When you run BOSS.bat can you copy what it says into a codebox here?

Codebox being (code) text (/code) with [] brackets instead of ().

And are you using vista/ windows 7?

Oops. I should know better....I ran the exe. Im so used to running BOSS through Wrye Bash I forgot to run the .bat instead.

Here is the list:

Unrecognised mod files:
Reorder these by hand using your favourite mod ordering utility.
-----------------------------------------------------------------

Unknown mod file: FOOK2 - [[censored]] World And Neighbourhood Kit.esm
Unknown mod file: CubeExperimental (EN).esm
Unknown mod file: FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp
Unknown mod file: MyFOOK2 - No [censored] Victims.esp
Unknown mod file: FireLightFix.esp
Unknown mod file: Mart's Mutant Mod - FOOK2 - DIK.esp


-----------------------------------------------------------
Done.


Also I get this error from FO3edit after changing to this load order

"[00:11] Background Loader: Fatal: "



Also worth noting is my load order. MMM is still loading early


Fallout3.esm
Anchorage.esm
ThePitt.esm
BrokenSteel.esm
PointLookout.esm
Zeta.esm
CRAFT.esm
CALIBR.esm
FOOK2 - Main.esm
FOOK2 - [DIK] DLC Improvement Kit.esm
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm
Mart's Mutant Mod.esm
FOOK2 - [[censored]] World And Neighbourhood Kit.esm
CubeExperimental (EN).esm
CASM.esp
DarNifiedUIF3.esp
FOOK2 - Main.esp
FOOK2 - [EVE] Energy Visuals Enhanced.esp
FOOK2 - [DIK] DLC Improvement Kit.esp
FOOK2 - Mothership Zeta.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Hunting & Looting.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Reduced Wasteland Spawns.esp
WeaponModKits.esp
WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp
WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp
WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp
WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp
WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp
WeaponModKits - FOOK.esp
WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp
EVE.esp
EVE - FWE Master Release (Follower Enhanced).esp
EVE Operation Anchorage.esp
EVE - FWE with WeaponModKits.esp
EVE Anchorage - FWE DLC Anchorage.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE with EVE.esp
DCInteriors_ComboEdition.esp
GalaxyNewsRadio100[M].esp
Wasteland Weather Overhaul .9.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - FOOK2.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - FOOK Support.esp
FWE - FOOK DLC Support.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.esp
Mez's Merged Patch - FWE-WMK-MMM.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp
MyFOOK2 - No [censored] Victims.esp
FireLightFix.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - FOOK2 - DIK.esp

Total active plugins: 60
Total plugins: 60

Sorting out the problems, thanks.

EDIT:

OK, try downloading the file from filefront now. Sorry about all the confusing ness.

Also, the MyFOOK2 - No [censored] Victims.esp file will still be unrecognised, what is the [censored] meant to be?

Will add that fix in later.

IN the mean time let me know how the new LO goes.

Ok heres the update. First the name of the file is "MyFOOK2 - No R*a*p*e Victims.esp" (remove asterisks obviously) Not sure what the esp is in the game though. I just know I dont want those in my game.....

As for the list here is what we get...

Fallout3.esmAnchorage.esmThePitt.esmBrokenSteel.esmPointLookout.esmZeta.esmCRAFT.esmCALIBR.esmFOOK2 - Main.esmFOOK2 - [[censored]] World And Neighbourhood Kit.esmFOOK2 - [DIK] DLC Improvement Kit.esmFO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esmMart's Mutant Mod.esmCubeExperimental (EN).esmCASM.espDarNifiedUIF3.espFOOK2 - Main.espFOOK2 - [EVE] Energy Visuals Enhanced.espFOOK2 - [DIK] DLC Improvement Kit.espFOOK2 - Mothership Zeta.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).espWeaponModKits.espWeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.espWeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.espWeaponModKits - ThePitt.espWeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.espWeaponModKits - PointLookout.espWeaponModKits - Zeta.espWeaponModKits - FOOK.espEVE.espEVE - FWE Master Release (Follower Enhanced).espEVE Operation Anchorage.espEVE - FWE with WeaponModKits.espEVE Anchorage - FWE DLC Anchorage.espMart's Mutant Mod - FWE with EVE.espMart's Mutant Mod.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.espMart's Mutant Mod - Hunting & Looting.espMart's Mutant Mod - Reduced Wasteland Spawns.espMart's Mutant Mod - FOOK2 - DIK.espDCInteriors_ComboEdition.espGalaxyNewsRadio100[M].espWasteland Weather Overhaul .9.espFireLightFix.espMart's Mutant Mod - FOOK2.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - FOOK Support.espFWE - FOOK DLC Support.espMart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.espMez's Merged Patch - FWE-WMK-MMM.espMyFOOK2 - No [censored] Victims.espTotal active plugins: 60Total plugins: 60

