BOSS Master List Manager
Download from http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=29790.

Background

Boss is a fantastic tool for automatically defining your mod Load Order. However, there will always be some mods that have not yet been defined in BOSS's Master List and some that will never be defined because they are your own personal mods. In addition, the Master List is updated very frequently on the web but is updated much less frequently on Nexus.

What does the BOSS Master List Manager do?

The Boss Master List Manager (BOMM) is NOT a mod! It is a Microsoft Word document macro that..

• Automates the process of updating your local Master List from the frequently updated web list
  
• Allows you to define where you want your undefined ESPs/ESMs to be placed in the Load Order and applies these as changes to the Master List so that you will not get any undefined ESPs/ESMs
  
• Tells you when one of your undefined ESPs/ESMs has been added to the Master List and gives you the option of automatically removing it from your Definitions.
  
• Allows you to override BOSS's Load Order for selected ESPs, ESMs or BOSS Groups
  
• Automatically adds entries for Unknown mods listed in your BOSS log file
  
• Allows you to define your own special code lines (eg Bashed Patched tag suggestions)

BOMM provides full support for BOSS-F (Fallout 3) users.

Required

Microsoft Word 2010, 2007 or 2003
- It may work on earlier versions, but I am unable to test this

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=20516
- BOMM is of no use unless you are using BOSS to help with your Load Order

Credits and Thanks

My thanks to the BOSS project team for creating and maintaining this invaluable tool...

Google Code Administrators:

• Arthmoor
  
• Random007
  
• WrinklyNinja

Developers:

• Arthmoor
  
• PacificMorrowind
  
• Random007
  
• Vacuity
  
• WrinklyNinja
  
• ZiggyX

My thanks to people who took the time to try out this utility and suggest ways to fix and improve it...

BOMM Contributors

• Psymon
  
• ishmaeltheforsaken

Licensing and Legal

• You may NOT use this content for commercial purposes.
  
• You may not upload the BOSS Master List Manager without the express permission of Surazal.
  
• You may change and publish something based on the BOSS Master List Manager providing it does not contravene #1. Giving me credit would be nice.

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http://www.tesnexus.com/modules/members/index.php?id=339693

Finally a reason to install MS Word!

I saw that you mentioned it a few times that you made this for you. It's really nice that you release it!

Thanks.

Would have done it sooner, but it took me a while before I came up with a way to make using it easy enough to release it for general use - hope I have achieved this

This is an amazingly useful tool... thank you!

The first is cool, but you realize that you already can edit your own masterlist.txt file manually, right?

This sounds very useful, though I have yet to try it. (On the wrong PC at the moment, no Word here.)


Bodevanlot -- of course he realizes that, that's how this tool works (editing the local masterlist.txt file). The problem is that once you've made changes to your personal masterlist file, it becomes annoying to have to re-do those changes every time you want to update your list to match the new changes in the web version.

I've always just maintained my own copy of the masterlist, and used a diff/merge program to incorporate new changes every once in a while from the web version, but that gets to be quite a pain.

One thing, though -- you mentioned that you can choose where you want undefined plugins to be placed in the masterlist, which is undoubtedly useful. Is there any chance you could also support moving a plugin that is recognized to a custom location, and maintaining that move even when updating the masterlist?

That's not something that's often needed, but there are cases when it's useful. I've never used Word macros and I have no idea how hard this would be to implement; obviously it's not worth it if it would be difficult.

As an example, every time I update my masterlist.txt, I need to make sure to keep "Choices and Consequences - SM Plugin Refurbish - Orrery.esp" in a custom place. This is because that plugin needs to fit into one of two places in the load order, depending on whether or not you're using the merged version of SM Plugin Refurbish, and BOSS doesn't support conditional placement like that. So the full BOSS entry for that plugin is:

Choices and Consequences - SM Plugin Refurbish - Orrery.esp? Make sure you have the latest version.? if using the merged SM Plugin Refurbish, move to load after that.

Since I am using the merged version, I have edited my masterlist.txt to move that whole entry away from its default location and to a new place after the merged SM Plugin esp. It's not a big deal to just make sure to keep that custom ordering when I update my masterlist.txt, but if your tool was able to automatically handle custom placements like that for me, that would be really awesome.

OK I've been wrestling with this for over an hour - I give.

1st question - even after making it a safe place in word UAC doesn't seem to like - I'm wondering it giving the document admin priviledges is ok (not sure since not an exe).

2nd question - is asks if I mean to use version 617, which is the latest version. Continue with update? - version 617 of what?
The few mods that do seem to be recognized it gives a message of Mod XXX.esp has been added to your master list - remove this entry from your Load Order Definitions. What does this mean?
... so in this case let us say that the added file is 'Bashed Patch - John.esp' (I run 3 profiles and each with their own unique bashed patch - and name each bashed patch after the name of character).

3rd question - an error is more obscure. It states ' Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot beta Place After Bashed Patch.espLoadAfter ESP is not in the master list - Correct your load order definitions.'
... in this case I was trying to load the MMM module after 'Bashed Patch - John.esp' which was supposedly added above. But then in trying to load it after plain ole 'Bashed patch, 0.esp' I get the same error.

So it is not recognizing Bashed patch, 0.esp as being in the masterlist? Or what?
... in fact is it reading anything after the words 'Bashed Patch' - maybe that is the issue.

