Thank you for the hint.

I have non of the big overhauls installed but the very same problem.

Wth "NoMerge, Deactivate" removed all is fine.

I guess this is something that should be changed in the masterlist.

As a temporary solution I created an overwrite with BOMM.

Crash

For the record, for the non-OOO versions of alluring potion and wine bottles, the tags work perfectly fine, atleast for me. I use it with my WAC-install.

Thank you for letting me know.
Strange that it did not in my game; guess I have to look into it.

Crash

Three unrecognized mods from my latest LO:



http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=35429
(Note: readme notes that this mod isn't compatible with Better Cities, but is compatible with ImpeREAL City - Unique Districts.)

http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=OblivionMods.Detail&id=1449
(Note: comes with three .esp files. As far as I can tell, two are basically identical (Treleths_Pitchable_Tent.esp and Pitchable_Tent.esp), and I assume users should only use one for obvious reasons. The other, Pitchable_Tent_anywhere.esp, is also identical except that it allows players to pitch the tent anywhere, including in cities. Only one .esp of the three should be active at any given time.)

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=31258

Thanks!

9 unrecognized mods in my recent installation. I also included some short mod summaries below with links to where the mods can be found in case that helps.



http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=30617 - Changes the ground mesh for Nirnroot.

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=27931 - Replaces stock clothing.

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=28607 - Replaces stock robes.

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=11422 - Adds npc's to the Elder Councils Chambers in the Imperial City.

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=35223 - "Increases the value of all vanilla Oblivion and OOO animal related loot and food items to make hunting more worthwhile."

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=28977 - The readme for this states where this should be placed in your load order.

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=33767 - The same mod as "Blood Is Everything.esp" but was just changed to "BIE.esp" for the most recent version of the mod.

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=33266 - Fixes the extremely limited amount of uses on enchanted weapons.

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=13834 - The RedHeadedGang-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp is a patch avalable here and also from the UL patches compatibility omod download.

Kinda of a strange request but I'm kinda strange as it is. Is there a way to set the BOSS output file in ver. 1.65 back to good plain old Notepad instead of to the .html output? It's just something of personal preference. I like to run it and then possibly open the masterlist and alt tab back and forth between the two to tweak my load order and also search for LO problems. Hopefully it is something that can be done easily. Any assistance or education would be greatly appreciated.

## 29-30 added in R2183

Not without a great deal of rewriting currently. However, I have had an idea recently to move all the formatting output into an output function, so if I do that I suppose that it wouldn't be too difficult to allow specification of whether the output is plain text or HTML. It would cut down on the code required a lot compared to if I were to add an option at the moment.

So: It might be possible in 1.7, but there's not much you can do ATM. You can open the masterlist in your web browser too though, and you can still alt-tab between the web browser and Notepad anyway.

added, thanks.


already got it (and no worries it is very much before ULs on the masterlist)


sometimes some of us can be blind... I've ran BOSS with that file in there probably on the line of hundreds of times but never noticed that erronious comment :headbang:... fixed, thanks.


ooh that is a rather massive overhaul... well I'll place it in a somewhat reasonable place at least for now... we'll see if it needs to move later (won't be suprised), thanks.


added, thanks. (and htanks for those further commments on Colourwheel's)
Pacific Morrowind

awesome thanks. I have one or two other unrecognized mods but this was the only one that I noticed a problem with the game. I'm not sure where the others should be placed though since they haven't caused any huge mistakes like Autumn leaves did.

Unknown mod file: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=36679

Pertinent info:
4.The load order should be:

Oblivion.esm
...
FCOM_Convergence.esp
FCOM_SlofsHorses.esp
...
Bash Patch,0.esp


5.Rebuild the Bash Patch,0.esp, previusly activating the mod in "Merge patches" and "Import Graphics".

Just figured I'd let you know about these. :3

Unrecognised Mod Files

Unknown mod file: http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=21243
Unknown mod file: http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=22297
These two are *pocket dimension* mods, though I have no idea where they should be in the load order.

Unknown mod file: http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=36563
Just some fancy armour that gets added to your inventory as you start the game.

Hope this is helpful enough.

I do not use OOO and had the same problem. The cause is that deactivate tag causes the esp not to load which in turn does not load the bsa file of the same name, which needs the esp to be loaded. Workaround for me was to rename the bsa file to load via another esp - in my case I use DLCshiveringisles.esp to load the bsa files.

Yeah. Or you can unpack those pesky BSAs (along with heaps of others... hehe) and just not worry about all that rubbish.

Just my preferred method - not necessarily going to appeal to everyone, I know.

Whatever works brother.

So that many others has problems with the actual tags (OOO-users as well as Not-OOO-users), I would like to suggest, that maybe it could be add a note for the BOSSlog.txt file like e.g.:

"Alluring Potion Bottles v3.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Graphics, NoMerge, Deactivate}}
. Note: When using OOO, ...rename bsa file...
Alluring Wine Bottles.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Graphics, NoMerge, Deactivate}}
. Note: When using OOO, ...rename bsa file..."


Besides this:
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Unrecognised mod files:
Reorder these by hand using your favourite mod ordering utility.
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Unknown mod file: SM_DeadlyReflex5.esp
-----------------------------------------------------------

from Supreme Magicka update 0.90
(http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=12466#fileanchor)

I would rather know why the NoMerge and Deactivate are there in the first place, rather than messing on with renaming files -- clearly not what was intended by the author.

Both of the esp's are contained in the main download here -> http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=22555. I would also assume that BOSS doesn't have the DV versions of these patches in the database yet either.

Well, I am really not versed enough to answer that completely correctly :whistling: , but it has to do with combination with other mods and overwriting in respect of loadorder, how Bashed Patch work and of course you will get two more free esp slots.
:thumbsup:

Furthermore I think that at least as many people there are having problems, there are as many which have no problem with tagging the files like this.

Also my remark in respect of renaming of the files is only a vague suggestion and I am sure the BOSS Team has maybe a much better idea.

The graphics tag imports the model and texture changes to the bottles and allows other mods to change e.g. its weight and effect. :3 Without Wrye Bash you could either have vanilla stats on the bottle with fancy looks or e.g. Mighty Magick stats and vanilla looks.

I understand that, and my remark was not about the Graphics tag.

Oh, sorry. If it's not deactivated then it will still overwrite mods that change the stats of the potions.

Edit: I could be wrong though. Maybe it shouldn't be there, and in that case, I apologise. D:

IMHO from what's been posted, it looks like Deactivate shouldn't be there. NoMerge is fine, because otherwise the plugin might get merged, in which case it could be deactivated, leading again to the problem of the BSA not loading.

I don't think renaming the BSA is appropriate, since that's obviously not how the mod's supposed to work. It looks like the Deactivate tag needs to be removed.

As for the mod overwriting the changes of other mods, that's why those other mods should be tagged with Import Stats. Unless I'm missing something...

Though I do think that it's bad design for something that purely replaces graphics to be dependent on a plugin loading a BSA. That's the sort of case where loose files are more appropriate, so changes can be imported and a plugin slot freed.

Oops. D: My mistake. It won't overwrite any properly tagged mods. I apologise.

I agree. Though I'm not sure why the NoMerge would be there either, because the esp is non-mergable anyway -- at least the OOO version is not. Unless I'm misunderstanding what is mergable and what is not. :shrug: