The latest masterlist completely borked my load order. While some stuff was in proper place, it moved around a bunch of things that I had been told had to load in certain spots. Is BOSS-F not working properly???

Not that it is not working right - it is just that there is not a set load order standard for all load orders at this time. BOSS is a tool really for automating load orders. As I mentioned above BOSS for oblivion has been around for a year and a half and I still rarely run it in my data folder because I'm always testing things out and trying new mods that it may not recognize. My load order is MY responsibility.

As this thing takes off it might be worth mentioning to people how to back up their load orders with FOMM. You can find that option off the top bar (called file) in FOMM then right click for the context menu then come down to export load order this will then create a txt file with your load order that looks like this:

[X] Fallout3.esm[X] Anchorage.esm[X] ThePitt.esm[X] BrokenSteel.esm[X] PointLookout.esm[X] Zeta.esm[X] Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm[X] HairPack.esm[X] FaceMe.esm[X] CRAFT.esm[X] CALIBR.esm[X] StreetLights.esm[X] ArefuExpandedByAzar.esm[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm[X] Mart's Mutant Mod.esm[X] MMZombieCemetery.esm[X] PointLookout-FollowersGetToGo.esm[X] CubeExperimental (EN).esm[X] Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow.esm[X] Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Operation Anchorage.esp[X] Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - The Pitt.esp[X] Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Broken Steel.esp[X] Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Point Lookout.esp[X] Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Mothership Zeta.esp[X] Refurbish [OA] - FWE.esp[X] Refurbish [TP].esp[X] Refurbish [BS].esp[X] Refurbish [PL].esp[X] Refurbish [MZ].esp[X] DarNifiedUIF3.esp[X] FaceMe.esp[X] FaceMe-Broken Steel.esp[X] eyes_hairpack_en.esp[X] hair_add_npc.esp[X] CRAFT - Activation Perk.esp[X] More Hotkeys.esp[X] CALIBRxMerchant.esp[X] GalaxyNewsRadio100[M].esp[X] ArefuExpandedByAzar-Radio.esp[X] GhostRadio.esp[X] mutantradio.esp[X] Existence2.0.esp[X] RadioTenpenny.esp[X] CONELRAD 640-1240.esp[X] LookoutRadio.esp[X] RadioHotkey.esp[X] PCIdles.esp[X] UPP - Pack 1.esp[X] UPP - Pack 2.esp[X] UPP - Original Perks.esp[X] UPP - Experience Perks.esp[ ] UPP - Beverage Perks.esp[X] UPP  - Quest Perks.esp[X] Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow in Fallout.esp[ ] Enhanced Weather - Radioactive Rain and Snow Plugin.esp[X] Enhanced Weather - Rainbows.esp[X] Enhanced Weather - Weather Sounds in Interiors.esp[X] Enhanced Weather - Sneak Bonus during Storms.esp[X] Fellout-Full.esp[X] Fellout-Anchorage.esp[X] Fellout-BrokenSteel.esp[X] Fellout-PointLookout.esp[X] Fellout-pipboylight.esp[X] Echo_BatteryCharger.esp[X] HouseholdWaterPurifier.esp[X] PortableMattress.esp[X] BlackWolf Backpack.esp[X] GunnySack.esp[X] SS OTS Camera FOSE.esp[X] 1Animated Nightvision goggles.esp[X] SniperZooming.esp[X] Directional PipLight HDR.esp[X] Expanded Megaton House V3.esp[X] MaintenanceShed.esp[X] HomesteadMotelSuite.esp[X] UrgeWashingtonBoS.esp[X] tubRRCompound.esp[X] merc.esp[X] D.C. Confidential.esp[X] ShadySands.esp[X] NotSoFast.esp[X] HeirApparent.esp[X] IntoTheDeepWoods.esp[X] PLweightadjust.esp[X] AReasonedArgument.esp[X] Treasure Maps_Underground.esp[X] Treasure Maps_Secrets of the Wasteland.esp[X] Treasure Maps_Bobblehead Edition.esp[X] Treasure Maps_A Fist Full of Caps.esp[X] MTC Wasteland Travellers.esp[X] MTC Wasteland Travellers (Optional)- Crowded Cities less NPCs.esp[X] Cliff's_Residences Of DC - Player Version.esp[X] DCInteriors_ComboEdition.esp[X] MoreMapMarkers.esp[X] MaxLevelWorkaround-HP-BS.esp[X] WastelandMastery.esp[X] SkillCheck.esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - UFP Support.esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Lvl 30 High Skills.esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional VATS Realtime.esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Worn Weapons.esp[X] FaceMe-FWE.esp[X] WeaponModKits.esp[X] WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp[X] WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp[X] WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp[X] WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp[X] WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp[X] WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp[X] WeaponModKits - FWE Optional Worn Weapons.esp[X] WMKAA12Shotgun.esp[X] CALIBR Ammo Schematics - CRAFT.esp[X] Stealthboy Recon Armor - CRAFT.esp[X] jmschematics.esp[X] Ballistics-ALL-MoreRealism.esp[X] RealFragGrenade3.esp[ ] FasterMorePowerfulMines.esp[X] Ks_DynamicSneak.esp[X] Stealth Kills Enabled.esp[X] Stealth Kills Enabled - Pitt Compatibility.esp[X] PHIG_SteadyAim.esp[X] EVE.esp[X] EVE - FWE Master Release.esp[X] EVE - FWE Master Release (Follower Enhanced).esp[X] EVE Operation Anchorage.esp[X] EVE - FWE with WeaponModKits.esp[X] EVE Anchorage - FWE DLC Anchorage.esp[X] Burnification.esp[X] Zumbs'_Overhauled_Real_Time_Security.esp[X] 1PipboyPDA.esp[X] Wasteland Whisperer.esp[X] RobCo Certified.esp[X] BuildableBots v0.3a.esp[X] Buildablebots Robcert. addon.esp[X] RobCo Engineer - Robot Repair.esp[X] CBOv1.4.esp[X] ThePitt-NoFireFollowers.esp[ ] DogmeatEssentialToken.esp[X] KickDogs.esp[X] Replenishment.esp[X] Princess Better Prompts v1pt1.esp[X] Mart's Mutant Mod.esp[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - Feral Ghoul Rampage.esp[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - Hunting & Looting.esp[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - Reduced Wasteland Spawns.esp[ ] Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp[ ] Mart's Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn.esp[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - Zombie Cementery.esp[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE with EVE.esp[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.esp[X] FaceMe-MMM.esp[X] FireLightFix.esp[X] Realistic Interior Lighting.esp[X] Realistic Interior Lighting - OA.esp[X] Realistic Interior Lighting - BS.esp[X] StreetLights - Wasteland.esp[X] megalight.esp[X] Mez's Merged Patch - FWE-WMK-MMM.esp