This seems out of place:

Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE with EVE.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod.esp

Should MMM.esp be on top of the FWE/EVE esp?


Thanks for getting this thing going. Let me know if you need any further testing.

--Joelr

OK, thanks.

Does the game work now?

If not what is the problem?

And there is a new masterlist, sorry for all the bother!

EDIT:

Even newer masterlist with that fix.

EDIT2:

Thanks for all the testing

Havent tried to run the game! I should do that now...Will try with the newest list...

Game loaded with no apparent issues.

Just wanted to pop in with my latest load order for ya, though this is the "no crash after birth/game exit" edition. Medium load order, so that should be noted.

Fallout3.esmAnchorage.esmThePitt.esmBrokenSteel.esmPointLookout.esmZeta.esmUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esmHairday.esmCRAFT.esmCALIBR.esmArefuExpandedByAzar.esmFOOK2 - Main.esmFOOK2 - [[censored]] World And Neighbourhood Kit.esmFOOK2 - [DIK] DLC Improvement Kit.esmFO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esmMart's Mutant Mod.esmAmmo Bench.esmEnhanced Weather - Rain and Snow.esmGlobaltravelsystem.esmGTSEssentials.esmProject Beauty HD version.esmSharing and Caring Companions.esmUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Operation Anchorage.espUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch - The Pitt.espUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Broken Steel.espUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Point Lookout.espUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Mothership Zeta.espDarNifiedUIF3.espUPP - Pack 1.espUPP - Pack 2.espUPP - Original Perks.espUPP - Experience Perks.espUPP  - Quest Perks.espUPP - Beverage Perks.espEnhanced Weather - Radioactive Rain and Snow Plugin.espEnhanced Weather - Rain and Snow in Fallout.espEnhanced Weather - Sneak Bonus during Storms.espEnhanced Weather - Weather Sounds in Interiors.espWasteland Weather Overhaul .9.espAmmo Bench - Alien Power Cell.espAmmo Bench - Artisan.espAmmo Bench - CRAFT Plugin.espAmmo Bench - CALIBR.espAmmo Bench - Car Mechanic.espAmmo Bench - Old Ammo-Benches.espAmmo Bench - Toolkit Retex.espCBOv1.4.espXPReward0Percent.espimplants.esp1PipboyPDA.espArefuExpandedByAzar-Radio.esptubRRCompound.espDCInteriors_ComboEdition.espStealthboy Recon Armor - CRAFT.espStealth Kills Enabled.espStealth Kills Enabled - Pitt Compatibility.espSCC - Talk to Anyone.espSCC Armor.espMTC Wasteland Travellers.espMTC Wasteland Travellers (Optional)- Crowded Cities.espProject Beauty.espProject Beauty- Broken Steel.espProject Beauty- Point Lookout.espProject Beauty- Point Lookout MMM.espPB FOOK2 - Main.espPB MMM.espPB MMM HD.espFOOK2 - Main.espFOOK2 - [DIK] DLC Improvement Kit.espFOOK2 - [EVE] Energy Visuals Enhanced.espFOOK2 - Mothership Zeta.espCRAFT - Activation Perk.espCALIBRxMerchant.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - UFP Support.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - FOOK Support - Classic DR.espFWE - FOOK DLC Support - Classic DR.espWeaponModKits.espWeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.espWeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.espWeaponModKits - ThePitt.espWeaponModKits - PointLookout.espWeaponModKits - Zeta.espWeaponModKits - FOOK.espEVE.espEVE - FWE Master Release.espEVE Operation Anchorage.espEVE Anchorage - FWE DLC Anchorage.espEVE - FWE with WeaponModKits.espMart's Mutant Mod.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.espMart's Mutant Mod - FOOK2.espMart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.espMart's Mutant Mod - FWE with EVE.espMart's Mutant Mod - Feral Ghoul Rampage.espMart's Mutant Mod - Increased Spawns.espMart's Mutant Mod - No Ghoul Raise.espMart's Mutant Mod - FOOK2 - DIK.espChoose your own hairstyle (load this last on FOMM).espTotal active plugins: 109Total plugins: 144

Will update as soon as I get the A-OK from Mez and others... Also, FOOK2 - [[censored]] World And Neighbourhood Kit.esm is [W*A*N*K] which is obviously short for World and Neighbourhood Kit.

