[RELz] BOSS - Better Oblivion Sorting Software : IV - Oblivion

» Sat May 14, 2011 5:09 pm

I updated BOSS to 1.62 and it added many additional tags to Unofficial patches. Is it normal= I've started to see Unofficial Oblivion Patch in many new sections while rebuilding my Bashed Patch.

By the way,

Unknown mod file: http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=oblivionmods.detail&id=3099

Unknown mod file: http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=oblivionmods.detail&id=3099

» Sat May 14, 2011 1:50 pm

I updated BOSS to 1.62 and it added many additional tags to Unofficial patches. Is it normal= I've started to see Unofficial Oblivion Patch in many new sections while rebuilding my Bashed Patch.

Yes it is normal. A fair amount of extra tags were created in recent additions of Wrye Bash, as well as added into the BOSS masterlist. That's all.

That is one serious list of tags for the Unofficials though isn't it? :lol:

» Sat May 14, 2011 7:06 am

I have now updated to 1.62. It seems to be working just fine.

» Sat May 14, 2011 4:00 am

Unknown mods:

added, thanks.

Unknown mod (an optional esp-file from it):

Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary Rebuilt.
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=21125
The unknown mod file is "DBSRebuiltCompleteFPS", and is available under Optional files.

added, thanks.

Just a reminder that ImpeREALForts+LostSpires Patch.esp master list order is...

The Lost Spires.esp
ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Forts.esp

BOSS currently places ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Forts.esp before The Lost Spires.esp

moved, thanks.

Unknown mod file: http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=oblivionmods.detail&id=3099

Unknown mod file: http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=oblivionmods.detail&id=3099

added, thanks.
Pacific Morrowind

» Sat May 14, 2011 12:30 pm

added, thanks.

Slof's Better Bodies.esp made it on to the new list, but I don't see the other 3?

» Sat May 14, 2011 4:21 pm

Slof's Better Bodies.esp made it on to the new list, but I don't see the other 3?

that would be becuase you edited your post after I'd clicked multi-quote, and reply and copied the text of your message but before I did the additions and reply. (also one got added as .es instead of .esp... fixed and a few old ones like that as well)... the rest of em added as well, thanks.
Pacific Morrowind

» Sat May 14, 2011 9:44 am

that would be becuase you edited your post after I'd clicked multi-quote, and reply and copied the text of your message but before I did the additions and reply. (also one got added as .es instead of .esp... fixed and a few old ones like that as well)... the rest of em added as well, thanks.
Pacific Morrowind

Oh, right. Because you hadn't replied at the time of my edit, I assumed you hadn't seen it yet. Many thanks for fixing.

» Sat May 14, 2011 6:39 am

sure, quick question first: do you have esp names for these:

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SG008 - Gee - http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=32191

SG010 - Attractive - http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=32599

SG011 - Seductive - http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=33407

SG012 - Moonlight - http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=33412

SG010 - Nazca - http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=33438

?... (rather than downloading those on my dialup)

Sorry missed this post. Incase you didn't get them yet.

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SG008_Gee.esp
SG010_Attractive.esp
SG011_Seductive.esp
SG012_MoonLight_Suit.esp
SG013_Nazca.esp
SG014_SparkleSweetSummer.esp

Edit: Have a few more unknowns to add:

Unknown mod file: xenia.esp
CM partner based on xenia race

Unknown mod file: Expanded Hotkeys and Spell Delete V2a.esp
OBSE plugin

Unknown mod file: Vampire Hideaway.esp
Adds a cave near Anvil

Unknown mod file: 1SBFingerArmor.esp
Glove armor that has to be added through console

Unknown mod file: BryntrollTheBoneArbitor.esp
Adds a set of axes to the place where you get Garridan's Tears

As far as I know these are all on Nexus

» Sat May 14, 2011 2:12 pm

Unrecogised Mod Files
Reorder these by hand using your favourite mod ordering utility.

Unknown mod file: DarknessHollows.esp

http://www.invision.tesalliance.org/forums/index.php?/files/file/659-darkness-hollows-tesas-2010-halloween-challenge/

» Sat May 14, 2011 5:45 pm

Sorry missed this post. Incase you didn't get them yet.

Spoiler

Edit: Have a few more unknowns to add:

added, and added, thanks.
Pacific Morrowind

» Sat May 14, 2011 6:05 pm

Unrecogised Mod Files
Reorder these by hand using your favourite mod ordering utility.

Unknown mod file: DarknessHollows.esp

http://www.invision.tesalliance.org/forums/index.php?/files/file/659-darkness-hollows-tesas-2010-halloween-challenge/

added, thanks.
(still trying to download that... over 100mb afterall (I'm waiting Shaw for you to get your line out here so I can drop this stupid dialup))
Pacific Morrowind

» Sat May 14, 2011 4:57 pm

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=28313 needs to be loaded after EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp, EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer for OOO.esp, EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4MMM.esp and EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4FCOM.esp otherwise some of the meshes will be overriden.

» Sat May 14, 2011 10:30 am

Got an odd thing happening with 1.6.2. It is sorting my little tweaks plugin, but I've haven't created a user rule yet! My plugin is called MyTweaks.esp (original, I know) and BOSS is sorting it instead of reporting it as unrecognized. I searched the masterlist and there's nothing called My Tweaks in the list.

Here's the log:

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Special Mod Detection

FCOM not detected.
OOO not detected.
Better Cities not detected.

Recognised And Re-ordered Mod Files

Oblivion.esm

* Note: Masterlist Revision: 1813

Kvatch Rebuilt.esm [Version 1.0]

bookplacing.esm [Version 1.2]

* Note: Make sure to upgrade to v2+; v1 has a severe bug with the Mystic Emporium dissappearing.

TNR ALL RACES FINAL.esp

* Note: Not need if use Cobl Races TNR.esp
* Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:NpcFaces,NoMerge}}

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.3.2]

* Note: Use Standalone MOBS if using Frans or OMOBS if using FCOM\OOO. Both versions can be found here: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=28537
* Note: Recommend installing UOP Supplemental for additional fixes: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=27710
* Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Actors.AIData,Actors.AIPackages,Actors.CombatStyle,Actors.DeathItem,Actors.Stats,C.Climate,C.Light,C.Music,C.Name,C.Owner,Creatures.Blood,Delev,Factions,Invent,Names,Relations,Relev,Scripts,Stats}} and remove the C.Water tag (only exist in older version).