Save this file and then if you want that load order back find that same context menu and click import load orer and find this file again and it will rearrange the load order accordingly. You can even make variations.

But really this is nothing compared to what I deal with in Oblivion, where I have over 400 mods that just esp/esm and at least another 100-200 of replacers and other such things.

Mez-

I agree with Arthmoor - once the reports start pouring in people will fill that thing up fast and you will be verging on over a 500 before you know it and exponentially up from there. Since there are popular overhauls the key elements are going to be finding if and how they work together, then annotating the master list with what works with what, or to seek an update, etc.

Even in this master plan load order of oblivion people are still reporting small conflcits and suggesting nudging things this way and that way. And it is at times a forum or jumping off point for finding resolutions to conflcits.

Well it's all good. Like I have mentioned before my knowledge of load ordering isn't the greatest (but I'm learning). I'm actually getting the worst kind of crashes now-the dreaded random ones that happen for no apparent reason (as in there's no logical reason for them to happen because they seem to happen at any time or place). The more accurate BOSS-F gets, the better things will be though. I used BOSS with Oblivion to try to learn what went where, not to replace my responsibility to properly arrange my load order...

Le tme know which bits have been randomly jumbled around, and also if changing there position has any effect on crashes.

It's all well and good looking for conflicts in FO3edit, but it's no substitute for actually playing with your load order

Okay, so I noticed your disclaimer about the master list, so here it is using the actual latest master list.