Very cool that this is finally being fully implemented.

Bringing more goodness from Oblivion modders and tool makers to Fallout3!

As for stealing ???? Huh? BOSS has been around for over a year and as I recall and if anybody has the right to stomp their feet about it - it is Random.

Thanks team BOSS!!

It was the mod list that was at issue, not BOSS itself.

Oh didn't catch that - sorry. Well yeah credit where it is due.

Not that a load order can be copyrighted, but I get the point now.

Alright so keeping in line with the reporting of unrecognized mods on the oblivion forum here is my list of mods that are unrecognized:

-----------------------------------------------------------------Unrecognised mod files:                                          Reorder these by hand using your favourite mod ordering utility. -----------------------------------------------------------------Unknown mod file: StreetLights.esmUnknown mod file: ArefuExpandedByAzar.esmUnknown mod file: CubeExperimental (EN).esmUnknown mod file: MMZombieCemetery.esmUnknown mod file: PointLookout-FollowersGetToGo.esmUnknown mod file: Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow.esmUnknown mod file: Refurbish [OA] - FWE.espUnknown mod file: Refurbish [TP].espUnknown mod file: Refurbish [BS].espUnknown mod file: Refurbish [PL].espUnknown mod file: Refurbish [MZ].espUnknown mod file: eyes_hairpack_en.espUnknown mod file: hair_add_npc.espUnknown mod file: FaceMe-Broken Steel.espUnknown mod file: Echo_BatteryCharger.espUnknown mod file: HouseholdWaterPurifier.espUnknown mod file: PortableMattress.espUnknown mod file: BlackWolf Backpack.espUnknown mod file: GunnySack.espUnknown mod file: SS OTS Camera FOSE.espUnknown mod file: 1Animated Nightvision goggles.espUnknown mod file: Directional PipLight HDR.espUnknown mod file: GhostRadio.espUnknown mod file: mutantradio.espUnknown mod file: Existence2.0.espUnknown mod file: LookoutRadio.espUnknown mod file: RadioTenpenny.espUnknown mod file: CONELRAD 640-1240.espUnknown mod file: RadioHotkey.espUnknown mod file: Expanded Megaton House V3.espUnknown mod file: MaintenanceShed.espUnknown mod file: HomesteadMotelSuite.espUnknown mod file: UrgeWashingtonBoS.espUnknown mod file: merc.espUnknown mod file: D.C. Confidential.espUnknown mod file: HeirApparent.espUnknown mod file: PLweightadjust.espUnknown mod file: AReasonedArgument.espUnknown mod file: Treasure Maps_Underground.espUnknown mod file: Treasure Maps_Secrets of the Wasteland.espUnknown mod file: Treasure Maps_Bobblehead Edition.espUnknown mod file: Treasure Maps_A Fist Full of Caps.espUnknown mod file: MTC Wasteland Travellers (Optional)- Crowded Cities less NPCs.espUnknown mod file: Cliff's_Residences Of DC - Player Version.espUnknown mod file: MoreMapMarkers.espUnknown mod file: MaxLevelWorkaround-HP-BS.espUnknown mod file: WastelandMastery.espUnknown mod file: SkillCheck.espUnknown mod file: FO3 Wanderers Edition - Lvl 30 High Skills.espUnknown mod file: FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).espUnknown mod file: FaceMe-FWE.espUnknown mod file: CALIBR Ammo Schematics - CRAFT.espUnknown mod file: jmschematics.espUnknown mod file: FasterMorePowerfulMines.espUnknown mod file: Ballistics-ALL-MoreRealism.espUnknown mod file: RealFragGrenade3.espUnknown mod file: Ks_DynamicSneak.espUnknown mod file: PHIG_SteadyAim.espUnknown mod file: Limbs.espUnknown mod file: Wasteland Whisperer.espUnknown mod file: DogmeatEssentialToken.espUnknown mod file: Buildablebots Robcert. addon.espUnknown mod file: RobCo Engineer - Robot Repair.espUnknown mod file: CBOv1.4.espUnknown mod file: ThePitt-NoFireFollowers.espUnknown mod file: KickDogs.espUnknown mod file: Replenishment.espUnknown mod file: Mart's Mutant Mod - Zombie Cementery.espUnknown mod file: Fellout-pipboylight.espUnknown mod file: FireLightFix.espUnknown mod file: Realistic Interior Lighting.espUnknown mod file: Realistic Interior Lighting - OA.espUnknown mod file: Realistic Interior Lighting - BS.espUnknown mod file: StreetLights - Wasteland.espUnknown mod file: megalight.esp