Enhanced Water v2.0 HDMI.esp

* Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:C.Water}}

Book Jackets Oblivion - BP.esp

* Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Graphics}}

ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp

* Note: For use with Better Cities use 'ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp' instead.

RAEVWD Cities.esp [Version 1.8]

RAEVWD Imperial City.esp [Version 1.8]

Living Economy.esp [Version 3.62]

* Note: Don't use 'Living Economy' and 'Living Economy - SI' together. Pick one.

Living Economy - Items.esp [Version 3.62]

MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp

* Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Body-M}}

CM_Better Wine.esp

* Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Graphics,Deactivate}}

Darkgreen Glass Armour.esp

* Bashed Patch tag suggestion: May need to be tagged {{BASH:Graphics}} when using overhaul mods (e.g OOO).

FineWeapons.esp

* Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Graphics}}

RTFemaleReplacerV12.esp

* Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Graphics}} - De-activate

Slof's Horses Base.esp

* Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Graphics}}

Dude Wheres My Horse.esp

Ranokoas Organized Potions.esp

* Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Names,Deactivate}} If not using Wrye Bash load with overrides but then incompatible with most overhauls etc.

Amajor7 Imperial Furniture.esp [Version 1.0]

Imperial Furniture Renovated - Patch.esp

* Requires: Amajor7 Imperial Furniture.esp

BrotherhoodRenewed.esp [Version 1.0.9]

* Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Factions}}

Kvatch Rebuilt.esp [Version 1.0]

* Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Actors.AIPackages}}

Whispered Warning.esp

MyTweaks.esp

QuietFeet.esp

* Note: If not using Wrye Bash this will cause loss of some faction changes from KOTN; if you prefer the factions changes to the quiet feet for those creatures move thisa voe Knights.esp.

Bag of Holding.esp [Version 1.5.0]

Quest Award Leveller.esp [Version 2.1.0]

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Unrecogised Mod Files

Reorder these by hand using your favourite mod ordering utility.

Unknown mod file: encumbrancemodx50.esp

Done.

So have you guys added a special heuristic algorithm or something?

Edit: Created a user rule - it really does think MyTweaks.esp is in the masterlist, but if I do a search in the masterlist, it's not there... I'm searching the masterlist.txt file in Data\BOSS - there aren't any others are there? I am running TES4 manager, so I'll continue to search and see if something is up...

» Sat May 14, 2011 4:52 pm

Got an odd thing happening with 1.6.2. It is sorting my little tweaks plugin, but I've haven't created a user rule yet! My plugin is called My Tweaks.esp (original, I know) and BOSS is sorting it instead of reporting it as unrecognized. I searched the masterlist and there's nothing called My Tweaks in the list.

Here's the log:

Spoiler

Special Mod Detection

FCOM not detected.
OOO not detected.
Better Cities not detected.

Recognised And Re-ordered Mod Files

Oblivion.esm

* Note: Masterlist Revision: 1813

Kvatch Rebuilt.esm [Version 1.0]

bookplacing.esm [Version 1.2]

* Note: Make sure to upgrade to v2+; v1 has a severe bug with the Mystic Emporium dissappearing.

TNR ALL RACES FINAL.esp

* Note: Not need if use Cobl Races TNR.esp
* Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:NpcFaces,NoMerge}}

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.3.2]

* Note: Use Standalone MOBS if using Frans or OMOBS if using FCOM\OOO. Both versions can be found here: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=28537
* Note: Recommend installing UOP Supplemental for additional fixes: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=27710
* Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Actors.AIData,Actors.AIPackages,Actors.CombatStyle,Actors.DeathItem,Actors.Stats,C.Climate,C.Light,C.Music,C.Name,C.Owner,Creatures.Blood,Delev,Factions,Invent,Names,Relations,Relev,Scripts,Stats}} and remove the C.Water tag (only exist in older version).

Enhanced Water v2.0 HDMI.esp

* Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:C.Water}}

Book Jackets Oblivion - BP.esp

* Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Graphics}}

ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp

* Note: For use with Better Cities use 'ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp' instead.

RAEVWD Cities.esp [Version 1.8]

RAEVWD Imperial City.esp [Version 1.8]

Living Economy.esp [Version 3.62]

* Note: Don't use 'Living Economy' and 'Living Economy - SI' together. Pick one.

Living Economy - Items.esp [Version 3.62]

MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp

* Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Body-M}}

CM_Better Wine.esp

* Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Graphics,Deactivate}}

Darkgreen Glass Armour.esp

* Bashed Patch tag suggestion: May need to be tagged {{BASH:Graphics}} when using overhaul mods (e.g OOO).

FineWeapons.esp

* Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Graphics}}

RTFemaleReplacerV12.esp

* Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Graphics}} - De-activate

Slof's Horses Base.esp

* Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Graphics}}

Dude Wheres My Horse.esp

Ranokoas Organized Potions.esp

* Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Names,Deactivate}} If not using Wrye Bash load with overrides but then incompatible with most overhauls etc.

Amajor7 Imperial Furniture.esp [Version 1.0]

Imperial Furniture Renovated - Patch.esp

* Requires: Amajor7 Imperial Furniture.esp

BrotherhoodRenewed.esp [Version 1.0.9]

* Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Factions}}

Kvatch Rebuilt.esp [Version 1.0]

* Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Actors.AIPackages}}

Whispered Warning.esp

MyTweaks.esp

QuietFeet.esp

* Note: If not using Wrye Bash this will cause loss of some faction changes from KOTN; if you prefer the factions changes to the quiet feet for those creatures move thisa voe Knights.esp.

Bag of Holding.esp [Version 1.5.0]

Quest Award Leveller.esp [Version 2.1.0]

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Unrecogised Mod Files

Reorder these by hand using your favourite mod ordering utility.

Unknown mod file: encumbrancemodx50.esp

Done.

So have you guys added a special heuristic algorithm or something?

