[REL] BOSS for Oblivion : IV - Oblivion

» Wed May 02, 2012 10:59 pm

I shall add the reported plugins when I get the chance.

problems ...

I just got one of my installs up to speed with Nehrim - fresh install and ported only the installers.dat and similar files over to then read the BAIN archive the same as old install.

All good - no problems with bash, edit, obmm, etc.

BOSS not working right. When I have this clone/image active and update the masterlist I get this error:

Fallout:NV? I do have that installed on a completely seperate hard drive and I've not even launched it yet. I made sure he GUI of boss is set to Nehrim (it was set to NV) then tried several times to update masterlist and run boss.

Since I have BOSS committ rights I just used Tortoise to update latest Nehrim BOSS masterlist ... or I thought I did. Seems so on this end. I then copy and pasted over that msterlist to BOSS folder (who needs to download when I'm the author). But ... still doesn't work and still gives that error about NV.

What is going on? I searched the readme and found nothing about this error.

Yes as always all my games are installed outside UAC. OS is Win 7.

[edit] I found the error in the readme that then referenced the file permissions section. Problem is this makes no sense ... wrong file it is looking for and both the right and wrong file are outside of UAC areas of control. AND as I indicated above - I have downloaded NV but not ran it yet - I don't even have BOSS installed for it.

For some reason BOSS is searching a data folder other than the one that is in the same directory as it (and on a different hard drive).

I made sure Nerhim.esm is installed and Oblivion.esm is not.

[edit 2] FIXED IT

Set the GUI game to autodetect and it worked right. Thought about editing out above, but I can see how others might run into problem and if setting the game does not fix it then autodetect might.

Well, NV users were reporting that it kept getting detected as Nehrim, so it looks like there's some confusion on BOSS's part there, I'll check it out.

Got a question for ya.

How does BOSS figure out the version numbers of OBSE .dll plugins? I wanted to update mine so that BOSS can pick it out.

Thanks!

I think you need to set the version when you compile - there's options in the project properties for a version number, and you can also have a resource file. This is BOSS's, for example:

1 VERSIONINFOFILEVERSION 1,9,1PRODUCTVERSION 1,9,1FILEFLAGSMASK 0x17L#ifdef _DEBUGFILEFLAGS 0x1L#elseFILEFLAGS 0x0L#endifFILEOS 0x4LFILETYPE 0x1LFILESUBTYPE 0x0LBEGIN	BLOCK "StringFileInfo"	BEGIN		BLOCK "040904b0"		BEGIN			VALUE "FileDescription", "Better Oblivion Sorting Software CLI"			VALUE "FileVersion", "1.9.1"			VALUE "InternalName", "BOSS CLI"			VALUE "LegalCopyright", "Copyright (C) 2009-2012"			VALUE "ProductName", "BOSS CLI"			VALUE "ProductVersion", "1.9.1"		END	END	BLOCK "VarFileInfo"	BEGIN		VALUE "Translation", 0x409, 1200	ENDENDMAINICON ICON "BOSS.ico"

I'm not too hot on this stuff.

» Thu May 03, 2012 6:03 am

Unrecognized Mods from http://tes.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=40825

Reaper's Esmeralda's Desert Manor NoTail Scarf.esp Checksum: BED1D4E and
Reaper's Esmeralda's Desert Manor Quickfix.esp Checksum: 2144E584

from http://tes.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=41553

FundamentEnchantingAddons.esp Version 1.0 Checksum: 82BDB46

This one is recognized but needs cleaning: http://tes.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=6960
eyja.esp Version 1.4 Dirty Checksum: C2EB9EAE
36 ITM, 20 UDR
Clean Checksum: 14FA4455

Thank you.

Added.

Huh, surprised this one isn't listed

http://tes.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=27711
CRC: BA0F1C48 (clean)

Straightforward armor addition.

Added.

» Thu May 03, 2012 9:34 am

I'm not too hot on this stuff.

Hot enough! Got the version info working. Thanks! I have taken another step closer to appearing like I know what I'm doing.

» Wed May 02, 2012 11:46 pm

New mod: http://tes.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=41528

kuerteeMagickaBasedEnchantmentLimits.esp (clean) Checksum: 33C4E35D

Mod Ordering Revision for AFK_Tweaks.esp: http://afkmods.iguanadons.net/index.php?a=topic&t=37

from the ReadMe 1.5: Should load before Tamriel Immersion Experience (TIE)

Thank you.

» Wed May 02, 2012 9:32 pm

This one is recognized by BOSS but not yet noted as "dirty".