Just like with the file tree thing - I feel very close to getting this to work.
And just like with the file tree - I believe more explicit instructions are required.

I still haven't been able to give this a try yet, so I can't answer your other questions, but I can tell you that 617 is the current revision number of the web version of http://better-oblivion-sorting-software.googlecode.com/svn/masterlist.txt (the revision history is visible at http://code.google.com/p/better-oblivion-sorting-software/updates/list). So it's asking you whether to continue updating your masterlist.txt to the most current revision.

Well I already copy pasted the latest - so I think it was asking if I want to alter the latest.

Maybe it would tell me if it were not the latest.

Ishmaeltheforsaken
Thanks for the kind words

Bodevanlot
I think CardTrick answered this for me - thanks CardTrick

CardTrick
I think the easiest way that this could be done is to include a section where you define ESPs that should be deleted from the masterlist. You would then define the ESP in the normal way within the "Undefined ESPs Load Order Definitions". Would this approach satisfy your requirements?

A side effect would be that any comments, bash tags, etc for the ESP you delete would be lost - any thoughts?

Psymon
Question 1
Have you copied the BOSS Master List Manager.docm to the folder you defined as a trusted location? If you have, is the box next to "Disable all trusted locations.." *Unchecked*? UAC (in the Windows sense) is, as far as I know, meaningless for Word macros - it more to do with programs that try and do installs or change system settings.

Question 2
If you are already using the latest version, it asks if you want to continue or not. So if you have made changes to your "Undefined ESPs Load Order Definitions", you would answer Yes to apply these changes. If you have made no changes, then you would answer No, because there would be nothing to change in your master list.

Also, if you want to make changes to your "Undefined ESPs Load Order Definitions", this gets you to the configuration document without having to wait for the changes to be applied.

Question 2a
If you see "Mod XXX.esp has been added to your master list - remove this entry from your Load Order Definitions", it means that an ESP you have in your "Undefined ESPs Load Order Definitions" is now defined in the standard masterlist (ie has been added by the BOSS team). So no action is taken and the message is letting you know that can remove the entry from your load order definitions table, because it is no longer required.

Question 3
This message is displayed if BMLM does not find the ESP you specified in the "Load After" column. I just ran a test on the "Bashed Patch, 0.esp" to try and reproduce your problem, but it worked as it should. I can only think that there might a something not quite correct in your esp name specification - perhaps a hidden character has been inadvertently inserted.

Try using Windows Explorer to copy and paste the name (Rename, Ctrl-A, Ctrl-C, Esc and then Ctrl-V to paste into your list)

Also, is "Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot beta Place After Bashed Patch.esp" the name of the ESP?

From the example of what you wanted to do, you should have "Bashed Patch - John.esp" in the left column and "Bashed patch, 0.esp" in the right column to achieve what you wanted. Just tried this and it works fine.

More Explicit Instructions
I would be happy to provide this, just not quite sure what I should add - but am very open to suggestions.

Too late for me to dive back into this tonight but because of the MMM error (yes that is the name) the process crashes and the merger does not work, so I don't know what sticks.

So is there a danger in applying the changes more than once. I'd assume you would not design it that way but your wording above seems to suggest it.

I just pasted the name of the mod into my list and specified that it load after the standard Bash Patch and it works for me. Check that you have not included any additional characters in your table (eg pressing the Space key after ESP) - I suspect that it is something like that.

You can run BMLM many times - it always erases the contenst of your local copy of the master list, gets the latest list and then applies your changes

I have an unregged version of Word 2007, not sure if I can use it anymore since it's long past the trial date.

Any plans to have it ported to OpenOffice.org formats? (Hmm not sure if it has a specific macro save file though... should probably check that.)

No plans for OpenOffice.org formats - just don't use it.

It will probably work on earlier versions of Micosoft Word - if that is of any use.

Just posted a new version - details are on my first post.

CardTrick
I have implemented the solution I proposed that allows you to change the load order of BOSS defined ESPs/ESM - basically, you specify that they should be deleted and then include them in them Undefined table. Hope this is what you were after.

Awesome! I'll give it a try.

looks good going to check itout eventually

Still can't get it to work right.

So here is a section of my personal mods from the .docm:

Here is how it comes out in the BOSS readout and load order:
... since I can't import tables ...
Undefined: ------- Load After:
Bashed Patch - John.esp ------------- Bashed Patch, 0.esp
Bashed Patch - Beatrice.esp---------- Bashed Patch - John.esp
Duke Patrick SCA Combat AI.esp------- Bashed Patch - Beatrice.esp
Duke Patricks - Combat Archery.esp --- Duke Patrick SCA Combat AI.esp

Here is the bottom section of what this results in:
All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp

Bashed Patch - John.esp

Bashed Patch - Beatrice.esp

Duke Patrick SCA Combat AI.esp

Duke Patricks - Combat Archery.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Filter,C.Climate}} <-- even the masterlist from online does not have that suggestions and further - it just cannot be right.
. Note: Do not activate. Must be merged into Bashed Patch using Import Cells.

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Duke Patricks - SCA Melee Combat with NO RECOIL.esp

OOO-Magic_Script_Effect_Fix.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Sound}}

Duke Patricks - BASIC Script Effect Silencer BETA.esp
. Note: Old. Upgrade to latest version.

So as you can see it then placed the bashed patch,0 after the other bashed patches when I defined the order as before those bashed patches.