No, that's really weird. Are you sure you haven't got it in your userlist or BOMM rules if using BOMM? I can't replicate this.

» Sat May 14, 2011 3:56 pm

I edited my post. I don't use BOMM and I just added a userlist.

Edit: I've hunted and the only masterlist I have is in Data\BOSS. Now as I said, I'm using TES4 Manager, so I have two other clones and one of those clones may still have the old masterlist from when I used to have to edit it myself - is it possible BOSS is finding one of those?

The clones are in completely separate directories in my Games folder, where Oblivion is installed. (So I have C:\Games\Oblivion for my current game, and C:\Games\Clone1 and C:\Games\Clone2 for the clones).

Very strange.

» Sat May 14, 2011 12:37 pm

Open up a command line prompt and cd to your oblivion install's data directory, then run "BOSS -v2". This will print out a some stuff to your command line, try to go up to where it mentions the MyTweaks.esp file and let me know what it says regarding it.

EDIT: I don't think the clones should make a difference, unless you've got it in the masterlist in one of them, and are running BOSS from that same clone, BOSS just looks for directories relative to its location.

» Sat May 14, 2011 2:14 pm

I managed to grab the text from the command prompt:

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C:\Games\Oblivion\Data>boss -v2
DEBUG: creating BOSS sub-directory
DEBUG: opening 'BOSS\BOSSlog.html'
DEBUG: Detecting game...
INFO : Game detected: 1

Better Oblivion Sorting Software working...
DEBUG: Reading user mods...
DEBUG: Reading user mods done: 31 total mods found.
DEBUG: Saving backup of current modlist...
INFO : Backup saved successfully.
DEBUG: Checking for special mods...
INFO : Special mods found:
INFO : Using sorting file: masterlist.txt
INFO : Starting main sort process...
DEBUG: -- Sorting mod: "Oblivion.esm" into position: 0
DEBUG: >> Mod found at index: 0 in load order.
DEBUG: -- Sorting mod: "Kvatch Rebuilt.esm" into position: 1
DEBUG: >> Mod found at index: 1 in load order.
DEBUG: -- Sorting mod: "bookplacing.esm" into position: 2
DEBUG: >> Mod found at index: 2 in load order.
DEBUG: -- Sorting mod: "TNR ALL RACES FINAL.esp" into position: 3
DEBUG: >> Mod found at index: 3 in load order.
DEBUG: -- Sorting mod: "Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp" into position: 4
DEBUG: >> Mod found at index: 4 in load order.
DEBUG: -- Sorting mod: "Enhanced Water v2.0 HDMI.esp" into position: 5
DEBUG: >> Mod found at index: 5 in load order.
DEBUG: -- Sorting mod: "QuietFeet.esp" into position: 6
DEBUG: >> Mod found at index: 26 in load order.
DEBUG: -- Sorting mod: "Book Jackets Oblivion - BP.esp" into position: 7
DEBUG: >> Mod found at index: 7 in load order.
DEBUG: -- Sorting mod: "ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp" into position: 8
DEBUG: >> Mod found at index: 8 in load order.
DEBUG: -- Sorting mod: "RAEVWD Cities.esp" into position: 9
DEBUG: >> Mod found at index: 9 in load order.
DEBUG: -- Sorting mod: "RAEVWD Imperial City.esp" into position: 10
DEBUG: >> Mod found at index: 10 in load order.
DEBUG: -- Sorting mod: "Living Economy.esp" into position: 11
DEBUG: >> Mod found at index: 11 in load order.
DEBUG: -- Sorting mod: "Living Economy - Items.esp" into position: 12
DEBUG: >> Mod found at index: 12 in load order.
DEBUG: -- Sorting mod: "MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp" into position: 13
DEBUG: >> Mod found at index: 13 in load order.
DEBUG: -- Sorting mod: "CM_Better Wine.esp" into position: 14
DEBUG: >> Mod found at index: 14 in load order.
DEBUG: -- Sorting mod: "Darkgreen Glass Armour.esp" into position: 15
DEBUG: >> Mod found at index: 15 in load order.
DEBUG: -- Sorting mod: "FineWeapons.esp" into position: 16
DEBUG: >> Mod found at index: 16 in load order.
DEBUG: -- Sorting mod: "RTFemaleReplacerV12.esp" into position: 17
DEBUG: >> Mod found at index: 17 in load order.
DEBUG: -- Sorting mod: "Slof's Horses Base.esp" into position: 18
DEBUG: >> Mod found at index: 18 in load order.
DEBUG: -- Sorting mod: "Dude Wheres My Horse.esp" into position: 19
DEBUG: >> Mod found at index: 19 in load order.
DEBUG: -- Sorting mod: "Ranokoas Organized Potions.esp" into position: 20
DEBUG: >> Mod found at index: 20 in load order.
DEBUG: -- Sorting mod: "Amajor7 Imperial Furniture.esp" into position: 21
DEBUG: >> Mod found at index: 21 in load order.
DEBUG: -- Sorting mod: "Imperial Furniture Renovated - Patch.esp" into position:
22
DEBUG: >> Mod found at index: 22 in load order.
DEBUG: -- Sorting mod: "BrotherhoodRenewed.esp" into position: 23
DEBUG: >> Mod found at index: 23 in load order.
DEBUG: -- Sorting mod: "Kvatch Rebuilt.esp" into position: 24
DEBUG: >> Mod found at index: 24 in load order.
DEBUG: -- Sorting mod: "Whispered Warning.esp" into position: 25
DEBUG: >> Mod found at index: 25 in load order.
DEBUG: -- Sorting mod: "QuietFeet.esp" into position: 26
DEBUG: >> Mod found at index: 6 in load order.
DEBUG: -- Sorting mod: "Bag of Holding.esp" into position: 27
DEBUG: >> Mod found at index: 27 in load order.
DEBUG: -- Sorting mod: "Quest Award Leveller.esp" into position: 28
DEBUG: >> Mod found at index: 28 in load order.
DEBUG: -- Sorting mod: "Bashed Patch, 0.esp" into position: 29
DEBUG: >> Mod found at index: 30 in load order.
INFO : Main sort process finished.
INFO : Starting userlist sort process... Total 2 user rules statements to proces
s.
DEBUG: -- Processing rule #0 starting at: 0 and ending at 2.
DEBUG: -- Processing rule #1 starting at: 2 and ending at 4.
WARN : * "MyTweaks.esp" is already in the masterlist.
INFO : Userlist sorting process finished.
INFO : Applying calculated ordering to user files...
DEBUG: -- Setting last modified time for file: "Kvatch Rebuilt.esm"
DEBUG: -- Setting last modified time for file: "bookplacing.esm"
DEBUG: -- Setting last modified time for file: "TNR ALL RACES FINAL.esp"
DEBUG: -- Setting last modified time for file: "Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp"
DEBUG: -- Setting last modified time for file: "Enhanced Water v2.0 HDMI.esp"
DEBUG: -- Setting last modified time for file: "Book Jackets Oblivion - BP.esp"

