New part of water mod Skyrimized water:

• Skyrimized Waters HD BLUE - SI Addon.esp Version 1.7. Checksum: B74169A7

The other similar is without BLUE in name. Link: http://tes.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=41599

Probably this SI Addon (as opposed to main plugin) doesn't need C.Water tag as said by Lethys90 in comments:

Hey I just wanted to say Thank you to everyone at the BOSS Team for making such a wonderful resource for us modders and mod users to use. You guys really help tons, and I want to personally thank you for all of your hard work!

Another day, another set of questions:

1. Start menu shortcuts. What should they be? (All going in a BOSS folder)

• Uninstall
  
• BOSS GUI
  
• BOSS
  
• View Main ReadMe (in Docs subfolder)
  
• View User Rules ReadMe (in Docs subfolder)
  
• View Masterlist Syntax Documentation (in Docs subfolder)
  
• View API ReadMe (in Docs subfolder)
  
• View Copyright Licenses (in Docs subfolder)

I'd say that we don't need "BOSS - Oblivion", "BOSS - Skyrim", etc. any more because you can choose that when you launch BOSS or at any time when using BOSS GUI.

2. Installer options. I'm removing the "delete old BOSS files minus userlist" and "delete userlist" options, as by default the installer will now move your userlist (and BOSS.ini, which will be renamed BOSS.ini.old) to the new location and delete everything else. I'll keep the on-finish "run BOSS" and "view readme" options. The uninstaller will retain the option to keep your userlist and BOSS.ini, so that they can be moved by the installer (as when upgrading the previous version's uninstaller is run before the new version's installer).

In terms of default path, if the installer detects only one game, it will install BOSS to that game's folder, otherwise it will install to "C:\BOSS". Whatever path is default can of course be edited by typing or by GUI folder selection.

Sound good?

Added.

Just to be thorough: if no move is required (i.e. previously upgraded & moved to the new locations), the uninstaller is still run with the userlist and BOSS.INI options? If so, all looks good to me.

-Dubious-

Yes, that's correct.

• Blue-Glass-Extra-Set.esp Checksum: FE3E6D0C http://tes.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=2511
  
• Insanity's Blue Glass Armor.esp Checksum: 18B85285 http://tesalliance.org/forums/index.php?/files/file/241-insanitys-blue-glass-armor/

Found two new glass sets (first one with weapons too). Both mods add glass to two shops.

As for the new BOSS installation, IMHO it looks coherent and logical. Thank you for the HUGE and AMAZING job you do to this essential tool!

Probably me being stupid, but is the plan to have BOSS installed in separate folder from any of the games so that there is a single executable that covers all installed games?

On the assumption that this is the plan, then I think BOSS should still be in a separate folder even if there is only one game installed. This would mean that when (if) another game is installed, you would not have to reinstall BOSS for the new game.

Also, will the Userlist, Masterlist and INI files be held in the BOSS installation directory (perhaps within folder names that match the games with which they are associated) or will they be stored within the games folder structure?

Will the old INI settings be applied to the new INI file or will preferences need to be applied after each install?

As always, many thanks for the continuing work you are doing on this invaluable utility.

I've finished the big chunk of improvement work for v2.0. From the readme:

Of course, I've still got a bunch of things I want to get done, but this marks a technically complete state: if I had to release a new version tommorrow, I could release this and it wouldn't be missing bits. As such, I'm looking for people to beta test the changes made thus far. PM me if you're interested.

Yes.

Good point, I'll have a think about it.

I posted the new directory structure earlier in the thread. Only one ini file, but masterlist, userlist, BOSS Log and modlists will be individual to each game, stored in subfolders of the BOSS folder.

Old ini settings will not be applied, since the entries vary between releases and I'd have to cover the complete history of entries if so.

@wrinklyninja: For thi new release, please make the BOSS installation directory customizable during the installation wizard, as I have a beef with things trying to install in C: without giving me the option to change it (having practically no space in C:). I am sure BOSS does not suffer this issue at the mo, but wanted to make sure as you work on this new release.

It is customisable.

Unrecognized Plugin:

http://tes.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=41696

TES4Edit reports:
ITM = 0
UDR = 14

Dirty CRC = AB48455D

Viva BOSS !

That reminds me, I've been meaning to ask, where in TES4Edit does it report the number of ITM and UDR records for a dirty mod? I can't for the life of me find them.