Then why also would the OOO Magic_Script_Effect_fix.esp be loading after bash and what is with the totally erroneous tags for Duke's brand new archery mod - that as far as I can tell is not even on the masterlist yet, much less needing those tags.

Sorry about the colors - don't know how to undo them - best viewed in Hi-f.
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[edit 1]
Oh wait I see the issue with the bash tag suggestion - that is actually the bash tag suggestion for the AN filter that got moved down because this gizmo injected the other mods inbetween.

Also I never could get the MMM loot plugin to work.

So hmm - wait maybe I need a fresh masterlist ... back to work ...

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[edit 2]
Oh I get it now - if you already altered the list once it is best to start over with a fresh list.

Here is the new order:
All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Filter,C.Climate}}
. Note: Do not activate. Must be merged into Bashed Patch using Import Cells.

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Bashed Patch - John.esp

Bashed Patch - Beatrice.esp

Duke Patrick SCA Combat AI.esp

Duke Patricks - Combat Archery.esp

Realistic Movement.esp

Duke Patricks - SCA Melee Combat with NO RECOIL.esp

OOO-Magic_Script_Effect_Fix.esp <--- Still don't know why this is placed after bashed patch,0?
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Sound}}

Duke Patricks - BASIC Script Effect Silencer BETA.esp
. Note: Old. Upgrade to latest version.

Now if I can get the nerve to actually use this on my data folder. Need to check the whole readout closely.

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[edit 3]
Ok I see several instances where if this thing injects a line (mod) after a mod that has bashed patch suggestions then those suggestions get shifted down to below the mods injected.

for example I injected these mods I made after Aylied Loot EXtended:
Game Tweaks Early.esp, Home Care Mods Merged.esp, CNRP 4 OOO.esp, ImperREAL IC + Additions.esp and as you can see the last one inherited the tags from ALEX:
Ayleid Loot EXtension.esp

Game Tweaks Early.esp

Home Care Mods Merged.esp

CNRP 4 OOO.esp

ImperREAL IC + Additions.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Invent}}

Similarly throughout the entire load order read out.

Psymon
Each time you run the Macro, it always clears your current entries, downloads the latest version and then applies your changes - so not quite sure what you mean when you say "if you already altered the list once it is best to start over with a fresh list".

You are quite right about the comments and special lines that follow the ESP you are loading after - I will do something to correct this as it can get confusing.

Got to admit I lost track of where you got to with all the edits Is it (apart from the tag line issue), working correctly for you? I think from your last edit that it is.
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Here is what I plan to change before releasing what I hope will be the final version...

• Ensure that esp/esm lines are inserted after the symbol codes associated with the Load After esp/esm line (Psymon's observation)
  
• The Override esp/esm list will delete the "\" line if it follows the specified esp/esm - will make a change to stop this happening
  
• If you have updated your configuration and you run the macro, the message about latest version will not be displayed (unless you have saved the document before running the macro)
  
• In addition to suppressing the message, you will be asked if you want to save the document containing your configuration after the master list has been updated
  
• If a BOSS log file exists, BMLM will use it to add any undefined esp/esm to your Undefined list. The load after entries will be blank, so the entries will be ignored until you specify the Load After esp/esm. It will not add any entries that are already defined.

I welcome any comments on the above and will consider additional suggestions.

Well truthfully I get a bit lost about it myself. Sorry didn't want to edit out my work if you had already read it.

This is compounded by the fact that the one real bug is that it will truncate bash tag suggestions from below the mod you are adding your mods to follow down to below the mods you add. This makes the list confusing to read and completely erroneous. As described in the last edit.

That is the main issue ... hang on I will post my BOSS read out with color edits to hopeful illustrate - give me a few ...

Good point.

See my number 1 action - have already got a test version that now adds your undefined mod *after* all the bash commands, etc. This will remove your biggest issue - which I completely agree with.

I have also corrected a problem caused by the line wrapping on the lines beginning with special symbols.

So far I have completed the first three of the chnages I outlined in my earlier post.

OK here is the BOSS read out I've coded it like this.

A mod that had the Bash tag suggestions and notes cut off by an interjected mod.
An interjected mod.
<--- tags cut off and truncated to below added mods

