

So far as I know, Jephre may be related to Y'ffre, but being an OOO mod character, he is not Lore anyways, so it is irrelevant.

I'm pretty sure that Y'ffre is not Lorkhan, but just one of the Earth-Bones. He is closely connected to nature, which is the reason the Bosmer worship him. And the Bosmer would not worship a version of Lorkhan, as they hold the merish belief of Auri-el, and have beliefs that are pretty close to the Altmer beliefs, but much more venerating of nature.

Jephre, Y'ffre. Same difference. Descriptions of Jephre from http://www.imperial-library.info/dfbooks/b073_jephre.shtml coincide with Y'ffre's. He's one of the most revered woodland gods in Valenwood, but Bretons and High Elves acknowledge his existence as well.

Ah, so he IS game lore then...

I so need to play Daggerfall...

Anyways, yeah, the Lorkhan Y'ffre was an idea, and little more.

The ones in bold didn't:

Minotaur = Alessia + Morihaus
Dragon = Akaviri equivalent to the Hist.
Troll = Boethia's dingleberries
Werebeasts...well Hircine made them.

Not every mosnter was spawned by the wild hunt. Many, but not all. Dreugh, for example, were spawned from shapeshifiting Aldmer water-commandos that fought a war with the Sload on their home turf. They eventually lost the ability to change back into elves.

Someone here in the lore forums made a awesome picture of the wild hunt. If anybody knows the one I'm talking about, they could post it so the op could have a look at it.

I think remember seeing some kind of picture about the Wild Hunt. From what I vaguely remember, there were lots of anthropic animals, and animals in general, except with skull heads, sharp teeth, and the look of the desire to kill. Heck, I think I remember seeing a deer-like creature in there, and it was like RAWR!!!.

Do you mean http://www.maj.com/gallery/Lutemoth/munsters/Valenwood/kiergo.jpg

But it is just a speculation? As we know that their son was half man half bull, but it is mention nowhere in the game that there is connection between him and Mnotaurs, isn't it?

Oh really?

Oh really?

I thought Dragons of Akavir were EATEN, or some other way gone and dead. But what about Tamrielic Dragons? Is the Dragon from Redguard related to the Akavir at all?

This is the reason, though, why I think the Bosmer who spoke instead meant that every monster of the world is born in the Hunt, that every Monster of Tamriel plays a part in the Hunt. And some trace their lineage to it directly, but most just APPEAR in it.

Yep

Just 'cause?

That's the big question. In the Akaviri myth the dragons play the same role as the "giants" of Atmoran myth, the Hist of Argonian tales, the ancestor-gods of the Elves etc etc. All really hold the same capacity and all are representation or forms of the gods when they were first transformed into mortals.



That seems more likely. Just beacuse a Bosmer may turn into a dragon or Minotaur form during the hunt does not mean the creatures origins are within it.



I read it somewhere, and if you think about it it just makes sense. Human woman + demi-god bull = magically power human/bull hybrid.

I want to read it somewhere too, because it makes sense too easily. You don't need to think about it. It makes too much sense where divine bull-on-woman six is concerned.