Unknown Mods

Fallout3.esmPointLookout.esmAnchorage.esmThePitt.esmBrokenSteel.esmZeta.esmUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esmHairPack.esmCRAFT.esmCALIBR.esmFOOK2 - Main.esmFOOK2 - [[censored]] World And Neighbourhood Kit.esmFOOK2 - [DIK] DLC Improvement Kit.esmFO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esmMart's Mutant Mod.esmRTS.esmUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Operation Anchorage.espUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch - The Pitt.espUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Broken Steel.espUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Point Lookout.espUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Mothership Zeta.espCRAFT - Activation Perk.espCALIBRxMerchant.espKTs_Centercamera.espLongerDeathCamera.espUPP - Pack 1.espUPP - Pack 2.espUPP - Original Perks.espUPP - Experience Perks.espUPP - Beverage Perks.esp1Animated Nightvision goggles.espBinoculars.espSniperZooming.espClover Makeover - Asian Bedraggled.espDCInteriors_ComboEdition.espFOOK2 - Main.espFOOK2 - [EVE] Energy Visuals Enhanced.espFOOK2 - [DIK] DLC Improvement Kit.espFOOK2 - Mothership Zeta.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - UFP Support.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Worn Weapons.espTailor Maid.espTailor Maid Anchorage.espTailor Maid PITT.espTailor Maid Brokensteel.espTailor Maid ZETA.espWeaponModKits.espWeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.espWeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.espWeaponModKits - ThePitt.espWeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.espWeaponModKits - PointLookout.espWeaponModKits - Zeta.espWeaponModKits - FOOK.espWeaponModKits - FWE Optional Worn Weapons.espWMKAA12Shotgun.espKneecapper Linked.espSolar-Scorcher.espWealisitc Wifles.espjoefoxx Gun Mod v1.0 Normal Tracers.espStealthboy Recon Armor - CRAFT.espEVE.espEVE - FWE Master Release.espEVE Operation Anchorage.espEVE - FWE with WeaponModKits.espEVE Anchorage - FWE DLC Anchorage.espZumbs'_Overhauled_Real_Time_Security.espBuildableBots v0.3a.espMart's Mutant Mod.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.espMart's Mutant Mod - No DLC Increased Spawns.espMart's Mutant Mod - No Floaters.espMart's Mutant Mod - No Geckos.espMart's Mutant Mod - No Size Scaling.espMart's Mutant Mod - No Wanamingos.espMart's Mutant Mod - Hunting & Looting.espMart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.espMart's Mutant Mod - Reduced Wasteland Spawns.espMart's Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn.espMart's Mutant Mod - FOOK2.espMart's Mutant Mod - FOOK2 - DIK.espMart's Mutant Mod - FWE with EVE.espMart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.espPrototype Medic Armor Upgrade.espKillableKidsOptional.espUsableCigarettes.espipipextended.espAction_Boy_hacking.espKeep Anchorage Equipment.espVault-Tec Experimental Dimensional Saf.espMagic Pip-Light (50 Brightness).espF3UmpaAnimation.espPortable Camp.esporoLookoutFix.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - FOOK Support - Classic DR.espFWE - FOOK DLC Support - Classic DR.espUPP  - Quest Perks.espFWE - Weightless Ammo.espRTS_Life_Of_Raider_Addon.esp

Here is my working load order, running the same mods..

FOLOT Order (Working Fine)

Fallout3.esmAnchorage.esmThePitt.esmBrokenSteel.esmPointLookout.esmZeta.esmUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esmHairPack.esmCRAFT.esmCALIBR.esmFOOK2 - Main.esmFOOK2 - [DIK] DLC Improvement Kit.esmFO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esmMart's Mutant Mod.esmRTS.esmFOOK2 - [[censored]] World And Neighbourhood Kit.esmUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Operation Anchorage.espUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch - The Pitt.espUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Broken Steel.espUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Point Lookout.espUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Mothership Zeta.espCRAFT - Activation Perk.espKTs_Centercamera.espLongerDeathCamera.espZumbs'_Overhauled_Real_Time_Security.espDCInteriors_ComboEdition.espCALIBRxMerchant.espBinoculars.esp1Animated Nightvision goggles.espClover Makeover - Asian Bedraggled.espWMKAA12Shotgun.espKneecapper Linked.espSolar-Scorcher.espSniperZooming.espWealisitc Wifles.espjoefoxx Gun Mod v1.0 Normal Tracers.espPrototype Medic Armor Upgrade.espStealthboy Recon Armor - CRAFT.espKillableKidsOptional.espUsableCigarettes.espipipextended.espAction_Boy_hacking.espKeep Anchorage Equipment.espVault-Tec Experimental Dimensional Safe.espBuildableBots v0.3a.espMagic Pip-Light (50 Brightness).espF3UmpaAnimation.espPortable Camp.esporoLookoutFix.espUPP - Pack 1.espUPP - Pack 2.espUPP - Original Perks.espUPP  - Quest Perks.espUPP - Experience Perks.espUPP - Beverage Perks.espEVE.espEVE - FWE Master Release.espEVE Operation Anchorage.espEVE - FWE with WeaponModKits.espEVE Anchorage - FWE DLC Anchorage.espTailor Maid.espTailor Maid Anchorage.espTailor Maid Brokensteel.espTailor Maid PITT.espTailor Maid ZETA.espFOOK2 - Main.espFOOK2 - [DIK] DLC Improvement Kit.espFOOK2 - Mothership Zeta.espFOOK2 - [EVE] Energy Visuals Enhanced.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).espFO3 Wanderers Edition - UFP Support.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Worn Weapons.espFWE - Weightless Ammo.espMart's Mutant Mod.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.espMart's Mutant Mod - Reduced Wasteland Spawns.espMart's Mutant Mod - No DLC Increased Spawns.espMart's Mutant Mod - Hunting & Looting.espMart's Mutant Mod - No Geckos.espMart's Mutant Mod - No Wanamingos.espMart's Mutant Mod - No Floaters.espMart's Mutant Mod - No Size Scaling.espMart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.espMart's Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn.espMart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.espMart's Mutant Mod - FWE with EVE.espMart's Mutant Mod - FOOK2.espMart's Mutant Mod - FOOK2 - DIK.espWeaponModKits.espWeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.espWeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.espWeaponModKits - ThePitt.espWeaponModKits - PointLookout.espWeaponModKits - Zeta.espWeaponModKits - FOOK.espWeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.espWeaponModKits - FWE Optional Worn Weapons.espRTS_Life_Of_Raider_Addon.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - FOOK Support - Classic DR.espFWE - FOOK DLC Support - Classic DR.esp