----------------------------------------------------------- Better Oblivion Sorting Software       Load Order Utility    © Random007 & the BOSS development team, 2009            Some rights reserved.                                      CC Attribution-Noncommercial-No Derivative Works 3.0       [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/1074014-boss-master-list-manager/http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/"]http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/[/url]        v1.4 (31 August 09)                                       -----------------------------------------------------------Master .ESM date: Fri Dec 31 21:01:00 1999FCOM detected.------------------------------------Recognised and re-ordered mod files:------------------------------------Oblivion.esm  . Note:  Revision 621  . Note:  Masterlist Information: $Revision$, $Date$, $LastChangedBy$All Natural Base.esmFrancesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esmFrancesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esmCobl Main.esm  . Note:  Do not use Tamrielic Ingredients and COBL at the same time.TamRes.esmOscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  . Bashed Patch tag suggestion:  {{BASH:Invent,Stats,Relations}}Mart's Monster Mod.esm  . Bashed Patch tag suggestion:  {{BASH:Invent,Relations}}Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esmCyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esmTamrielTravellers.esmFCOM_Convergence.esmArmamentarium.esmArtifacts.esmProgress.esmMALO - MAIN.esmUnofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  . Note:  Recommend installing UOP hotfix for additional fixes: [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/1074014-boss-master-list-manager/http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=27710"]http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=27710[/url]  . Bashed Patch tag suggestion:  {{BASH:C.Climate,C.Light,C.Owner,Delev,Invent,Names,Relev,Stats,Relations}} and remove the C.Water tag.DLCShiveringIsles.espUnofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  . Note:  Remember to use the 'MOBS' version when using Francesco's and FCOM.  . Note:  Newest MOBS and non-MOBS versions have the same name.  . Bashed Patch tag suggestion:  {{BASH:C.Light,C.Owner,Invent,Names,Relations,Stats,Delev}}Shivering OOO.espTamRes.esp  . Note:  Dummy file to load the TamRes BSA.Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.espFrancesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.espFrancesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.espFrancesco's Optional Leveled Quests-SI only.espFrancesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp  . Note:  Requires Shivering Isles expansion.Francesco's Dark Seducer Weapons Patch.esp  . Bashed Patch tag suggestion:  {{BASH:Delev, Relev}}FCOM_Francescos.esp  . Note:  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items 4.5b required.FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  . Note:  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items 4.5b required.  . Note:  Francesco's supplementary addon package required.FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  . Note:  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items 4.5b required.Fran Armor Add-on.esp  . Bashed Patch tag suggestion:  {{BASH:Invent}}  . Note:  Requires FCOM_UnofficialFranArmorAddon.esp  . Note:  Requires the meshes from 'Bonemold Helmet' and 'Cryos Ordinator Indoril Armor' mods, but not the ESPs.  . Note:  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items 4.5b required.Fran_Lv30Item_Maltz.esp  . Note:  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items 4.5b required.LoadingScreens.esp_Environments Mods Merged1.esp  . Bashed Patch tag suggestion:  {{BASH:Graphics,NoMerge}}All Natural - Real Lights.esp  . Note:  Do not use with original Real Lights mod.All Natural.esp  . Note:  Required for All Natural.  . Bashed Patch tag suggestion:  {{BASH:C.Climate}}All Natural - SI.esp  . Note:  Required for All Natural SI support.  . Bashed Patch tag suggestion:  {{BASH:C.Climate}}All Natural - EW + NW + AWS.esp  . Note:  Only use one All Natural weather plugin.Weather Debug Ring.espEnhanced Water v2.0 HD.espEnhanced Water v2.0 HD - SI Addon.espSymphony of Violence.esp  . Note:  May cause CTDs when used with Deadly Reflex. Unverified.MIS.espAtmospheric Oblivion.espPowerAttack Voicemod - The Shivering Isles.espDiverse Voices.espWindowLightingSystem.esp[color="#9932cc"]Ayleid Loot EXtension.esp[/color][color="#ff8c00"]Game Tweaks Early.espHome Care Mods Merged.espCNRP 4 OOO.espImperREAL IC + Additions.esp[/color]  [color="#9932cc"]. Bashed Patch tag suggestion:  {{BASH:Invent}}[/color]<--- tags cut off and truncated to below added modskuerteeAutoSaveAndTime.esp  . Note:  Incompatible with Streamline's Streamsave and Cobl's clock.AFK_PrayerIdles.espBook Jackets Oblivion.esp  . Bashed Patch tag suggestion:  {{BASH:Graphics}} and deactivate.Cobl Bookjackets.esp  . Bashed Patch tag suggestion:  {{BASH:Graphics}}kuerteeAutoFirstThirdPersonView.espDID3_DoubleTrouble.espFrbitPotionReplacer.esp  . Bashed Patch tag suggestion:  {{BASH:Graphics,Names}}Item interchange - Extraction.esp  . Note:  Requires Bashed Patch.QZ Easy Menus.espUpdate My Statue.espVows and Covenants.esp  . Note:  Conflicts with Deadly Reflex. Minor Problems.Enhanced Economy.esp  . Note:  Replaces Living Economy pluginOblivion Alive.esp  . Note:  May be incompatible with BC - untested.Choices and Consequences.esp  . Note:  Make sure you have the latest version.Map Marker Overhaul.espMap Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp[color="#9932cc"]sr_super_hotkeys.esp[/color][color="#ff8c00"]Armor and Weapon Quests.esp[/color]  [color="#9932cc"]. Note:  Don't use hotkeys to change Warcry-style 'set' equipment. Game bug.