DEBUG: -- Setting last modified time for file: "ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp"
DEBUG: -- Setting last modified time for file: "RAEVWD Cities.esp"
DEBUG: -- Setting last modified time for file: "RAEVWD Imperial City.esp"
DEBUG: -- Setting last modified time for file: "Living Economy.esp"
DEBUG: -- Setting last modified time for file: "Living Economy - Items.esp"
DEBUG: -- Setting last modified time for file: "MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp"
DEBUG: -- Setting last modified time for file: "CM_Better Wine.esp"
DEBUG: -- Setting last modified time for file: "Darkgreen Glass Armour.esp"
DEBUG: -- Setting last modified time for file: "FineWeapons.esp"
DEBUG: -- Setting last modified time for file: "RTFemaleReplacerV12.esp"
DEBUG: -- Setting last modified time for file: "Slof's Horses Base.esp"
DEBUG: -- Setting last modified time for file: "Dude Wheres My Horse.esp"
DEBUG: -- Setting last modified time for file: "Ranokoas Organized Potions.esp"

DEBUG: -- Setting last modified time for file: "Amajor7 Imperial Furniture.esp"

DEBUG: -- Setting last modified time for file: "Imperial Furniture Renovated -
Patch.esp"
DEBUG: -- Setting last modified time for file: "BrotherhoodRenewed.esp"
DEBUG: -- Setting last modified time for file: "Kvatch Rebuilt.esp"
DEBUG: -- Setting last modified time for file: "Whispered Warning.esp"
DEBUG: -- Setting last modified time for file: "MyTweaks.esp"
DEBUG: -- Setting last modified time for file: "QuietFeet.esp"
DEBUG: -- Setting last modified time for file: "Bag of Holding.esp"
DEBUG: -- Setting last modified time for file: "Quest Award Leveller.esp"
DEBUG: -- Setting last modified time for file: "encumbrancemodx50.esp"
DEBUG: -- Setting last modified time for file: "Bashed Patch, 0.esp"
INFO : User file ordering applied successfully.
INFO : Reporting unrecognized mods...
INFO : Unrecognized mods reported.
INFO : Launching boss log in browser.
INFO : BOSS finished.

You know if you have created some kind of amazing AI, it needs some work - it's putting MyTweaks.esp in the wrong spot

Edit: I'll look at this again later and see if something jumps out at me. It looks like it's running from the correct directory and the dates on the files indicate that it's updating the right stuff... Off to bed!

» Sat May 14, 2011 8:00 pm

I have/had a similar issue as Andalaybay. I have an esp called MyCustomPatch01.esp with various tweaks and such. When I first started using the userlist, when it first was available, I noticed this same issue. I choose to add my patch to the userlist after the Bashed Patch. When I used the ADD command the command line box would say Updating blah blah, then next line would be "WARN, cannot add, This mod is already in the Masterlist." I searched the masterlist with no luck. The BOSS.log reports the same; ""MyCustomPatch01.esp" is already in the masterlist. Rule skipped." I simply changed the command to OVERRIDE and everything is all good. From then I just overlooked it but I guess I should have mentioned it. I'll mention now though since another user is experiencing the same issue with a slightly differently named ESP. The workaround is to use the OVERRIDE command. It is rather strange though.

» Sat May 14, 2011 12:02 pm

And another curiosity - I dont know when this was added http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=35397 - Koranas n_dywyll race esp

Its very new too. I have not reported it earlier because BOSS seemed to recognise it.

Its not showing as un-recognised anyway, but the curious thing is if you do repeated BOSS runs on the same load order, the n_dywyll race esp changes position

First run it was positioned just above bashed patch, second run one place higher, third run another place higher.... Right now its sitting here...

Spoiler

~snip~
4E Tabaxi Race 2.0.esp [Version 2.0]
4F 1em_Vilja.esp [Version 2.3.2]
++ 1em_Vilja_as_Custom_by_Xtudo.esp
50 n_Dywyll_Elves.esp
** 1em_Vilja Vwalk.esp
51 TheOubliette.esp
52 DarknessHollows.esp
** NRB4 Standard Road Record.esp
++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53]
** All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp [Version 1.0]
53 Bashed Patch, 0.esp

And just doing a quick re-run of BOSS and ....

Spoiler

~snip~
4F Tabaxi Race 2.0.esp [Version 2.0]
50 n_Dywyll_Elves.esp
51 1em_Vilja.esp [Version 2.3.2]
++ 1em_Vilja_as_Custom_by_Xtudo.esp
** 1em_Vilja Vwalk.esp
52 TheOubliette.esp
** NRB4 Standard Road Record.esp
++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53]
** All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp [Version 1.0]
53 Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Its changed its mind again (maybe the halloween mod is spookier than I thought reaching out and messing with my load order too)

Yep its still at 50 - thats because darknesshollows.esp is now recognised on this run and has been placed above. If I had not installed DarknessHollows then n_dywyll would be sitting at 4F.... Look at the above two spoilers and compare first run position in relation to vilja plugins will make it clearer what I mean.

Edit: Just done a further BOSS run and....