I do not have it in me to link all those mods, most can be found by searching the title anyway. I'm using most but not all those mods, some are still in the data folder deactivated.

I also very much am suspect of the load order it recomended for the mods it did recognize:

------------------------------------Recognised and re-ordered mod files:------------------------------------Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esmAnchorage.esmThePitt.esmBrokenSteel.esmPointLookout.esmZeta.esmHairPack.esmCRAFT.esmCALIBR.esmFO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm  . Note:  Requiers CRAFT.esm and CALIBR.esmMart's Mutant Mod.esmFaceMe.esm  Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Operation Anchorage.espUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch - The Pitt.espUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Broken Steel.espUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Point Lookout.espUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Mothership Zeta.espCRAFT - Activation Perk.espCALIBRxMerchant.espFaceMe.espPrincess Better Prompts v1pt1.espDarNifiedUIF3.espPCIdles.espZumbs'_Overhauled_Real_Time_Security.espGalaxyNewsRadio100[M].esp  . Note:  Only use one GalaxyNewsRadioXXX[M].esp pluginEnhanced Weather - Rain and Snow in Fallout.espEnhanced Weather - Radioactive Rain and Snow Plugin.espEnhanced Weather - Rainbows.espEnhanced Weather - Weather Sounds in Interiors.espEnhanced Weather - Sneak Bonus during Storms.espFellout-Full.espFellout-Anchorage.espFellout-BrokenSteel.espFellout-PointLookout.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - UFP Support.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional VATS Realtime.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Worn Weapons.espMart's Mutant Mod.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.espMart's Mutant Mod - Feral Ghoul Rampage.espMart's Mutant Mod - Hunting & Looting.espMart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.espMart's Mutant Mod - Reduced Wasteland Spawns.espMart's Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn.espMart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.espWeaponModKits.espWeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.espWeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.espWeaponModKits - ThePitt.espWeaponModKits - PointLookout.espWeaponModKits - Zeta.espWeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.espWeaponModKits - FWE Optional Worn Weapons.espEVE.espEVE - FWE Master Release.espEVE - FWE Master Release (Follower Enhanced).espEVE Operation Anchorage.espEVE - FWE with WeaponModKits.espEVE Anchorage - FWE DLC Anchorage.espMart's Mutant Mod - FWE with EVE.espRobCo Certified.espUPP - Pack 1.espUPP - Pack 2.espUPP - Original Perks.espUPP  - Quest Perks.espUPP - Experience Perks.espUPP - Beverage Perks.espUPP - Original Perks.espUPP - Pack 1.espUPP - Pack 2.espUPP  - Quest Perks.espUPP - Experience Perks.espUPP - Beverage Perks.espMTC Wasteland Travellers.espWMKAA12Shotgun.espSniperZooming.espStealthboy Recon Armor - CRAFT.esp  . Note:  Needs CRAFT.esmDCInteriors_ComboEdition.espBuildableBots v0.3a.espShadySands.espGalaxyNewsRadio100[M].espMore Hotkeys.espFaceMe-MMM.espNotSoFast.espStealth Kills Enabled.espStealth Kills Enabled - Pitt Compatibility.esp1PipboyPDA.espArefuExpandedByAzar-Radio.espBurnification.espIntoTheDeepWoods.esptubRRCompound.espMez's Merged Patch - FWE-WMK-MMM.esp

This does not look like a stable load order from my experience. In fact - it looks like a very bad idea for a load order.

