Bosmerian Rituals

Post » Tue Jan 11, 2011 10:18 am

"Then the sillhouete turned around, with blood flowing down his chin and a crazed look in his eye. It was....a BOSMER!"
The other I can think of is the Bosmeri tendency to cannibalize their own people for ritualistic purposes.

What ritual would they do that for and what is its outcome?
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Post » Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:45 pm

"Then the sillhouete turned around, with blood flowing down his chin and a crazed look in his eye. It was....a BOSMER!"

What ritual would they do that for and what is its outcome?


Not just their own people; because of the Meat Mandate, they can't eat plant products, only meat; and they are required to consume every enemy they kill:

"They are exclusively and religiously carnivorous. They cannot, or will not, eat anything that is plant-based. They eat game, beastfolk, each other, or meats imported from other regions. This part of the Green Pact is known as the Meat Mandate, and, among its other rules, it requires that a fallen enemy must be eaten completely before three days pass. The family members of the warrior that slew the enemy may help him with his meal. Needless to say, the Wood Elves do not like to engage in large battles if they have not undergone a suitable starvation period."

From "The Pocket Guide to Empire" http://til.gamingsource.net/pge/aldmeridominion.shtml
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Post » Tue Jan 11, 2011 6:09 am

They would start off with a rich honey glaze i suppose and let them roast for several hours until the meat was nice and juicy.
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Post » Tue Jan 11, 2011 11:12 am

They would start off with a rich honey glaze i suppose and let them roast for several hours until the meat was nice and juicy.




Hmmm.. Honey..............

Is this not a plant product, just processed by bees? What would be its edibility under the green pact?
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Post » Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:56 am

Hmmm.. Honey..............

Is this not a plant product, just processed by bees? What would be its edibility under the green pact?

I have no idea,Being that i was just joking.But correct me if im wrong which more then likely i am.I thought the Bosmer just couldnt eat any plant life out of their forest but plants from other Provinces was ok.
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Post » Tue Jan 11, 2011 3:54 am

I have no idea,Being that i was just joking.But correct me if im wrong which more then likely i am.I thought the Bosmer just couldnt eat any plant life out of their forest but plants from other Provinces was ok.



Nope!! NO PLANTS AT ALL. (Probably why they are so stunted, if you ask me.)

Technically, all those Bosmer players eating marshmerrow are in violation of the Greenpact.
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Post » Tue Jan 11, 2011 7:06 am

Hmmm.. Honey..............

Is this not a plant product, just processed by bees? What would be its edibility under the green pact?

Beasts of the field eat of plants to grow and live, in a sense are they not a product of plants? Does that in turn forbid them from being devoured by the Bosmer?
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Post » Tue Jan 11, 2011 5:50 am

What happens if a Bosmer breaks that pact?Because i remember reading in a book called "The Read Gaurd" i think. Of a bosmer trapped in a castle that ate moss and apples.Both which are plant based marterial.Are they shunned by other Bosmer or something?
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Post » Tue Jan 11, 2011 3:41 am

Beasts of the field eat of plants to grow and live, in a sense are they not a product of plants? Does that in turn forbid them from being devoured by the Bosmer?


But honey isnt bee. Honey is nectar, mixed with bee enzymes.

I would think it to be inedible under green pact terms-- Simmilarly to how wine and flinn are inedible, and the local alcoholic brew is made from rotten milk.
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Post » Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:02 pm

But honey isnt bee. Honey is nectar, mixed with bee enzymes.

I would think it to be inedible under green pact terms-- Simmilarly to how wine and flinn are inedible, and the local alcoholic brew is made from rotten milk.

Nothing like a mouthfull of rotten milk to help you relax and to forget the troubles of the day. :sick:
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Post » Tue Jan 11, 2011 3:12 am

"before we begin, would it be too much to ask if your light infantry roll in this basin of marinade?"
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Post » Tue Jan 11, 2011 3:49 am

A racial joke:

An Imperial walks down the road and finds a freshly killed body. He yells "Someone's been murdered! What a travesty! Call the guards!"

A Bosmer walks down the road, and finds said corpse. He yells" Someone's been murdered! We're eating dinner tonight!"
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Post » Tue Jan 11, 2011 1:32 am

"They are exclusively and religiously carnivorous. They cannot, or will not, eat anything that is plant-based. They eat game, beastfolk, each other, or meats imported from other regions.

Makes me NOT want to play Bosmer anymore :glare: :sick: .

This part of the Green Pact is known as the Meat Mandate, and, among its other rules, it requires that a fallen enemy must be eaten completely before three days pass.

Thats answears the question why the coprses disspear after 3 game days, :rofl: .

The family members of the warrior that slew the enemy may help him with his meal.

And what if the warrior is an orphan and he killed 3 foes?

Needless to say, the Wood Elves do not like to engage in large battles if they have not undergone a suitable starvation period."

Yet, they readilty charge at you when you taunt them, regardless of when they ate last :eek: .