Spoiler

~snip~
++ Khajiit Fix.esp
4E n_Dywyll_Elves.esp
4F CCR - Capucine.esp
50 Tabaxi Race 2.0.esp [Version 2.0]
51 1em_Vilja.esp [Version 2.3.2]
++ 1em_Vilja_as_Custom_by_Xtudo.esp
** 1em_Vilja Vwalk.esp
52 TheOubliette.esp
** NRB4 Standard Road Record.esp
++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53]
** All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp [Version 1.0]
53 Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Its jumped two places this run - Nothing has been added to my load order during all three above runs. n_dywyll seems to be slowly wandering up the load order with each successive run.

» Sat May 14, 2011 12:35 pm

I don't know if anyone added this to the list, but I don't believe Slof BASH tagged it: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=35463 . Any chance it could be added to the database?

» Sat May 14, 2011 1:18 pm

Ref Shingouki's post above; It might also be worth noting Slofs Better Bodies also includes Slofs Better Beasts - So making the latter not required if Slofs Better Bodies is installed.

I had a look out of curiosity, but not using it.

@ Shingouki - You might want to edit and delete the link, against forum rules to link advlt content here (I have been guilty of the same on occasion :blush:)

If you need to report something like that, include the esp name, and just mention the title of the mod so it is searchable on tesnexus rather than direct linking, and mention advlt content as the reason for no linkage.

» Sat May 14, 2011 8:56 am

Hey all,

I've been having some crashes recently that I thought might be related to my LO and I was wondering if anyone can give me any advice in this situation. The long version of the problems I've been experiencing can be found http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1137100-needing-some-lo-advice/page__pid__16633211__st__0&#entry16633211 but I thought I'd give a bit shorter account because it is sort of became a mountain of text. ^_^

Basically, I need to find the right positions in my LO for Nekhanimals Awesome Vampire Mod and Return of Shadows Ch.1. I find that when I BOSS my load order through BOMM, Neks doesn't work properly on my vamp character but when I made it quite a bit lower I may have put it too low as now I'm crashing much more often when before I could go about 3 hrs at least without a crash.

The thing with RoS is that I find crashes began to happen a lot when traveling to Bruma w/o fast travel, so much that I had to coc into Bruma the first time. I was thinking it might be a LO issue like its conflicting with something and maybe I need to load it lower but idk.

If you can provide any advice on this subject, please do so when possible.

Thanks,
Leold

P.S. I've got some mods that are still unrecognized I thought I'd mention

Unknown mod file:DABloodDemon.esp - http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=32775
Unknown mod file:Sadran.esp - http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16998
Unknown mod file:opaquan.esp - http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=9440
Unknown mod file:AsharasCharactersAsNPCs.esp - http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=15785
Unknown mod file:DnD_Classes.esp - http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=OblivionMods.Detail&id=710
Unknown mod file:CALSUDGPlugin.esp - http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=34051
Unknown mod file:CALSUDG.esp - http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=34051
Unknown mod file:NAVM GREETING fix.esp - http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=22501

My Current LO:

Spoiler

Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  ScreenEffects.esm02  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.0]03  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm04  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm05  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]06  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]07  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]08  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]09  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]0A  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]0B  Artifacts.esm  [Version 1.1]0C  Kvatch Rebuilt.esm0D  Better Cities Resources.esm0E  cssBase.esm0F  Toaster Says Share v3.esm10  CustomSpellIcons.esm11  HorseCombatMaster.esm12  UnnecessaryViolence.esm**  Cobl Races TNR.esp  [Version 1.53]**  Cobl Races TNR SI.esp  [Version 1.53]13  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.3.1]14  DLCShiveringIsles.esp15  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]++  Shivering OOO.esp16  MOBS SI.esp  [Version 1.2.2a]17  MOBS SI Optional Combat Settings.esp  [Version 1.2.2a]18  Better Cities .esp19  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp1A  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp1B  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp1C  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]1D  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  LoadingScreens.esp1E  LoadingScreensSI.esp1F  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.0]20  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.0]21  Immersive Interiors.esp  [Version 0.7]22  Immersive Interiors - Lights Addon.esp  [Version 0.7]23  Enhanced Water v2.0 HDMI.esp++  Symphony of Violence.esp24  MIS.esp25  MIS New Sounds Optional Part.esp26  Atmospheric Oblivion.esp27  PCSoundSillth.esp  [Version 2.6]28  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.0]29  AliveWaters.esp2A  ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp2B  ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.76]2C  Vows and Covenants.esp2D  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 4.3.1]2E  Enhanced Hotkeys.esp  [Version 1.4]2F  DLCHorseArmor.esp30  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]31  DLCOrrery.esp32  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]33  DLCVileLair.esp34  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]35  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp36  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]++  MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp37  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp38  UFF & RM Extra Robe Pack.esp39  XiaNewAmuletsV1.esp3A  Armamentium female.esp3B  DLCThievesDen.esp3C  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]3D  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]3E  KDCircletsOOOOptimized - NPC Equip.esp  [Version 1.2]++  FCOM_KDCircletsOOOOptimizedNPCEquip.esp  [Version 0.9.9]3F  Slof's Oblivion Robe Trader.esp40  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]41  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]42  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp43  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]44  Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp++  FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp  [Version 0.9.9]45  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version .]46  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB5]47  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]++  OOO_XiaNewAmulets Addon.esp  [Version 0.5]48  OMOBS.esp  [Version 1.0]49  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 1.0]++  ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp  [Version 1.35]4A  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]++  FCOM_Cobl.esp  [Version 0.9.9]4B  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]4C  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]4D  FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_SaferRoads.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]4E  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]4F  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  TamrielTravellerAdvscript.esp  [Version 1.40Alpha]50  TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  TamrielTravellersItemsnpc.esp  [Version 1.39c]51  TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp  [Version 1.39c]52  ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions4MMM.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp  [Version 0.9.9]53  FCOM_Archery_Armamentarium.esp++  FCOM_Archery_Artifacts.esp54  FCOM_Archery_RealSwords.esp++  FCOM_Archery_MMM_H&C.esp55  FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp  [Version 2.01]++  ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp  [Version 1.35]56  Fransfemale.esp57  LoadingScreens-OOO.esp58  OOO-WaterFish.esp  [Version 1.34]59  Mage Equipment - OOO.esp++  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.69]++  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer for OOO.esp5A  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4MMM.esp5B  Artifacts.esp  [Version 1.1]5C  ArtifactsFemaleArmor.esp++  Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp  [Version 1.0]5D  Kvatch Rebuilt.esp++  Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp5E  Kvatch Rebuilt - Leveled Guards - FCOM.esp5F  Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp60  Return Of Shadows.esp  [Version 1.1]61  Steve - Hitman.esp62  TempleoftheFullMoon.esp63  VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp64  DLCFrostcrag.esp65  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]66  Knights.esp67  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.10]68  EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp++  KotN Wayshrine Fix.esp69  The Lost Spires.esp6A  Blood&Mud.esp6B  Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp++  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]6C  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]6D  LostSpires-DarkForest patch.esp6E  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]6F  xulTheHeath.esp70  XulEntiusGorge.esp71  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]72  LostSpires-Everglade patch.esp  [Version 1.2]73  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.1]74  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]75  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.4]76  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.2]77  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3]78  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.3]79  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]7A  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]7B  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.3]7C  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]7D  xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp  [Version 1.3.2]7E  xulPantherRiver.esp7F  Blood&Mud-PantherRiver patch.esp80  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]81  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.1]82  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.5]83  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.1.0]84  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]85  Blood&Mud-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp86  KvatchRebuilt-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp87  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.2]88  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp  [Version 1.0.1]89  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0]8A  OOO-Snowdale Patch.esp8B  bartholm.esp8C  EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp8D  kikaibookbelts-tail.esp8E  Kyoma's Journal Mod.esp  [Version 3.2.1]8F  NoSunRobe.esp++  ScriptIcon_Replacer.esp90  Enhanced Vegetation [110%].esp91  Cliff_Roleplayingcharacter.esp  [Version 2.1]92  GalerionUnarmoredAcrobatics.esp93  Kyoma's Spell Renamer.esp  [Version 3.0.1]94  Pat's SpellpackMod Classic.esp95  PJs Spell Compendium - Spell Requirements.esp96  TeachSpell.esp97  Judgement of the Nine.esp  [Version 2.2]98  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.90]99  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 0.86]++  SM_OOO.esp  [Version 0.89]++  SM_MMM.esp  [Version 0.89]++  SM_COBL.esp  [Version 0.86]9A  SM_EnchantStaff.esp  [Version 0.80]9B  MidasSpells.esp++  Midas Betterholy.esp++  Midas Reduced Costs Half.esp++  Midas Eldrich Power 2x.esp9C  FearsomeMagicka.esp9D  NekhanimalLifeDetect.esp9E  SuddenViolence_CombatMoves.esp9F  SuddenViolence_Push.espA0  SuddenViolence_Sprint.espA1  DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp++  SM_DeadlyReflex.esp  [Version 0.86]A2  Kayo.espA3  Oblivion XP.esp  [Version 4.1.5]++  Oblivion XP - Journal Mod Patch.esp++  Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp  [Version 0.76]++  EVE_KhajiitFix.esp++  Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]A4  Corean_hair_for_Original_race.espA5  _Ren_BeautyPack_full.espA6  Energy - Beautiful Elves.espA7  X.Races.Comp.espA8  Companion Postal Service.espA9  DABloodDemon.espAA  Sadran.espAB  opaquan.espAC  AsharasCharactersAsNPCs.espAD  cssMerged12Sets.esp  [Version 1.0]AE  CompanionMaster.espAF  bgBalancingEVCore.esp  [Version 10.52EV-D]++  TamrielTravellers Cosmetics Cobl or RBP.espB0  bgMagicEV.esp  [Version 1.7EV]++  bgMagicEVStartspells.esp  [Version 1.68EV]++  bgBalancingEVOptionalFCOMAdditions.esp  [Version 10.]B1  bgBalancingOptionalNPCDiversityKvatchRebuilt, for Wrye Bash.esp  [Version 9.0EV-D]B2  bgBalancingEVLAMEAddition.esp  [Version 10.51EV-D]++  bgBalancingEVOptionalSeamReducerHighElfFix.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D]B3  bgIntegrationEV.esp  [Version 0.993]B4  Reaper's The Dark Tower.espB5  DnD_Classes.espB6  Nekhanimal's Awesome Vampire Mod.espB7  Better Cities Full - B&M Edition.espB8  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.espB9  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.espBA  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.espBB  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.espBC  Better Cities - VWD of the IC.espBD  Better Cities Full - B&M Edition FPS Patch.espBE  Better Imperial City.espBF  Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp  [Version 4.7.0]C0  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 2.1]C1  Better Cities - Skingrad Outer District.espC2  ScreenControls.espC3  Enhanced Economy - Soulgems.esp  [Version 4.2.2]C4  FCOM_Archery.espC5  UnnecessaryViolence.espC6  TuStartingOptions_01.espC7  CALSUDGPlugin.espC8  CALSUDG.espC9  Bashed Patch, 0.espCA  FormID Finder4.espCB  Oblivion Graphics Extender Support.esp  [Version 0.2]CC  Streamline 3.1.espCD  NAVM GREETING fix.esp

» Sat May 14, 2011 11:29 pm

Here is a list of my BOSS Unrecognised mod files...

Ren's hair on Young Hot NPCs.esp: Loading after Younger Hotter NPC's v1.0.esp seems to work for me
% {{BASH:NpcFaces,Hair}}
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=35216

More http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=28223 mods...

Ren's hair on Young Hot NPCs Vwalk.esp: Load after Ren's hair on Young Hot NPCs.esp
% {{BASH:Actors.Anims,NoMerge}}

Many thanks for all the hard work you do to maintain BOSS and its Master List.