Here is what I have as a functioning (and non crashing load order):

Fallout3.esmAnchorage.esmThePitt.esmBrokenSteel.esmPointLookout.esmZeta.esmUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esmHairPack.esmCRAFT.esmCALIBR.esmStreetLights.esmArefuExpandedByAzar.esmCubeExperimental (EN).esmFO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esmMart's Mutant Mod.esmMMZombieCemetery.esmPointLookout-FollowersGetToGo.esmFaceMe.esmEnhanced Weather - Rain and Snow.esmUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Operation Anchorage.espUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch - The Pitt.espUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Broken Steel.espUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Point Lookout.espUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Mothership Zeta.espRefurbish [OA] - FWE.espRefurbish [TP].espRefurbish [BS].espRefurbish [PL].espRefurbish [MZ].espDarNifiedUIF3.espFaceMe.espeyes_hairpack_en.esphair_add_npc.espFaceMe-Broken Steel.espPCIdles.espUPP - Pack 1.espUPP - Pack 2.espUPP - Original Perks.espUPP - Experience Perks.espUPP  - Quest Perks.espCRAFT - Activation Perk.espMore Hotkeys.espEcho_BatteryCharger.espHouseholdWaterPurifier.espPortableMattress.espBlackWolf Backpack.espGunnySack.espSS OTS Camera FOSE.esp1Animated Nightvision goggles.espSniperZooming.espDirectional PipLight HDR.espArefuExpandedByAzar-Radio.espGalaxyNewsRadio100[M].espGhostRadio.espmutantradio.espExistence2.0.espExpanded Megaton House V3.espMaintenanceShed.espHomesteadMotelSuite.espUrgeWashingtonBoS.esptubRRCompound.espmerc.espD.C. Confidential.espNotSoFast.espHeirApparent.espTreasure Maps_Underground.espTreasure Maps_Secrets of the Wasteland.espTreasure Maps_Bobblehead Edition.espTreasure Maps_A Fist Full of Caps.espMTC Wasteland Travellers.espMTC Wasteland Travellers (Optional)- Crowded Cities less NPCs.espCliff's_Residences Of DC - Player Version.espMoreMapMarkers.espMaxLevelWorkaround-HP-BS.espWastelandMastery.espSkillCheck.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Lvl 30 High Skills.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional VATS Realtime.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Worn Weapons.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - UFP Support.espWeaponModKits.espWMKAA12Shotgun.espWeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.espWeaponModKits - FWE Optional Worn Weapons.espWeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.espWeaponModKits - ThePitt.espWeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.espWeaponModKits - PointLookout.espWeaponModKits - Zeta.espCALIBRxMerchant.espCALIBR Ammo Schematics - CRAFT.espStealthboy Recon Armor - CRAFT.espjmschematics.espBallistics-ALL-MoreRealism.espRealFragGrenade3.espKs_DynamicSneak.espStealth Kills Enabled.espPHIG_SteadyAim.espStealth Kills Enabled - Pitt Compatibility.espBurnification.espEVE.espEVE Operation Anchorage.espEVE - FWE Master Release.espEVE - FWE Master Release (Follower Enhanced).espEVE Anchorage - FWE DLC Anchorage.espEVE - FWE with WeaponModKits.espZumbs'_Overhauled_Real_Time_Security.espWasteland Whisperer.espRobCo Certified.espBuildableBots v0.3a.espBuildablebots Robcert. addon.espRobCo Engineer - Robot Repair.espCBOv1.4.espThePitt-NoFireFollowers.espKickDogs.espReplenishment.espPrincess Better Prompts v1pt1.espMart's Mutant Mod.espMart's Mutant Mod - Feral Ghoul Rampage.espMart's Mutant Mod - Reduced Wasteland Spawns.espMart's Mutant Mod - Hunting & Looting.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.espMart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.espMart's Mutant Mod - FWE with EVE.espMart's Mutant Mod - Zombie Cementery.esp1PipboyPDA.espEnhanced Weather - Rain and Snow in Fallout.espEnhanced Weather - Weather Sounds in Interiors.espEnhanced Weather - Sneak Bonus during Storms.espEnhanced Weather - Rainbows.espFellout-Full.espFellout-Anchorage.espFellout-BrokenSteel.espFellout-PointLookout.espFellout-pipboylight.espFireLightFix.espRealistic Interior Lighting.espRealistic Interior Lighting - OA.espRealistic Interior Lighting - BS.espStreetLights - Wasteland.espmegalight.espMez's Merged Patch - FWE-WMK-MMM.espTotal active plugins: 154Total plugins: 173 - I do need to clean some out

