i read all this lore on the bosmer and they sound like cunning quick savages with an equally strange culture full of ancient and to the casual observer disturbing traditions. but then i see them in oblivion and the only tolerable bosmer are cingor brodras and the guy who runs the archers paradox in bravil. whats up with that? do all bosmer except a few have to have some amusing quirk about them?

Its been a running joke starting with Morrowind. I don't care one way or the other about bosmer since I don't play them, but I hate it when any world setting reduces a race to the status of joke. It was my biggest beef with Peter Jackson's LotR movies, that Gimli (and by extension all dwarves) was pretty consistantly cast as comic relief.

I really hope they stop the trend of Bosmer being comic relief, they should be my favorite race, but instead I never play them :sadvaultboy:

Well, they want to make races more unique and true to their lore so perhaps they'll be the cunning, black-eyes savages they're supposed to!

The only thing that I want included in the game that explicitly concerns Bosmer is Fargoth's great great grandkid or something and he too lost a ring.

dont let it stop you for me making Feramor my bosmer assassin was my best decision ever

Bosmers may be a joke. But if you make a Bosmer character that saves the world; then whats the problem? I think Bosmers are fun to play on just because there the EXTREME underdog.

i know underdogging can be very satisfying (like my orc battlemage Shorn-gro-burl who became arch mage) but a whole race with the exception of 3 people? at least make a few more cool bosmer

After reading about them I started off playing as a bosmer. Unfortunately, their ingame appearances are completely different. Instead of expert hunters they're a joke race.

That's all the cool Bosmer who live in Valenwood. The ones you see in Cyrodiil and Morrowind are the weirdos that got kicked out of the clubhouse.

In all seriousness, they were far from the only comic relief in either game -- just look at Crassius Curio and Lord Rugdumph -- but it's worth noting that the ones who weren't goofy or annoying or bland were pretty [censored] scary. Laugh at Glarthir if you will for being so crazy, but bear in mind that he was "murder people with an axe for waving casually at you" crazy. The Bosmer are weird, and they should be. Each race has its idealized stereotype. The Altmer is a haughty but well-disciplined and powerful mage. The Nord is a hardy and down-to-earth fellow who's none too bright and eager for violence. The Imperial is smooth and silver-tongued, smiling broadly and warmly as he shakes your hand with a knife behind his back. The Bosmer? He just sort of makes everyone feel uncomfortable simply by being in the room. An unparalleled marksman wise in the way of the forest who you turn around to find staring unabashedly at you, casually sharpening his knife by the campfire. He seems harmlessly eccentric, making a fuss about which color plate his food has to be on, and he hasn't said or done anything to make you feel threatened but simply having him around makes you want to sleep with one eye open. That's precisely the sort of Bosmer I want to see in Skyrim.

Agreed. though i Always play the Wood Elf anyway, and make him a Badass Archer/Tracker like they're supposed to be.

People always underestimate certain races and peoples.....But remember NEVER to underestimate a http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FF0oawJjHus&feature=related

They need to give them a bad-ass voice for once

Yes....the "Flaming Gay" approach with the Wood Elves dosent work for me.

I VERY much would prefer if the Bethesda team would take some lessons from J.R.R Tolken on how
to create a Badass Wood Elf

To be fair, a braindead heavy armor-wearing Nord who never casts a single spell in the entire game can become the Archmage in Oblivion without too much effort. They even give you scrolls to use on that stupid pillar.

What people don't seem to get is that the "lore" descriptions of Bosmer are describing the Bosmer of Valenwood. The Bosmer of Valenwood and the Bosmer of everywhere-else-we've-been are completely different. Same goes for Altmer and Dunmer. When they're in their home province, they're at their extreme. You can bet Valenwood isn't full of silly wacky gimmicky Bosmer. It's full of serious cannibalistic taboo-ridden animalistic mer.

But this isn't Valenwood. This is Skyrim. Prepare to laugh at the wacky Bosmer.

:lol: I just got the image in my head of the Bosmeri government turfing out all the annoying Bosmer

I HATED that :flame:

I love Bosmer! Their lore is awesome and I have made some pretty badassed Bosmer characters. When I read the Pocket Guide to the Empire description of the Wood Elves, they seemed be on the line between creepy cannibals and silly, care-free halflings (wearing wagon wheels on their heads). It's an interesting take on a fantasy race and I hope to meet many interesting Bosmer characters in Skyrim.

I hope they bring back the option of the pitch black eyes, loved that lol

All I know about the Bosmer in Skyrim is... haa haa short...

Among the other mods I use when I play Oblivion (not much now) is one that reshapes their faces and gives them all black eyes. I've also excised anime-style ears from a Japanese mod for them and them alone, just to make them more distinct, which works great alongside a mod that I found that gives the Dunmer those crescent-shaped ears they had in Morrowind. I hope those are back for Skyrim, by the way.

how about something like this? (with a little more clothing of course)

http://mortal.ville-hinkka.com/wp-content/gallery/races/ForestElf.jpg

Definitely, that's about as close to my vision of Bosmer as I've come across.

Apart from the rainforest setting that's pretty much exactly what the Bosmer are like in Valenwood. Yes, clothing included.

Whoa cool a wood elf that doesn't look like a walking joke