In the "Messages" tab, it'll say along the lines of this;

For ITM - [Removing "Identical to Master" records done] Processed Records: 2209 Removed Records: 0 Elapsed Time: 00:00
For UDR - [Undeleting and Disabling References done] Processed Records: 2209 Undeleted Records: 0 Elapsed Time: 00:00

Added.

Added.

Double post, but:

Skyrim's 1.4.26 (beta) patch changes how load order is decided in such a way that BOSS now has to access the information on which plugins are active and which plugins are inactive. Since it can read that info, that opens up the possibilities for new features across all games BOSS supports, since the info is stored in the same way.

So, what features do you think that BOSS could benefit from having using this information? I'm thinking:

1. Some sort of visual indication of what plugins are active (perhaps a green "Active" label?) in the BOSS Log, with a "Hide Inactive Plugins" filter.
2. A new conditional that detects the active/inactive status of a plugin and that can be used alongside warning or error messages to provide "This should be active!"-type warnings.

This would be a boon especially to FCOM installation.

A known conflict warning would be nice.

For instance, "only one SDR Perks and Patches .esp should be active", and red-line both.

I suggest adding the NoMerge tag to Cobl Bookjackets.esp (see http://tes.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=24890).

It already has the Graphics tag, which is correct. It's strictly a graphics replacer so there's not really a reason to merge anything else from the mod, and the tags would then be consistent with other graphics-only book replacers. The documentation also suggests the ESP should be deactivated and just imported.

A few unrecognized mods, all are clean, all are just new outfits so not bothering with a link (also a couple are kinda twitchy in terms of whats allowable to be linked to here anyway)

Throne Armor.esp
CRC: C0A7112A

Sinnocence.esp
CRC: A62AE985

MakotoOutfit.esp
CRC: C3F528C1
Must Load After VipCxj_HighHeels.esp

Hemingweys Capes Improved Merchants.esp (CRC FD2BF13D) has one Identical to Master record that can be cleaned. It's a reference to a static from Oblivion.esm:

Removing: [REFR:0001DC16] (places ChorrolFGInterior01Basemant [STAT:0002B985] in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of ChorrolFightersGuildBasemant "Chorrol Fighters Guild Basemant" [CELL:0001C93F])
[Removing "Identical to Master" records done] Processed Records: 225 Removed Records: 1 Elapsed Time: 00:00

Hello BOSS master,

I've got a complete new set of .esps and .dll coming soon that will replace the old set. The new and old should not be used in conjunction with each other. Details follow:

Old:
Sneaking Detection Recalibrated.esp
SDR Perks and Patches - Nehrim.esp
SDR Perks and Patches - Oblivion.esp
SneakingDetectionRecalibrated.dll

New:
SDR_Core.esp
> required
> masterless
> requires SDR_obse.dll
> requires AddActorValues.dll
> requires OBSE v20+
SDR_obse.dll
> required
> requires OBSE v20+
SDR_NPC Behavior.esp
> optional
> SDR_Core.esp is a master
> conflicts with SM Combat Hide which has been folded in (with permission)
SDR_Perks And Patches (Nehrim).esp
> optional
> SDR_Core.esp is a master
> Nehrim.esm is not a master, but still required
SDR_Perks And Patches (Oblvion).esp
> optional
> SDR_Core.esp is a master
> Oblivion.esm is a master

Note: only the Perks and Patches that match the game world being playing (Oblivion/Nehrim) should be activated

Position should be basically the same as before in the order above.

EDIT: although it probably doesn't actually matter, to be on the safe side, SDR should probably load after any mods that add races and creatures, since the new version checks model paths and race names to assign vision types.

Let me know if you have any questions.

saebel

• strotisAyleidClutter.esp Checksum: DF337A9C http://tes.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=41558

This unrecognised mod adds clutter to one of the ruins. So I doubt it needs a tag.

Sorry for the delay in additions, I'm throwing all my free time into getting the new load order system set up for Skyrim. I should have time for additions tomorrow.

Not a problem. I knew you were busy. My new stuff is in beta, and in all honesty, having it load last in the load order doesn't really hurt anything, so take whatever time you need as far as I'm concerned.

Oh the Skyrim situation is by far more critical, and I say that as someone who doesn't even own it.