Try http://www.filefront.com/15050761/masterlist.txt.

Let me know if you still get crashes at start up.

I see that the Masterlist for Fallout has been added to the http://code.google.com/p/better-oblivion-sorting-software/source/browse/FO3Masterlist/masterlist.txt page. Is this going be the primarly location for this then? That works well enough for me if that's the case.

Do I also understand correctly that BOSS and the mod sorter in the upcoming version of FOMM will both use this same list?

Lastly, I have a few comments for the FWE section:

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Lvl 30 More Skills.esp
?? Use either "FO3 Wanderers Edition - Lvl 30 Balance" OR "FO3 Wanderers Edition - Lvl 30 More Skills" remove the double ??
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp
ADD ? Use either "FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced.esp" OR "FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp"

For the EVE section:

EVE Main - FWE Master Release.esp
ADD: This is the old file and should be removed. "EVE - FWE Master Release.esp" is the correct file.

Middle Misc

Classic Fallout Weapons BETA.esp
Per FOIP, this file should be placed up above FOOK.

OK done.

Although

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Lvl 30 More Skills.esp?? Use either "FO3 Wanderers Edition - Lvl 30 Balance" OR "FO3 Wanderers Edition - Lvl 30 More Skills" remove the double ??

Does this mean you can use both?

And at the moment it will be the primary location, unless anyone has any objections?

Either/Or means one or the other; not both.

Sorry for the confusion, what the text says is correct, I'm just saying that there are two "?" (question marks) at the start of the line. A typo that's all.

Very nearly. fomm has some extra tags that show and hide warnings depending on which other mods are active, so I've replaced a lot of the ? comments with : and " tags to make use of it. The order itself is the same.

Edit: Any interest in doing the same thing in BOSS btw? It seems a bit of a waste always printing out 'Requires xxx' comments when you have the load order already sitting in front of you to check against.

Uh... I goofed on lines #153 - 159: It's "MyFOOK2 - Black & White Tranquility Lane.esp" and the other MyFOOK2 plugins also need a '2'. Wups...

Nah, I just tried the list you gave me, and it still crashes\freezes..

The unknown mods are down to one..

Unknown mod file: RTS_Life_Of_Raider_Addon.esp ; Part of Real Time Settler(RTS)

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Edit2: Okay, so I couldn't figure out the exact cause, but I had a number of mods that were likely causing issues..