Very, very interesting :nope: race of mer they are :rolleyes: .
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Post » Tue Jan 11, 2011 8:19 am

really i think that Bosmer are just feeling the call of the Wild... as beast-folk feel nature more readily in their hides, Bosmer are in tune with nature more so than most Mer... and since their super-duperness with bows they have killed many of the super-predators in Valenwood... and thus they themselves have come to fulfill that niche... as lil' arboreal cannibal elves... it doesn't get better than that... and also add the fact when they get hysterically desperate they turn into the super-duper nightmarish uber-predators they hunted back in the day... when Y'ffre ate apples out of roasted pigs' mouths...

sorry guys, i kinda went off in an odd direction... could be true though

I got a feeling feasting rituals are there though, like depending on the foe... Imga are not exactyl enemies bu they've had their conflicts, same with Khajiit... but then an Imperial might be a different story, etc.
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Post » Tue Jan 11, 2011 11:11 am

I have one thing to say about bosmers and cannibalism


The adoring fan only hangs out wiht you becasue he wants to eat you.
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Post » Tue Jan 11, 2011 5:25 am

Good thing my Bosmer characters are all disaffected exiles and misfits who think the Green Pact isn't worth a manky Khajiit's scrotum, or else I'd have to come up with some inventive ways to roleplay severely overweight heroes, what with all the slaughter and butchery that is part and parcel of my TES gaming.

Seriously though, I think it's reasonable to overlook the Green Pact for RP gaming for basically that reason - you're not in Valenwood, and so 'heretical' outcasts or misfits would likely end up making a living in other Provinces. Morrowind and Cyrodiil would both be attractive choices for a wayward Bosmer, since the former is so far away from Valenwood and the latter is the opportunity-filled heart of the Empire.
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Post » Tue Jan 11, 2011 11:20 am

I have one thing to say about bosmers and cannibalism
The adoring fan only hangs out wiht you becasue he wants to eat you.


oh my Dibella... The Dark Lich is right... holy crap...

they should have a mod that adds a sequence that whever you are killed, before the screen comes up a small clip plays with the Adoring Fan doing the vampiric blood svcking animation except it looks like he;s eating you :D
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Post » Tue Jan 11, 2011 7:36 am

I will never role play a bosmer the same way again...
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Post » Mon Jan 10, 2011 9:50 pm

I have one thing to say about bosmers and cannibalism
The adoring fan only hangs out wiht you becasue he wants to eat you.

Maybe :P Personally i say he's just some obsessed devoted Elder Scrolls fan idiot.
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Post » Tue Jan 11, 2011 10:41 am

"And we ate it to become it"...



*cough*



:EDIT:

I did not mean to Necro-Thread! I'm sorry! This came up in a search and I did not realize how old it was. I apologize most quickly, and beg mercy. Last time, there was TOO MUCH CHEESE!
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Post » Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:49 pm

Well, might as well re-necro it ;)

Nope!! NO PLANTS AT ALL. (Probably why they are so stunted, if you ask me.)

Technically, all those Bosmer players eating marshmerrow are in violation of the Greenpact.


Really? In violation to Bosmer culture, sure, but the Green Pact is specifically with the Valenwood Forrest. Hence why the Bosmer also import wood from elsewhere.

And if enough Bosmer violate the pact, Jeffre might strike them with instability again, who knows?
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Post » Tue Jan 11, 2011 10:31 am

Nope!! NO PLANTS AT ALL. (Probably why they are so stunted, if you ask me.)

Technically, all those Bosmer players eating marshmerrow are in violation of the Greenpact.


so if a bosmer decides to make his own potions and then drinks them, hes breaking the pact?

what if the Bosmer is not in Valenwood? what if hes/shes in Morrowind or Cyrodill or any other province?
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Post » Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:27 pm

what if the Bosmer is not in Valenwood? what if hes/shes in Morrowind or Cyrodill or any other province?


Then they've likely been culturally assimilated by the Imperials, and no longer follow the meat mandate.

Besides there seems to be some disagreement on whether the Green Pact applies only to Valenwood or not (I always assumed that it applied to all plant-based material from anywhere, but I don't recall if the Pocket Guide ever explicitly states that.)
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Post » Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:56 am

Susano is correct. There was a fair bit of mistaken Lore spread about on the subject but the original and more recent books have been checked and that has been sorted out in several more recent threads. It seems that the Bosmer belief is they agreed not to harm the Trees and vegetation of Valenwood - eating it should come under that heading. That was the deal with Yffre for his patronage and blessing on their presence in Valenwood

For example you might read Dance in the Fire and ask yourself how Decumus Scottii could be arranging contracts to rebuild the burned-out towns and villages of the Bosmer/Khajiit 5yr war. Without wood he would not have got very far. His succeess lasted beyond the telling of that tale - he then went on to Black Marshes - appointed to that because of that success as you can read in the Argonian Experience.

It's something I went into when I was writing my own stuff on Valenwood.

Ps in my own personal writings there are different factions of Bosmer that have different takes on the matter and I elaborated a more developed rational
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Post » Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:15 am

OK, what of the concept that a bosmer may use plant based products made by other races? I've heard this idea put forth but the answers are always conflicting. If an Imperial cut down a tree and made a bow out of it, would it be ok for a pact following bosmer to use? What about food, for example fruit harvested in Valenwood by imperials? May bosmer eat that?
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