One method I've implemented for using BOSS with oblivion is to set up another folder outside of data and copy all my esp/esm files over to it and run the tool from there. It will give the readout without touching the mods in the data folder. Since I update mods continually for Oblivion BOSS just does not keep up and this way I get what it recommends without having the frustration to sort again what it does not recognize - and for F3 that is going to be a lot for a while.

I highly encourage overhaul authors to embrace this - so much easier to just say BOSS the load order than to comb over what is apparently a noob load order. Time saver for all involved.

Once again thanks to the BOSS team.

Well actually BOSS' source code has had support to deal with FO3 for some time now, it's just that nobody stepped up to support the actual masterlist. As circumstances would have it, the nudge I gave the initial FO3 list was utterly ignored both times I mentioned it. And as fate would have it, it appears all of the active contributors to the main BOSS project are still modding Oblivion.

If I'm seeing right, you guys have forked the code for use with FO3. The only thing I figure needs to be asked is did anyone ask the BOSS team for permission to do this?

Wait - if AlitheLord didn't asked for permission then - well that is kind of wrong.

Because the readme was so similar to the regular BOSS readme with even PacificMorrowind, Random, and Arthmoor's name in there next to AlitheLord's name - I thought it all legit.

Seems to operate the same as BOSS though.

Yes, I asked PacificMorowind. He gave me the go ahead. Also if you look on TESNexus it has been uploaded by PacificMorowind.

@ Arthmoor; I thought I had PMed you too, apparently not though.

And Psymon did you download the latest masterlist from the OP? Edit2: Updated it to include those files you added. Got most of them I hope.

Could you let me know if you have any problems (in game or reasons) if the weather mods are loaded early?

@Claviticus
Don't want to be an ass or anything and your load order tool and load order are awesome, but...
you said that there was no one else doing this, but there was actually it was called FOMS http://fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=3596
Though I definitely prefer the load order of your tool

btw talking about FOMS the author is looking for a good load order, since he can't always update it cuz he's working on the program itself (the program is great with template manager, conflict detection, messages and all)

Just my two cents

Sorry for this off topic stuff, need to make myself useful somehow XD

well this is my first post over in the Fallout section... due to FO not being my type of game (which is limited to only TES games)... but adminstrating BOSS so clearing a bit of stuff up.
BOSS has codewise supported FO3 for many months, and the FO3 masterlist has been up on google code for the last month and a half or so (something like that anyways), with only a smidge of mods listed... the only thing that has changed is that someone who does play FO3 (AliTheLord) has kindly volunteered to do additions to the masterlist, and since it was over 300 esp/ms I figured it was time to post it for easier access. As mentioned above, I am totally not involved in the FO3 community, so I was not aware of another LO sorting solution having been started; if I had been I would have pmed the creator and started a dialogue - I appologize for the lack of communication there.
Also re: the post about the readme not being updated in the download... I was evidently really not paying proper attention because I uploaded two old files out of a folder of four files with two old and two ne on Sunday night... fixed and the masterlist is updated on Nexus again.
@@JustinOther (and anyone else with enough knowledge to do changes): If you're at all interested in doing more than a few changes I can certainly give you commit permisions to the svn source... easiest way to keep it all up to date and not have conflicting versions of the masterlist floating around (which is annoying and bad).
@@Arthmoor, I was planning on PMing you but hadn't gotten around to it - sorry about that.
Pacific Morrowind

The T3T Line of mods that I make are semi-popular and I think would be good on your list.