[Keias]Dungeon Of Chaos.esp

TES4Edit reports:
ITM = 25
UDR = 0

Dirty CRC is 34D47392

Viva BOSS ! :biggrin:

Also:

http://tes.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=41461

Readme states: If using the NRBR4 compatibility patch, ensure that it loads after road+bridges.esp:

Northern Front.esp
road+bridges.esp
Northern Front - road+bridges - compatibility .esp

» Thu May 03, 2012 4:23 am

Unrecognized mod

SaddleBag.esp
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=oblivionmods.Detail&id=393

Cheers!

» Thu May 03, 2012 3:06 am

New village mod by Arthmoor:
Gottshaw Village.esp
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=41585%5DGottshaw
Version: 1.0
CRC: E519C0CB

Also,

Colored Lower Class Beds Resource.esp
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=41344%5DColored
CRC: 311A95EB

» Thu May 03, 2012 4:53 am

I seriously don't know why I did not start using this earlier...

FYI though, it still doesn't seem to recognise Lynges Thieves' Highway?
I did mention it a couple of times before, as I recall...

Cheers,
Mat

» Wed May 02, 2012 11:55 pm

Why is the thread called BOSS for Oblivion if the acronym already stands for Better Oblivion Sorting Software?
Aaaaaargh. :ahhh:

» Wed May 02, 2012 9:43 pm

Why is the thread called BOSS for Oblivion if the acronym already stands for Better Oblivion Sorting Software?
Aaaaaargh. :ahhh:

Because this thread is for Oblivion support and reports. BOSS supports Oblivion, Nehrim, Skyrim, Fallout 3, and Fallout: New Vegas. It's to lessen confusion about which game the thread is for.

» Thu May 03, 2012 2:57 am

I seriously don't know why I did not start using this earlier...

FYI though, it still doesn't seem to recognise Lynges Thieves' Highway?
I did mention it a couple of times before, as I recall...

Cheers,
Mat :smile:

You might want to note how people are reporting unknown mods in this thread, so that it is in a useful format for wrinklyninja to add quickly. If he has to go look for a mod, we are wasting his time.

PS: If you are using Better Cities, do note that Lynge's Thieves' Highway has been incorporated in that mod.

» Thu May 03, 2012 8:43 am

You might want to note how people are reporting unknown mods in this thread, so that it is in a useful format for wrinklyninja to add quickly. If he has to go look for a mod, we are wasting his time.

PS: If you are using Better Cities, do note that Lynge's Thieves' Highway has been incorporated in that mod.

Thanks for the advice, but I have actually reported it with a link previously.
I wasn't hassling I was just mentioning by the by is all.

I'm not using better cities.

» Thu May 03, 2012 6:46 am

New mod: http://tes.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=41528

kuerteeMagickaBasedEnchantmentLimits.esp (clean) Checksum: 33C4E35D

Mod Ordering Revision for AFK_Tweaks.esp: http://afkmods.iguanadons.net/index.php?a=topic&t=37

from the ReadMe 1.5: Should load before Tamriel Immersion Experience (TIE)

Thank you.

Added and changed.

This one is recognized by BOSS but not yet noted as "dirty".

[Keias]Dungeon Of Chaos.esp

TES4Edit reports:
ITM = 25
UDR = 0

Dirty CRC is 34D47392

Viva BOSS ! :biggrin:

Also:

http://tes.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=41461

Readme states: If using the NRBR4 compatibility patch, ensure that it loads after road+bridges.esp:

Northern Front.esp
road+bridges.esp
Northern Front - road+bridges - compatibility .esp

Added.

Unrecognized mod

SaddleBag.esp
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=oblivionmods.Detail&id=393

Cheers!

Added.

New village mod by Arthmoor:
Gottshaw Village.esp
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=41585%5DGottshaw
Version: 1.0
CRC: E519C0CB

Also,

Colored Lower Class Beds Resource.esp
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=41344%5DColored
CRC: 311A95EB

Added.

I seriously don't know why I did not start using this earlier...

FYI though, it still doesn't seem to recognise Lynges Thieves' Highway?
I did mention it a couple of times before, as I recall...

Cheers,
Mat :smile:

Yes, you did, but it's been added for as long as I can remember. I don't know why it's not being recognised for you, the filename of the plugin you linked me to is "Lynges_Thieves_Highway-10256.esp", so it should match that. Running BOSS with it installed works for me. :shrug:

Why is the thread called BOSS for Oblivion if the acronym already stands for Better Oblivion Sorting Software?
Aaaaaargh. :ahhh:

Because "BOSS for Oblivion" isn't "Better Oblivion Sorting Software for Oblivion", but rather "the Better Oblivion Sorting Software thread for Oblivion". I decided to change it after we got a couple of Skyrim mod reports in the last one, to make things clearer.