Action Boy Hacking + Zorts Real Time Security(I think this effects hacking, it may be FOOK, something changed it..)..
Wealistic Wifles + WMK\FOOK\MMM etc,..
Joe Fox Tracers

Working Order

Fallout3.esmAnchorage.esmThePitt.esmBrokenSteel.esmPointLookout.esmZeta.esmUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esmHairPack.esmCRAFT.esmCALIBR.esmFOOK2 - Main.esmFOOK2 - [DIK] DLC Improvement Kit.esmFOOK2 - [[censored]] World And Neighbourhood Kit.esmFO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esmMart's Mutant Mod.esmRTS.esmUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Operation Anchorage.espUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch - The Pitt.espUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Broken Steel.espUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Point Lookout.espUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Mothership Zeta.espCRAFT - Activation Perk.espCALIBRxMerchant.espKTs_Centercamera.espLongerDeathCamera.espUPP - Pack 1.espUPP - Pack 2.espUPP - Original Perks.espUPP  - Quest Perks.espUPP - Experience Perks.espUPP - Beverage Perks.esp1Animated Nightvision goggles.espBinoculars.espSniperZooming.espClover Makeover - Asian Bedraggled.espDCInteriors_ComboEdition.espFOOK2 - Main.espFOOK2 - [DIK] DLC Improvement Kit.espFOOK2 - Mothership Zeta.espFOOK2 - [EVE] Energy Visuals Enhanced.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - UFP Support.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Worn Weapons.espFWE - Weightless Ammo.espTailor Maid.espTailor Maid Anchorage.espTailor Maid PITT.espTailor Maid Brokensteel.espTailor Maid ZETA.espWeaponModKits.espWeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.espWeaponModKits - ThePitt.espWeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.espWeaponModKits - PointLookout.espWeaponModKits - Zeta.espWMKAA12Shotgun.espWeaponModKits - FOOK.espWeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.espWeaponModKits - FWE Optional Worn Weapons.espKneecapper Linked.espSolar-Scorcher.espStealthboy Recon Armor - CRAFT.espEVE.espEVE Operation Anchorage.espEVE - FWE Master Release.espEVE - FWE Master Release (Follower Enhanced).espEVE Anchorage - FWE DLC Anchorage.espEVE - FWE with WeaponModKits.espZumbs'_Overhauled_Real_Time_Security.espBuildableBots v0.3a.espMart's Mutant Mod.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.espMart's Mutant Mod - No DLC Increased Spawns.espMart's Mutant Mod - No Floaters.espMart's Mutant Mod - No Geckos.espMart's Mutant Mod - No Size Scaling.espMart's Mutant Mod - No Wanamingos.espMart's Mutant Mod - Hunting & Looting.espMart's Mutant Mod - Reduced Wasteland Spawns.espMart's Mutant Mod - FOOK2.espMart's Mutant Mod - FOOK2 - DIK.espMart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.espMart's Mutant Mod - FWE with EVE.espPrototype Medic Armor Upgrade.espKillableKidsOptional.espUsableCigarettes.espipipextended.espKeep Anchorage Equipment.espVault-Tec Experimental Dimensional Safe.espMagic Pip-Light (50 Brightness).espF3UmpaAnimation.espPortable Camp.esporoLookoutFix.espRTS_Life_Of_Raider_Addon.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - FOOK Support - Classic DR.espFWE - FOOK DLC Support - Classic DR.espMez's Merged Patch - FWE-WMK-MMM.esp

Fixed that for you During installation of ZORTS, you have to decide if you want to disable the hacking minigame or not.

If you choose to disable the minigame, it will not start. I'm unsure if this gives problems with Action Boy Hacking. The http://www.pc-game-mods.com/download/fallout3/hackingiseasier.php I could find on http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Action+Boy+Hacking%22 seems to be down at the moment, but the http://74.125.77.132/search?q=cache:mBTr89P7EUQJ:www.pc-game-mods.com/download/fallout3/hackingiseasier.php+%22Action+Boy+Hacking%22 says it works by making it so there is only 1 word when you hack any terminal in Fallout 3, which suggests that Action Boy Hacking will likely not work when activating a terminal.

If the minigame is left enabled, there should be no problems, as ZORTS uses another entry point to start hacking (press 'H'), bypassing the minigame all together. This last point is why there should be no conflicts with FOOK or FWE, even though they include Explosive Entry and Menu Based Hacking and Picking. When the minigame is enabled, Action Boy Hacking should work correctly.