[/color]<--- tags cut off and truncated to below added modsDLCHorseArmor.espDLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.espMart's Monster Mod - DLCHorseArmor+Slofs .espDLCMehrunesRazor.espDLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.espYX33A Razor Edit.espDLCSpellTomes.esp  . Bashed Patch tag suggestion:  {{BASH:Relev}}DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  . Note:  Not compatible with 'CDM-CGO Compatibility plugins'.Book Jackets DLC.esp  . Bashed Patch tag suggestion:  {{BASH:Graphics,NoMerge}} and deactivate.GrimbotsSpellTomes.esp  . Bashed Patch tag suggestion:  {{BASH:Graphics}} and deactivate.ArtifactsFemaleArmor.espClassyClothingCompendium.espCSR - Fine Iron.esp  . Bashed Patch tag suggestion:  {{BASH:Graphics}}CSR - Golden Saint.esp  . Bashed Patch tag suggestion:  {{BASH:Graphics}}Armamentium female.esp  . Bashed Patch tag suggestion:  {{BASH:Graphics,NoMerge}} and deactivatekuerteeHorseCommands.espMALO - Guild Tweaks.espKDCircletsOOOOptimized - NPC Equip.esp  . Note:  Has bugs. Use Loot version or a patch or 'FCOM_KDCircletsOOOOptimizedNPCEquip.esp' if using FCOM.  . Note:  Avoid using Potion Belt and KD Circlets at the same time. Character can wear belt or circlet, not both.FCOM_KDCircletsOOOOptimizedNPCEquip.esp  . Note:  Requires 'KDCircletsOOOOptimized - NPC Equip'.  . Note:  Avoid using Potion Belt and KD Circlets at the same time. Character can wear belt or circlet, not both.MMM_Runeskull_Rebalance_BETA2.espSlof's Oblivion Robe Trader.esp  . Note:  Requires 'FCOM_SlofsRobeTrader.esp'.Cobl Glue.esp  . Note:  >? Make sure to install the FCOM patch 'FCOM_Cobl.esp'.Cobl Si.esp  . Note:  Requires Shivering Isles expansion.OOO 1.32-Cobl.espFCOM_Cobl.esp  . Note:  Requires 'Cobl Glue.esp' and 'OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp'.  . Note:  Do not use COBL and Tamerielic Ingredients at the same time.Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp  . Note:  Requires 'FCOM_BobsArmory.esp'.FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  . Note:  Requires 'Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp'.Loth's Blunt Weapons for NPCs.esp  . Note:  Requires 'FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp'.FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp  . Note:  Requires 'Loths Blunt Weapons for NPCs.esp'.Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  . Note:  Requires either 'FCOM_WarCry.esp' or 'FCOM_WarCryNoSpawn.esp'.FCOM_WarCry.esp  . Note:  Use either 'FCOM_WarCry.esp' or 'FCOM_WarCryNoSpawn.esp', not both.Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  . Bashed Patch tag suggestion:  {{BASH:Delev,Invent,Names,Relations,Relev,Stats}}OOO-Container_Trap_Instant_Effects.espFine Weapons for OOO.espChoices and Consequences - OOO.esp  . Note:  Make sure you have the latest version.ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp  . Note:  Can be used with either 'ArmamentariumLL.esp' or 'ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp'.ArmamentariumArtifacts.espMart's Monster Mod - Hemingweys NPC and Guard Capes.esp  . Bashed Patch tag suggestion:  {{BASH:Invent}}OBSE-Storms & Sound SI.esp  . Note:  Use only one Storms and Sound mod file.  . Note:  This one is compatible with all weather mods.MALO - Clutter Replacer.espMALO - Vendor Additions.espMALO - Loot Tweaks.espMALO - Loot Tweaks DCRP.espMart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp  . Note:  Can increase the chances of a CTD in a heavily modded game.FCOM_Convergence.espFCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.espFCOM_RealSwords.espFCOM_SpawnRatesStronger.esp  . Note:  Use only one: Reduced, SlightlyReduced or Stronger.  . Note:  'Stronger' is the same as 'Reduced' but spawns will be more powerful.Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.espFCOM_LessRats.espFCOM_LessReaversInGates.esp  . Note:  Use either 'NoReaversInGates' or 'LessReaversInGates' but not both, for obvious reason.Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.espMart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.espMart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.espMart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.espMart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.espMart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  . Bashed Patch tag suggestion:  {{BASH:Scripts}}Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.espMart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.espMALO - Clutter Replacer MMM - HUNT.espMart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  . Note: Not compatible with Slof's Horses or Slof's Extra Horses.TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp  . Note:  Requires 'FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp'.TamrielTravellersItemsNPC.esp  . Bashed Patch tag suggestion:  {{BASH:Filter,Delev,Relev}} and deactivate.ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp  . Note:  Use of 'TamrielTravellersItemsNPC.esp', 'TamrielTravellersItemsUnscaled.esp', or 'TamrielTravellersItemsVendors.esp' will remove SI items for sale.  . Note:  Requires Shivering Isles expansion.ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions4MMM.espTamrielTravellersHorseTextures.esp  . Bashed Patch tag suggestion:  {{BASH:NoMerge,Graphics}} and deactivate.FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp  . Note:  Requires 'TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp'FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.espFCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp  . Note:  Requires 'Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp'.FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp  . Note:  Requires Shivering Isles expansion.FCOM_FriendlierFactions.espFCOM_MoreRandomSpawns.espFCOM_MoreRandomItems.espDaggerfall NPCs.espDaggerfall NPCs - MMM Patch.espMart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  . Bashed Patch tag suggestion:  {{BASH:Relev,Delev}}ArmamentariumLL4OOO.espArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.espPersuasionOverhaul_OOO.espPersuasionOverhaul_MMM.espAtmospheric Oblivion - MMM Patch.espAtmospheric Oblivion - OOO Patch.espFransfemale.espRustyItems for OOO.esp  . Bashed Patch tag suggestion:  {{BASH:Graphics,NoMerge}}SSEE-OOO.espEVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4FCOM.esp  . Note:  For FCOM only, do not use with OOO/MMM or Eve_Stockequipmentreplacer.esp.Enhanced Quest Roleplaying.esp  . Bashed Patch tag suggestion:  {{BASH:Factions}}Enhanced Quest Roleplaying - OOO.espEnhanced Quest Roleplaying - FCOM.espAProvostOfTheNineDivines_1.espKvatchAftermath.espIvellon.esp  . Note:  Border regions must be turned off after this mod for OOO compatibility. Change bBorderRegionsEnabled to 0 in Oblivion.ini.Artifacts.espArtifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.espAshTentMod.espBHC_Expanded.espDemonhunter.espDungeons Merged.espSI Dungeons Merged.espDuke Patricks - HammerBlade.espTheForbiddenSecret.espGaelendryl.espGB_Oblivion Tournament.espGift of Kynareth_delayer.espHauntedHouse.espShezrie's Villages.espJason1_Pirate Ship.espJolardHome.espkingdomofAlmar.esp  . Note:  If using OOO, needs the OOO compatibility patch 'kingdomofAlamar_OOO.esp' ...  . Note:  ...found here: 'http://devnull.sweetdanger.net/mods/KingdomofAlmar_OOO.zip'Kragenir's Death Quest.espKDQ - Rural Line Additions.espOldCrowInn.espRegion Revive - Lake Rumare.esp  . Note:  Incompatible with most Weye-related mods.  . Note:  If used with 'xulImperialIsle.esp', requires 'RegionReviveLakeRumare-ImperialIsle patch.esp'.Region Revive - Lake Rumare - OOO LockBash.espThe Ayleid Steps.espAll Natural - Real Lights - The Ayleid Steps Patch.espTheElderCouncil.espTheElderCouncil_TempleOfTheOne.espTheForgottenShields.espVHBloodlines 1.2.espWeaponsOfTheNine.espDLCFrostcrag.esp  . Bashed Patch tag suggestion:  {{BASH:C.Owner}}Knights.espKnights - Book Jackets.esp  . Bashed Patch tag suggestion:  {{BASH:Graphics, NoMerge}} and deactivate[color="#9932cc"]Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp[/color][color="#ff8c00"]SM Plugin Refurbish Minus BH-Orrery-Vile-Thieves.esp[/color]  [color="#9932cc"]. Bashed Patch tag suggestion:  {{BASH:C.Light,Invent,Names,Relev,Stats}}[/color]<--- tags cut off and truncated to below added modsEVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp  . Bashed Patch tag suggestion:  {{BASH:Graphics}}KotN Wayshrine Fix.espConsequences.espConsequences_Knights.espTOTF.espTOTF Delayer.espRTT.esp  . Note:  Make sure to install the FCOM patch "FCOM_Ruin.esp".RTT-Weye Relocation Patch.espThe Lost Spires.espAFK_Weye.espRumare-AFK_Weye Patch.espGuardsofCyrodiilRedux.esp  . Note:  If using with Region Revive Lake Rumare, use 'GuardsofaCyrodiilRedux - RRLRpatch.esp' as well.GuardsofCyrodiilRedux - RRLRpatch.espMighty Umbra.espBlood&Mud.esp  . Bashed Patch tag suggestion:  {{BASH:Hair, NpcFaces}}  . Note:  FCOM requires 'FCOM_WelkyndSwordBlood&Mud.esp' or 'FCOM_Blood&Mud.esp'.Blood&Mud - EE Patch.espLost Paladins of the Divines.espOrigin of the Mages Guild.esp  . Note:  FCOM requires 'FCOM_OMG.esp' or 'FCOM_OMG' and 'FCOM_OMGSRT.esp'.TheNecromancer.esp  . Note:  Has some landscape issues with OOO.HoarfrostCastle.esp  . Bashed Patch tag suggestion:  {{BASH:Hair}}Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.espFCOM_mightyumbra.esp  . Note:  Requires 'Mighty Umbra.esp'.FCOM_Blood&Mud.esp  . Note:  Requires 'Blood&Mud.esp'.FCOM_Knights.esp  . Bashed Patch tag suggestion:  {{BASH:Delev,Relev}}  . Note:  Requires DLC 'Knights.esp'.FCOM_slofsrobetrader.esp  . Note:  Requires 'Slof's Oblivion Robe Trader.esp'.FCOM_OMG.esp  . Note:  Requires 'Origin of the Mages Guild.esp'.  . Note:  If using both Origin of the Mage's Guild and Slof's Oblivion Robe trader, use 'FCOM_OMGSRT.esp' as well.FCOM_OMGSRT.esp  . Note:  Requires both 'Origin of the Mages Guild.esp' and 'Slof's Oblivion Robe Trader.esp'.Origin of the Mages Guild OOO Patch.espEnhanced Daedric Invasion.esp  . Note:  Requires 'FCOM_EnhancedDaedricInvasion.esp'.FCOM_EnhancedDaedricInvasion.espEDI - Less Monotonous DOT.esp[color="#9932cc"]ElsweyrAnequina.esp[/color][color="#ff8c00"]Tamriel Houses Merged.espSI Homes Merged.espVillages and Forts Merged.esp[/color]  [color="#9932cc"]. Note:  Border region restrictions must be turned off: use Wrye Bash tweak, hand edit .ini file or use no-border mod (not recommended).[/color]<--- tags cut off and truncated to below added modsValenwood.esproad+bridges.espWest Roads.espFeldscar.espVergayun.espFaregyl.esp  . Bashed Patch tag suggestion:  {{BASH:Relations}}Faregyl+Anequina Patch.espxuldarkforest.espLostSpires-DarkForest patch.espxulStendarrValley.espxulTheHeath.espXulEntiusGorge.espKvatchAftermath-EntiusGorge compatibility patch.espTheNecromancer-EntiusGorge patch.espxulFallenLeafEverglade.espLostSpires-Everglade patch.espTheElderCouncil-FallenleafEverglade patch.espAnequina-Fallenleaf-Patch.espxulColovianHighlands_EV.espxulChorrolHinterland.espxulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  . Note:  Make sure version is 1.6.3 or later.KragenirsDeathQuest-LostCoast patch.espxulbravilbarrowfields.espxulLushWoodlands.espHoarfrostCastle-LushWoodlands patch.espxulAncientYews.espxulAncientRedwoods.espxulCloudtopMountains.espKragenirsDeathQuest-CloudtopMountains patch.espRavenview-Cloudtop-Patch.espxulArriusCreek.espxulPatch_AY_AC.espxulRollingHills_EV.espKragenirsDeathQuest-RollingHills patch.espxulPantherRiver.espxulRiverEthe.espxulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  . Note:  Border region restrictions must be turned off: use Wrye Bash tweak, hand edit .ini file or use no-border mod (not recommended).Gaelendryll-BrenaRiver patch.espNakedNord.espxulImperialIsle.espxulBlackwoodForest.espxulCheydinhalFalls.espBlood&Mud-CheydinhalFalls patch.espGiftOfKynareth-CheydinhalFalls patch.espTearsOfTheFiend-CheydinhalFalls patch.espDungeonsOfIvellon-CheydinhalFalls patch.espVillages-CheydinhalFalls patch.espxulAspenWood.espLakewood+AspenWood Patch.espNRB4+UL-II Patch.espSylix.espbartholm.espFort Akatosh Redux.esp  . Bashed Patch tag suggestion:  {{BASH:Relations}}FortAkatoshRedux-NewRoads&Bridges patch.espCyrodiil Legion Addon.espBarrowFields-Blood&Mud-Patch.esp  . Note:  Do not use this with Better Cities or Open Better Cities.RegionReviveLakeRumare-ImperialIsle patch.espNRB4+RR