» Thu May 03, 2012 10:32 am

Yes, you did, but it's been added for as long as I can remember. I don't know why it's not being recognised for you, the filename of the plugin you linked me to is "Lynges_Thieves_Highway-10256.esp", so it should match that. Running BOSS with it installed works for me. :shrug:

How curious.

Well it's no biggie for me because it seems to be fine where I have it at the moment, next to the other thieves' highway mod.
I will check the esp name come to think of it, maybe I just hadn't noticed it was different or something...

» Thu May 03, 2012 1:45 am

I have a question. I have Skyrim installed and BOSS, but i am going to install Oblivion again as well. So how do i go about getting BOSS to also control the load order of mods for Oblivion without it clashing with Skyrim?

» Thu May 03, 2012 12:11 am

I have a question. I have Skyrim installed and BOSS, but i am going to install Oblivion again as well. So how do i go about getting BOSS to also control the load order of mods for Oblivion without it clashing with Skyrim?

Rerun the installer and select Oblivion. It won't clash as it's a completely different install for each game it works for.

» Thu May 03, 2012 9:27 am

Rerun the installer and select Oblivion. It won't clash as it's a completely different install for each game it works for.

Ah thank you very much deaths_soul.

» Wed May 02, 2012 7:59 pm

New mod, looks very promising:

TxG_NationalMuseum_.esp Checksum: 8B9545E6 http://tes.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=41583

Large museum located in Arborwatch, Chorrol.

» Wed May 02, 2012 9:04 pm

Unrecognized mod:

UVIICSInGame.esp (Clean Checksum: 722C1E81)

Part of Unnecessary Violence II - Taking Action http://tes.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=40310]
Description: In game crib sheet of UVII: TA controls.

-Dubious-

» Thu May 03, 2012 12:21 am

Another Sensual Walks plugin

ADD: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=28223
AFTER: Gottshaw Village.esp
APPEND: % {{BASH:Actors.Anims, NoMerge}}

» Thu May 03, 2012 12:19 am

Maybe I'm being too OCD, but it bothers me that that Sneaking Detection Recalibrated.esp doesn't have the SDR prefix that the other .esp files have. Same thing applies to the .dll OBSE plugin which is currently the lengthy "SneakingDetectionRecalibrated.dll". So I was thinking about renaming the files to something like:
SDR core.esp
SDR perks and patches (Oblivion).esp
SDR perks and patches (Nehrim).esp
SDR obse.dll

Then, if there were any other additions, they would follow the same pattern.

The next version has a lot of changes, so many that uninstalling the previous version and obse plug-in will be required. So if I'm going to make the change, now would be the time.

Any thoughts?

» Thu May 03, 2012 2:45 am

Unrecognized mods:

Components of "The_Art_of_Speedy_Looting_v1_03-15681" [http://tes.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=15681]
"allows you to automatically sort the contents of various containers into your inventory"

Speedy Looting - Harvest [Containers] - Flat-Top Barrels Add-on.esp Version 0.99 (Clean Checksum: 8D6956)
Speedy Looting - Harvest [Containers] - Havok Crates Add-on.esp Version 0.99 (Clean Checksum: 5355A35A)

Components of "Detect_life_effect_and_Night-eye_shader_0p54-36407" [http://tes.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=36407]
"Detect Life" and "Night Eye" shaders.

kuerteeDetectLifeEffect.esp (Clean Checksum: 8FFD42AB)
kuerteeNightEyeShader.esp (Clean Checksum: B3C5EA4B)

-Dubious-

» Thu May 03, 2012 2:24 am

Any thoughts?

As an end-user, a consistent naming pattern appeals because it makes locating all the related files MUCH easier. Given what you say regarding the next release, the timing does indeed appear "right". (Not OCD: Logical.)

-Dubious-

» Thu May 03, 2012 12:25 am

OBGE v3.1 and Liquid Water v2.1 are still in release candidate phase. Since BOSS doesn't work for them, I was wondering if there are any tips to make it work?

Despite my best guess at load ordering, my shaders are just causing strobe effects and my water is just showing up all black.

» Thu May 03, 2012 6:27 am

Unrecognized mod:

LexMiscClothesII http://tes.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=37202

Somewhat practical female clothing for various body mods. Edits Best Goods and Guarantees in Leyawiin so that Elsynia sells the new items. CRC: 4E787306. No cleaning required.

All hail the BOSS!