I'm not sure where I should put this, but here are some mods that are unknown.
Unknown mod file: Delay ThePitt + Anchorage.esp
Unknown mod file: UndergroundHideout.esp
Unknown mod file: UrgeSpringvaleHome.esp
Unknown mod file: DanWessonPPC357(CALIBR).esp
Unknown mod file: HZ_M92SE.esp
Unknown mod file: AsharasPresets.esp
Unknown mod file: kikaiEquipment.esp
Unknown mod file: Tactical Vest CIRAS.esp
Unknown mod file: Wasteland and Bog Outfits.esp
Unknown mod file: Backpacks - SedPL.esp
Unknown mod file: Savage Wasteland - Fewer Gun Wielding Maniacs.esp
Unknown mod file: lessviewdistance.esp
Unknown mod file: SShop.esp
Unknown mod file: 18inchCSLatinMachete.esp

the following mods appear to be unrecognized by BOSS. just though i'd add my two cents worth



unknown mod file: Selected Containers Respawn - Emptied Trash Cans in Player Homes.esp
Unknown mod file: Selected Containers Respawn.esp
Unknown mod file: FOOK2 - Main Level Up Fix 1.3.esp
Unknown mod file: FOOK2 - DIK Level Up Fix 1.3.esp
Unknown mod file: Sally Fix 2.1.esp
Unknown mod file: TL Freeze.esp
Unknown mod file: TL [Color].esp
Unknown mod file: P94-95.esp
Unknown mod file: [DIK] DLC Transition Hotfix.esp
Unknown mod file: Vault 87 [Script Reversion].esp
Unknown mod file: BRUTE_GunKnockdownsSpecialScriptedEditionTHEPITT.esp
Unknown mod file: BRUTE_GunKnockdownsSpecialScriptedEditionANCHORAGE.esp
Unknown mod file: BRUTE_GunKnockdownsSpecialScriptedEditionTHEPOINT.esp
Unknown mod file: PHIG_GunKnockdownsSpecialScriptedEdition.esp
Unknown mod file: PHIG_GunKnockdownsTOUGHERSUPERS.esp
Unknown mod file: PHIG_IncreasedDamageLOWERLEVELHP.esp
Unknown mod file: PHIG_IncreasedLocationalDamage.esp
Unknown mod file: PHIG_IncreasedDamageLITE.esp
Unknown mod file: PHIG_IncreasedArmor.esp
Unknown mod file: Tactical Weapons by gRs Frederyck.esp
Unknown mod file: SR25Rifle.esp
Unknown mod file: VanishingPiles.esp
Unknown mod file: BusworldV1.05.esp
Unknown mod file: Fellout-SOTD.esp
Unknown mod file: Kick Dogmeat.esp
Unknown mod file: MiniHideout.esp
Unknown mod file: 3EFdrgplate.esp
Unknown mod file: 3EFdrg.esp
Unknown mod file: 3EFhelmlessstealthsuit.esp
Unknown mod file: Slower Degradation (-50%).esp
Unknown mod file: Slower Levelling - slow.esp
Unknown mod file: CombatEnhanced-Package v02.esp
Unknown mod file: Force Start The Pitt.esp
Unknown mod file: PHIG_SteadyAimPERKONLY.esp
Unknown mod file: NVG Activator Crash Fix [Experimental].esp

Sorry bout the name mix up..

I decided to use your mod instead of action boy hacking, so it's not really an issue.

But it's nice to know that we can rule that out as the cause of my intro crashes..

unknown mod file: Selected Containers Respawn - Emptied Trash Cans in Player Homes.esp
Unknown mod file: Selected Containers Respawn.esp
These can really go anywhere, but are merged into FOOK2 v1.1. The first .esp is also in FWE and should be removed if one has FWE and/or FOOK2 v1.1
Unknown mod file: FOOK2 - Main Level Up Fix 1.3.esp
Unknown mod file: FOOK2 - DIK Level Up Fix 1.3.esp
Unknown mod file: Sally Fix 2.1.esp
Unknown mod file: TL Freeze.esp
Unknown mod file: TL [Color].esp
Unknown mod file: P94-95.esp
Unknown mod file: [DIK] DLC Transition Hotfix.esp
Unknown mod file: Vault 87 [Script Reversion].esp
Unknown mod file: NVG Activator Crash Fix [Experimental].esp
Unknown mod file: Force Start The Pitt.esp
[color="#00FF00"]These won't be needed after FOOK2 v1.1, but should load after all FOOK2 .esp's for the interim.[/color]
Unknown mod file: BRUTE_GunKnockdownsSpecialScriptedEditionTHEPITT.esp
Unknown mod file: BRUTE_GunKnockdownsSpecialScriptedEditionANCHORAGE.esp
Unknown mod file: BRUTE_GunKnockdownsSpecialScriptedEditionTHEPOINT.esp
Unknown mod file: PHIG_GunKnockdownsSpecialScriptedEdition.esp
Unknown mod file: PHIG_GunKnockdownsTOUGHERSUPERS.esp
Unknown mod file: PHIG_IncreasedDamageLOWERLEVELHP.esp
Unknown mod file: PHIG_IncreasedLocationalDamage.esp
Unknown mod file: PHIG_IncreasedDamageLITE.esp
Unknown mod file: PHIG_IncreasedArmor.esp
Unknown mod file: Tactical Weapons by gRs Frederyck.esp
Unknown mod file: SR25Rifle.esp
Unknown mod file: VanishingPiles.esp
Unknown mod file: BusworldV1.05.esp
Unknown mod file: Fellout-SOTD.esp
Unknown mod file: Kick Dogmeat.esp
Unknown mod file: MiniHideout.esp
Unknown mod file: 3EFdrgplate.esp
Unknown mod file: 3EFdrg.esp
Unknown mod file: 3EFhelmlessstealthsuit.esp
Unknown mod file: Slower Degradation (-50%).esp
Unknown mod file: Slower Levelling - slow.esp
Unknown mod file: CombatEnhanced-Package v02.esp
Unknown mod file: PHIG_SteadyAimPERKONLY.esp
[color="#00FF00"]I'm not sure about the rest[/color]