» Sat May 14, 2011 11:03 am

I managed to grab the text from the command prompt:

Spoiler

C:\Games\Oblivion\Data>boss -v2
DEBUG: creating BOSS sub-directory
DEBUG: opening 'BOSS\BOSSlog.html'
DEBUG: Detecting game...
INFO : Game detected: 1

Better Oblivion Sorting Software working...
DEBUG: Reading user mods...
DEBUG: Reading user mods done: 31 total mods found.
DEBUG: Saving backup of current modlist...
INFO : Backup saved successfully.
DEBUG: Checking for special mods...
INFO : Special mods found:
INFO : Using sorting file: masterlist.txt
INFO : Starting main sort process...
DEBUG: -- Sorting mod: "Oblivion.esm" into position: 0
DEBUG: >> Mod found at index: 0 in load order.
DEBUG: -- Sorting mod: "Kvatch Rebuilt.esm" into position: 1
DEBUG: >> Mod found at index: 1 in load order.
DEBUG: -- Sorting mod: "bookplacing.esm" into position: 2
DEBUG: >> Mod found at index: 2 in load order.
DEBUG: -- Sorting mod: "TNR ALL RACES FINAL.esp" into position: 3
DEBUG: >> Mod found at index: 3 in load order.
DEBUG: -- Sorting mod: "Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp" into position: 4
DEBUG: >> Mod found at index: 4 in load order.
DEBUG: -- Sorting mod: "Enhanced Water v2.0 HDMI.esp" into position: 5
DEBUG: >> Mod found at index: 5 in load order.
DEBUG: -- Sorting mod: "QuietFeet.esp" into position: 6
DEBUG: >> Mod found at index: 26 in load order.
DEBUG: -- Sorting mod: "Book Jackets Oblivion - BP.esp" into position: 7
DEBUG: >> Mod found at index: 7 in load order.
DEBUG: -- Sorting mod: "ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp" into position: 8
DEBUG: >> Mod found at index: 8 in load order.
DEBUG: -- Sorting mod: "RAEVWD Cities.esp" into position: 9
DEBUG: >> Mod found at index: 9 in load order.
DEBUG: -- Sorting mod: "RAEVWD Imperial City.esp" into position: 10
DEBUG: >> Mod found at index: 10 in load order.
DEBUG: -- Sorting mod: "Living Economy.esp" into position: 11
DEBUG: >> Mod found at index: 11 in load order.
DEBUG: -- Sorting mod: "Living Economy - Items.esp" into position: 12
DEBUG: >> Mod found at index: 12 in load order.
DEBUG: -- Sorting mod: "MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp" into position: 13
DEBUG: >> Mod found at index: 13 in load order.
DEBUG: -- Sorting mod: "CM_Better Wine.esp" into position: 14
DEBUG: >> Mod found at index: 14 in load order.
DEBUG: -- Sorting mod: "Darkgreen Glass Armour.esp" into position: 15
DEBUG: >> Mod found at index: 15 in load order.
DEBUG: -- Sorting mod: "FineWeapons.esp" into position: 16
DEBUG: >> Mod found at index: 16 in load order.
DEBUG: -- Sorting mod: "RTFemaleReplacerV12.esp" into position: 17
DEBUG: >> Mod found at index: 17 in load order.
DEBUG: -- Sorting mod: "Slof's Horses Base.esp" into position: 18
DEBUG: >> Mod found at index: 18 in load order.
DEBUG: -- Sorting mod: "Dude Wheres My Horse.esp" into position: 19
DEBUG: >> Mod found at index: 19 in load order.
DEBUG: -- Sorting mod: "Ranokoas Organized Potions.esp" into position: 20
DEBUG: >> Mod found at index: 20 in load order.
DEBUG: -- Sorting mod: "Amajor7 Imperial Furniture.esp" into position: 21
DEBUG: >> Mod found at index: 21 in load order.
DEBUG: -- Sorting mod: "Imperial Furniture Renovated - Patch.esp" into position:
22
DEBUG: >> Mod found at index: 22 in load order.
DEBUG: -- Sorting mod: "BrotherhoodRenewed.esp" into position: 23
DEBUG: >> Mod found at index: 23 in load order.
DEBUG: -- Sorting mod: "Kvatch Rebuilt.esp" into position: 24
DEBUG: >> Mod found at index: 24 in load order.
DEBUG: -- Sorting mod: "Whispered Warning.esp" into position: 25
DEBUG: >> Mod found at index: 25 in load order.
DEBUG: -- Sorting mod: "QuietFeet.esp" into position: 26
DEBUG: >> Mod found at index: 6 in load order.
DEBUG: -- Sorting mod: "Bag of Holding.esp" into position: 27
DEBUG: >> Mod found at index: 27 in load order.
DEBUG: -- Sorting mod: "Quest Award Leveller.esp" into position: 28
DEBUG: >> Mod found at index: 28 in load order.
DEBUG: -- Sorting mod: "Bashed Patch, 0.esp" into position: 29
DEBUG: >> Mod found at index: 30 in load order.
INFO : Main sort process finished.
INFO : Starting userlist sort process... Total 2 user rules statements to proces
s.
DEBUG: -- Processing rule #0 starting at: 0 and ending at 2.
DEBUG: -- Processing rule #1 starting at: 2 and ending at 4.
WARN : * "MyTweaks.esp" is already in the masterlist.
INFO : Userlist sorting process finished.
INFO : Applying calculated ordering to user files...
DEBUG: -- Setting last modified time for file: "Kvatch Rebuilt.esm"
DEBUG: -- Setting last modified time for file: "bookplacing.esm"
DEBUG: -- Setting last modified time for file: "TNR ALL RACES FINAL.esp"
DEBUG: -- Setting last modified time for file: "Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp"
DEBUG: -- Setting last modified time for file: "Enhanced Water v2.0 HDMI.esp"
DEBUG: -- Setting last modified time for file: "Book Jackets Oblivion - BP.esp"

DEBUG: -- Setting last modified time for file: "ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp"
DEBUG: -- Setting last modified time for file: "RAEVWD Cities.esp"
DEBUG: -- Setting last modified time for file: "RAEVWD Imperial City.esp"
DEBUG: -- Setting last modified time for file: "Living Economy.esp"
DEBUG: -- Setting last modified time for file: "Living Economy - Items.esp"
DEBUG: -- Setting last modified time for file: "MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp"
DEBUG: -- Setting last modified time for file: "CM_Better Wine.esp"
DEBUG: -- Setting last modified time for file: "Darkgreen Glass Armour.esp"
DEBUG: -- Setting last modified time for file: "FineWeapons.esp"
DEBUG: -- Setting last modified time for file: "RTFemaleReplacerV12.esp"
DEBUG: -- Setting last modified time for file: "Slof's Horses Base.esp"
DEBUG: -- Setting last modified time for file: "Dude Wheres My Horse.esp"
DEBUG: -- Setting last modified time for file: "Ranokoas Organized Potions.esp"