Patch.espFCOM_UnofficialFranArmorAddon.esp  . Note:  Requires 'Fran Armor Add-on.esp' from 'Unofficial Francesco's Armor'.NPC new clothes V2.6.espFCOM_NewNPCClothes.esp  . Note:  requires 'New NPC Clothes 2.6'.Harvest [Flora].espHarvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.espDropLitTorchOBSE.espkuerteeInventoryIsABackpack.espMIEO.espOblivifall - Ambiant Dungeon SFX.espOblivifall - Let's Talk!.espOblivifall - Something's Not Right.espPersuasionOverhaul.espReneerNPCSneakMod.espEnhanced Vegetation [125%].esp  . Note:  Use only one Enhanced Vegetation plugin.SigilStonesUnlevelled - SSEE-OOO.espShippingInCyrodiil_Normal_Lights_V1-1 - With Drawbridges.espFeudal Empire 300.esp  . Bashed Patch tag suggestion:  {{BASH:Invent,Graphics}}  . Note:  Use instead of 300_White Stallion 4.espQuest Award Leveller.espQuest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.espQuest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.espGame Tweaks Late.espDialogue Mods Merged+.espDuke Patricks Sickness+Health Alarm.espSkip Tutorial.espStartChoices.espRealisticFatigue.espkuerteeEatAndSleep.esp[color="#9932cc"]Duke Patricks - Nosferatu Class Vampires.esp[/color][color="#ff8c00"]Combat Tweaks Merged.espMagic Tweaks.esp[/color]  [color="#9932cc"]. Bashed Patch tag suggestion:  {{BASH:Sound}}[/color]<--- tags cut off and truncated to below added modsEnchantmentMastery.espPat's SpellpackMod Classic.espPJs Spell Compendium - Spell Requirements.esp  . Note:  Use only one 'PJs Spells - Cheap Spells.esp' or 'PJs Spell Compendium - No Requirements.esp' or 'PJs Spell Compendium - Spell Requirements.esp'kuerteeMagickaBasedMagicJeweleryLimits.espMMRSpells.espSupremeMagicka.esp  . Bashed Patch tag suggestion:  {{BASH:Names,Graphics}}SM_ShiveringIsles.espSM_DLCSpellTome.espSM_OOO.espSM_MMM.espSM_COBL.espSM_EnchantStaff.espSM_UnlockSpells.espSM_Scrolls.espMidasSpells.espAudaciousMagery.espJjiinx_Enhanced Disease.espRshAlchemy.espRshAlchemyRecipes.espStealthOverhaul.espStealthOverhaul, Cobl.espZumbsLockpickingMod - OBSE.espSM Bounty.espCoblDeathFix.espRenGuardOverhaul.espRenGuardOverhaulShiveringIsles.espsycHearNoEvil.espsycSHOUT.espEnhanced Grabbing.espkuerteeNPCsYield.espkuerteeBattleFatigueAndInjuries.espkuertee MMM OnLoadCS disabled hmf effects.espDuke Patricks - Smash Of The Titans.espnGCD.espProgress Plugins Merged.espItem interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp  . Note:  Requires Bashed PatchItem interchange - Placement for Frostcrag Reborn.esp  . Note:  Requires Bashed PatchMart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp  . Bashed Patch tag suggestion:  {{BASH:Body-M,Body-F}} make sure to merge into the bashed patch and deactivate.DemonRace.esp  . Bashed Patch tag suggestion:  {{BASH:NpcFaces,Hair,Eyes,Graphics,R.Relations}}bgBalancingEVCore.esp  . Note:  bgBalancingNoSIVersion_Core_still_required.esp is required if Shivering Isles not installed.TamrielTravellers Cosmetics Cobl or RBP.espbgMagicEV.esp  . Bashed Patch tag suggestion:  {{BASH:Names,Delev,Relev}} if you are running more than one magic overhaul and want to use LAME spell names.  . Note:  Move Supreme Magica after LAME if you want Supreme Magica spell stats.bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.espbgMagicItemSigil.espbgMagicEVStartspells.espbgMagicBonus.espbgMagicEVAddEnVar.espbgMagicEVPaperChase.espbgBalancingEVOptionalClasses.espbgBalancingEVOptionalFangs.espbgBalancingEVOptionalMoreEyes.espbgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversity, TNR Merge.esp  . Note:  Use only one 'OptionalNPCDiversity' file.bgBalancingEVOptionalFCOMAdditions.espbgBalancingEVLAMEAddition.esp  . Note:  Requires LAME and Shivering Isles.bgBalancingEVLAMEGlue.esp  . Note:  Requires LAME and Shivering Isles.bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversityLAME.espbgBalancingEVOptionalSeamReducerHighElfFix.esp  . Note:  Requires Shivering Isles and Luchaire's Body Seam Reducer.bgIntegrationEV.espEnemy Actors Use Powers 0.1.esp  . Note:  Requires LAME, Shivering Isles and Race Balancing Project.TheOubliette.espReallyImmersiveMessagesNoBirthsigns.espbgMagicEVShader.espkuertee bgMagicEVShader default drain effects.espLife Detected - Skeleton - Tiny - 2.esp  . Note:  Only activate one Life Detected esp at a time.Visually Realistic Deadly Lava.espNRB4 Standard Road Record.espLet There be Darkness-Merged.esp  . Note:  Requires New Roads+Bridges.  . Note:  Use only one road record file. Recommend importing into Bashed Patch.CoreRandmonClothing4Npcs.esp  . Bashed Patch tag suggestion:  {{BASH:Filter,Invent,IIM}}All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  . Bashed Patch tag suggestion:  {{BASH:Filter,C.Climate}}  . Note:  Do not activate. Must be merged into Bashed Patch using Import Cells.Bashed Patch, 0.espBashed Patch - John.espBashed Patch - Beatrice.espDuke Patrick SCA Combat AI.espDuke Patricks - Combat Archery.espRealistic Movement.espDuke Patricks - SCA Melee Combat with NO RECOIL.esp[color="#9932cc"]OOO-Magic_Script_Effect_Fix.esp [/color]<--- this just seems out of place[color="#9932cc"]  . Bashed Patch tag suggestion:  {{BASH:Sound}}[/color]<--- this just seems out of placeDuke Patricks - BASIC Script Effect Silencer BETA.esp  . Note:  Old. Upgrade to latest version.Streamline 3.1.espkuerteeActorDetails.esp-----------------------------------------------------------------Unrecognised mod files:                                          Reorder these by hand using your favourite mod ordering utility. -----------------------------------------------------------------Unknown mod file: Creatures & NPC Creatures Alive.espUnknown mod file: Side's Sailing Ships.espUnknown mod file: Academy 1.02.espUnknown mod file: VSTutorialHouse.espUnknown mod file: VSTutorialHouse2.espUnknown mod file: Bashed Patch - Elric.espUnknown mod file: Bashed Patch - Thotep.espUnknown mod file: Bashed Patch - Vrel.espUnknown mod file: Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot beta Place After Bashed Patch.esp -----------------------------------------------------------Done.