Claviticus: Knock W4NK up a notch so it's loading before DIK and place FOOK's EVE plugin directly after FOOK2 - Main.esp. In both instances, IIRC, those will be inadvertantly overwriting their counterparts.

Thanks.

I have another change for the list..

Clover Makeover - Asian Bedraggled.esp

This needs to be moved towards the end, something was conflicting with it in it's current position.. (Probably any appearance changing mods for her need moved..)

Here is how the updated list looks.

Fallout3.esmAnchorage.esmThePitt.esmBrokenSteel.esmPointLookout.esmZeta.esmUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esmHairPack.esmCRAFT.esmCALIBR.esmFOOK2 - Main.esmFOOK2 - [[censored]] World And Neighbourhood Kit.esmFOOK2 - [DIK] DLC Improvement Kit.esmFO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esmMart's Mutant Mod.esmRTS.esmUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Operation Anchorage.espUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch - The Pitt.espUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Broken Steel.espUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Point Lookout.espUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Mothership Zeta.espCRAFT - Activation Perk.espCALIBRxMerchant.espKTs_Centercamera.espLongerDeathCamera.espUPP - Pack 1.espUPP - Pack 2.espUPP - Original Perks.espUPP  - Quest Perks.espUPP - Experience Perks.espUPP - Beverage Perks.esp1Animated Nightvision goggles.espBinoculars.espSniperZooming.espDCInteriors_ComboEdition.espFOOK2 - Main.espFOOK2 - [EVE] Energy Visuals Enhanced.espFOOK2 - [DIK] DLC Improvement Kit.espFOOK2 - Mothership Zeta.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - UFP Support.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Worn Weapons.espFWE - Weightless Ammo.espTailor Maid.espTailor Maid Anchorage.espTailor Maid PITT.espTailor Maid Brokensteel.espTailor Maid ZETA.espWeaponModKits.espWeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.espWeaponModKits - ThePitt.espWeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.espWeaponModKits - PointLookout.espWeaponModKits - Zeta.espWMKAA12Shotgun.espWeaponModKits - FOOK.espWeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.espWeaponModKits - FWE Optional Worn Weapons.espKneecapper Linked.espSolar-Scorcher.espStealthboy Recon Armor - CRAFT.espEVE.espEVE Operation Anchorage.espEVE - FWE Master Release.espEVE - FWE Master Release (Follower Enhanced).espEVE Anchorage - FWE DLC Anchorage.espEVE - FWE with WeaponModKits.espZumbs'_Overhauled_Real_Time_Security.espBuildableBots v0.3a.espMart's Mutant Mod.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.espMart's Mutant Mod - No DLC Increased Spawns.espMart's Mutant Mod - No Floaters.espMart's Mutant Mod - No Geckos.espMart's Mutant Mod - No Size Scaling.espMart's Mutant Mod - No Wanamingos.espMart's Mutant Mod - Hunting & Looting.espMart's Mutant Mod - Reduced Wasteland Spawns.espMart's Mutant Mod - FOOK2.espMart's Mutant Mod - FOOK2 - DIK.espMart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.espMart's Mutant Mod - FWE with EVE.espPrototype Medic Armor Upgrade.espKillableKidsOptional.espUsableCigarettes.espipipextended.espKeep Anchorage Equipment.espVault-Tec Experimental Dimensional Safe.espMagic Pip-Light (50 Brightness).espF3UmpaAnimation.espPortable Camp.esporoLookoutFix.esp[b]Clover Makeover - Asian Bedraggled.esp[/b]RTS_Life_Of_Raider_Addon.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - FOOK Support - Classic DR.espFWE - FOOK DLC Support - Classic DR.espMez's Merged Patch - FWE-WMK-MMM.esp