DEBUG: -- Setting last modified time for file: "Amajor7 Imperial Furniture.esp"

DEBUG: -- Setting last modified time for file: "Imperial Furniture Renovated -
Patch.esp"
DEBUG: -- Setting last modified time for file: "BrotherhoodRenewed.esp"
DEBUG: -- Setting last modified time for file: "Kvatch Rebuilt.esp"
DEBUG: -- Setting last modified time for file: "Whispered Warning.esp"
DEBUG: -- Setting last modified time for file: "MyTweaks.esp"
DEBUG: -- Setting last modified time for file: "QuietFeet.esp"
DEBUG: -- Setting last modified time for file: "Bag of Holding.esp"
DEBUG: -- Setting last modified time for file: "Quest Award Leveller.esp"
DEBUG: -- Setting last modified time for file: "encumbrancemodx50.esp"
DEBUG: -- Setting last modified time for file: "Bashed Patch, 0.esp"
INFO : User file ordering applied successfully.
INFO : Reporting unrecognized mods...
INFO : Unrecognized mods reported.
INFO : Launching boss log in browser.
INFO : BOSS finished.

You know if you have created some kind of amazing AI, it needs some work - it's putting MyTweaks.esp in the wrong spot

Edit: I'll look at this again later and see if something jumps out at me. It looks like it's running from the correct directory and the dates on the files indicate that it's updating the right stuff... Off to bed!

I have/had a similar issue as Andalaybay. I have an esp called MyCustomPatch01.esp with various tweaks and such. When I first started using the userlist, when it first was available, I noticed this same issue. I choose to add my patch to the userlist after the Bashed Patch. When I used the ADD command the command line box would say Updating blah blah, then next line would be "WARN, cannot add, This mod is already in the Masterlist." I searched the masterlist with no luck. The BOSS.log reports the same; ""MyCustomPatch01.esp" is already in the masterlist. Rule skipped." I simply changed the command to OVERRIDE and everything is all good. From then I just overlooked it but I guess I should have mentioned it. I'll mention now though since another user is experiencing the same issue with a slightly differently named ESP. The workaround is to use the OVERRIDE command. It is rather strange though.

And another curiosity - I dont know when this was added http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=35397 - Koranas n_dywyll race esp

Its very new too. I have not reported it earlier because BOSS seemed to recognise it.

Its not showing as un-recognised anyway, but the curious thing is if you do repeated BOSS runs on the same load order, the n_dywyll race esp changes position

First run it was positioned just above bashed patch, second run one place higher, third run another place higher.... Right now its sitting here...

Spoiler

~snip~
4E Tabaxi Race 2.0.esp [Version 2.0]
4F 1em_Vilja.esp [Version 2.3.2]
++ 1em_Vilja_as_Custom_by_Xtudo.esp
50 n_Dywyll_Elves.esp
** 1em_Vilja Vwalk.esp
51 TheOubliette.esp
52 DarknessHollows.esp
** NRB4 Standard Road Record.esp
++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53]
** All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp [Version 1.0]
53 Bashed Patch, 0.esp

And just doing a quick re-run of BOSS and ....

Spoiler

~snip~
4F Tabaxi Race 2.0.esp [Version 2.0]
50 n_Dywyll_Elves.esp
51 1em_Vilja.esp [Version 2.3.2]
++ 1em_Vilja_as_Custom_by_Xtudo.esp
** 1em_Vilja Vwalk.esp
52 TheOubliette.esp
** NRB4 Standard Road Record.esp
++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53]
** All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp [Version 1.0]
53 Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Its changed its mind again (maybe the halloween mod is spookier than I thought reaching out and messing with my load order too)

Yep its still at 50 - thats because darknesshollows.esp is now recognised on this run and has been placed above. If I had not installed DarknessHollows then n_dywyll would be sitting at 4F.... Look at the above two spoilers and compare first run position in relation to vilja plugins will make it clearer what I mean.

Edit: Just done a further BOSS run and....

Spoiler

~snip~
++ Khajiit Fix.esp
4E n_Dywyll_Elves.esp
4F CCR - Capucine.esp
50 Tabaxi Race 2.0.esp [Version 2.0]
51 1em_Vilja.esp [Version 2.3.2]
++ 1em_Vilja_as_Custom_by_Xtudo.esp
** 1em_Vilja Vwalk.esp
52 TheOubliette.esp
** NRB4 Standard Road Record.esp
++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53]
** All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp [Version 1.0]
53 Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Its jumped two places this run - Nothing has been added to my load order during all three above runs. n_dywyll seems to be slowly wandering up the load order with each successive run.

Thanks for the reports. Could you all do as andalaybay has done and run "BOSS -v2" from a command line prompt, and post the output here? I suspect the issue has something to do with the changes I made relating to user rules for 1.62, so if you've got rules, could you also post your userlist?

Thanks, I'll get to the bottom of this ASAP.

EDIT: Oh, and andalaybay's post also shows that QuietFeet.esp is in the masterlist twice, once early with other such mods, and once late. Which should get removed?

» Sat May 14, 2011 8:44 pm

Just a couple unknown files from the soon to be released The Arsenal v2

The Arsenal.esm
The Arsenal.esp
The Arsenal - Leveled Lists.esp
The Arsenal - Faregyl Patch.esp

Since it has not been released just yet, here is the LO info from the ReadMe.

Due to the placement of Woodling's shop there is a small patch needed when you play Oblivion with Arthmoor's Faregyl Village.

Along with the patch you will have to make sure Faregyl Village loads after The Arsenal to ensure they play nice, load the patch after both of those.

Load Order:

The Arsenal.esp
Faregyl.esp
The Arsenal - Faregyl Patch.esp