Mod Name: http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=4930
.esp Name: T3T_OutcastTechSupport.esp
Notes: Edits Outcast Tech Collection Quest, Protector Casdin, Fort Independence Second Level Interior

Mod Name: http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=3536
.esp Name: T3T_AnchorageExtras.esp
Notes: Edits Outcast Outpost Interior

Mod Name: http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=1296
.esp Name: T3T_WeaponTweaks.esp, T3T_WT_AnchorageCompanion.esp, T3T_WT_ThePittCompanion.esp, T3T_WT_BrokenSteelCompanion.esp, T3T_WT_PointLookoutCompanion.esp, T3T_WT_ZetaCompanion.esp
Notes: Edits pretty much every single weapon

Mod Name: http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=6812
.esp Name: T3T_ArmorTweaks.esp, T3T_AT_AnchorageCompanion.esp, T3T_AT_ThePittCompanion.esp, T3T_AT_BrokenSteelCompanion.esp, T3T_AT_PointLookoutCompanion.esp, T3T_AT_ZetaCompanion.esp, T3T_AT_CAS.esp
Notes: Edits most every armor in the game


Mod Name: http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=7711
.esp Name: T3T_BetterMegatonStorage.esp
Notes: Edits the My Megaton House Interior

Mod Name: http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=9053
.esp Name: T3T_MiscItemIcons.esp
Notes: Edits a handful of misc items, specifically schematic misc items

Thanks. Do they need to be loaded before or after anything specific?

Will add them now

Yes, I see now that he did upload it. Probably wasn't strictly necessary, but less confusing for people that way. The masterlist is where the real magic happens.

Don't worry about it. I was just making sure nothing funky was going on.



No worries. We've got it all sorted now and that's what matters

Well I have a suggestion. There is now BOSS, FOMS, and FOLOT all appearing to be doing largely the same thing. I admit that I haven't used any of these tools yet (my load order is pretty simple actually . . . makes FWE development less cumbersome). In anycase, I'd like to see if there is interest in posting on this board a master load order list that isn't associated with any one program or the other, but is just a general load order listing. I looked over the BOSS masterlist and it looks pretty good to me, although I admit I don't run most of those mods. Not everyone's going to to download and load these tools, and having a master list in one place that can be discussed and openly available for any of the load order tools would be a big asset.

Okay, minor rant. The FOIP program set out to manage the load order and compatiblity for the major overhauls. There is also the set of CP's developed by streetstar5 (and previously by Offkorn) on the nexus for the FWE-FOOK merger, which actually provides CP's for a lot more than just FOOK-FWE. It also includes support for project beauty, EVE, UWWUT, etc... All of this needs to be brought back under a common umbrella and framework for managing load order and compatiblity patches. I've been talking with streetstar5 some about his work, and we'll see where we get, but there are still a lot of holes to fill. For example, you can use the FWE-FOOK merger to get support for project beauty, but not just project beauty and FWE. The modularity of the FOIP framework and the standaized namaing convention is what made it useful, and I'd like to continue to expand that.

Brining it back. My hope is that a common load order master list can be used not just for managing the user experience, but also help identify the gaps and holes in compatiblity so FOIP (or whatever else) can respond appropriately.

And now I gotta go . . . cheers!

Actually, Claviticus dropped the FOLOT project when BOSS-F came online. And, I haven't seen any progress on FOMS is a long time. So, I don't think attempting to keep common resources available to all three projects will accomplish anything.

BOSS has proven itself in the Oblivion modding community, and as long as it gets proper attention here (as Alithelord has begun), BOSS-F seems to me the way to go here as well.

gothemasticator

I'm definitely on board for BOSS-F as I trusted BOSS with my plugins for Oblivion. I do feel bad about Claviticus' project coming to a halt because of this though. Perhaps he can work with Ali to make BOSS-F the best it can be...

I'm completely open to this idea; FOLOT has been given to Timeslip, who is going to change it to recognise the BOSS way of writing things. And as for FOMS, there as been some activity from the author recently. His masterlist is in a completely different format to BOSS's and takes a lot more time to add mods (in my opinion.) It does, however, offer the most functionality in the way of conflict detectors, although BOSS will warn about possible conflicts.

FOMS unfortunately crashes on start for me though.

In any case I will continue to work on the BOSS masterlist, and thus also the FOLOT built into FOMM.

I simply dont have the time to work on the FOMS masterlist.

It would be nice if BOSS-F was set up in a manner similar to John.Moonsugar's mlox for Morrowind.

Then you could compare suggested load order changes to your current load order and adopt the changes or not.