Other than the MMM plugin which I could never get to work the rest are esp I did not add.

Also - I don't load 2-3% of the mods above - they are in there for testing purposes [a message to the well intentioned who are looking for problems in my load order].

Hopefully that is more concrete and clear.

As per my earlier post, I think I have corrected (but not uploaded) the problem you described re the "injection" point.

I will use your BOSS log to test my automatic entry creating change so that I can see if it works, but also so I can try and position the various undefined mods to see if I can reproduce some of the problems you reported.

Psymon
Just did a test using your undefined mods - in particular this is what I specified in the Undefined table...

Bashed Patch - Elric.esp ~ Bashed Patch, 0.esp
Bashed Patch - Thotep.esp ~ Bashed Patch - Elric.esp
Bashed Patch - Vrel.esp ~ Bashed Patch - Thotep.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot beta Place After Bashed Patch.esp ~ Bashed Patch - Vrel.esp

This was the masterlist result...

Bashed Patch, 0.esp
Bashed Patch - Elric.esp
Bashed Patch - Thotep.esp
Bashed Patch - Vrel.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot beta Place After Bashed Patch.esp

So it looks like it works (unless I have misunderstood something) - or of course fixed something in the new version that I used.

I have now completed all the changes I outlined in my earlier post and will upload the revised version within the next day or so - final tests and documentation updates still to do.

As I posted at the end of that post with my BOSS read out - those I did not define so that was not and never was the issue.

As I stated the issue, as I understand it, is the truncating of bash tags.
It also continued to have trouble with the MMM plugin and the OOO script effect plugin was also misplaced (I just checked it is a BOSS issue).

I will wait for the new version to test anything more out.

again - I stated that I did not define those and to ignore them.