I don't know how plausible this is, but I have a feature request. Is there anyway that you could make boss parse some sort of tag for unknown mods? for example, putting in the esp file name would put it in the general area of other weapons mods, would be for clothing, that sort of thing? It would make maintaining the masterlist alot easier, I would think, with only specific, must place in this position mods needing to be added to it.

It would also make it alot easier for folks who don't know alot about load orders to rearrange mods that still cause trouble, since they'll know roughly where mods of those type generally belong.

So far, Alternate Start Roleplayers isn't noticed in the masterlist, if this was already rectified, I apologize but I didn't see it mentioned in the thread unless I'm blind.
Alternate Start Roleplayers Link:
http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=1784

Alternate Start - Roleplayers.esp
(There should be a reminder that the trigger fix version is installed)
AS-R CALIBR Patch ONLY.esp
(Required for FOOK/CALIBR compatibility)

I am unsure where exactly they should go, but I have it after FOOK and there haven't been any issues yet.

I noticed that Busworld 1.05 can be unstable but the alternate esp called BusworldV1.05noexpl.esp is far more stable so it is recommended for people having problems with the normal version. Also thank you for fixing your load order for Robco Certified so it is below the Builable robots and the addon.

Here is a list of the duplicate entries and their locations in the latest masterlist:

1PipboyPDA.esp - Middle Misc C1PipboyPDA.esp - POSSIBLY SORTED MOD LISTBurnification.esp - Middle Misc ABurnification.esp - POSSIBLY SORTED MOD LISTCBOv1.4.esp - Early misc BCBOv1.4.esp - Middle Misc BClover Makeover - Asian Bedraggled.esp - NPCClover Makeover - Asian Bedraggled.esp - Later MiscFO3 Wanderers Edition - FOOK Support.esp - Fallout Wanderer's EditionFO3 Wanderers Edition - FOOK Support.esp - LastLingsfinerthings.esm - ESMsLingsFinerThings.esm - ESMsLingsFinerThings.esp - Early Loading ModsLingsFinerThings.esp - Early Loading ModsNVG Activator Crash Fix [Experimental].esp - Middle Misc ANVG Activator Crash Fix [Experimental].esp - Middle Misc BPointLookout-FollowersGetToGo.esm - ESMsPointLookout-FollowersGetToGo.esm - ESMsPrincess Better Prompts v1pt1.esp - Load EarlyPrincess Better Prompts v1pt1.esp - Middle Misc BRobCo Certified.esp - Middle Misc BRobCo Certified.esp - Middle Misc BStealth Kills Enabled - Pitt Compatibility.esp - Early misc BStealth Kills Enabled - Pitt Compatibility.esp - Middle Misc AStealth Kills Enabled.esp - Early misc BStealth Kills Enabled.esp - Middle Misc AStealthboy Recon Armor - CRAFT.esp - Weapons\Armours\clothesStealthboy Recon Armor - CRAFT.esp - Middle Misc AtubRRCompound.esp - Early misc BtubRRCompound.esp - Early misc BWasteland Weather Overhaul .9.esp - WeatherWasteland Weather Overhaul .9.esp - POSSIBLY SORTED MOD LIST

Forget what I said about Robco Certified being in the right place since it isn't. It shows in the list as being above Buildable Robots and the addon that makes both work together. When I use BOSS it puts Robco Certified below Buildable Robots and the addon which is the wrong place and causes a crash. The way it shows in the list is correct but what is does when I run the program is different.

EDIT: Nevermind like the person above me said it was in there twice and the first one was the correct one but was being overwritten by the second one.

In the NPC section there there should be a question mark before

Requires both MMM and Point Lookout DLC

after Project Beauty- Point Lookout MMM.esp.

Edit:
Fellout-SOTD.esp should come immediately after Fellout-Full.esp and both should have a comment to use only one.

Edit:
In Weapons section there seems to be an incomplete line: HZ_M92SE

Searching the Nexus for that found nothing. From a quick google it should be HZ_M92SE.esp