[RELz] BOSS-F Thread 2! : Fallout 3

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:44 pm

Unrecognized mods:

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Unrecognised mod files:
Reorder these by hand using your favourite mod ordering utility.
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Unknown mod file: sc_lovers_resource.esm
Unknown mod file: sc_saving_nova_dep.esm
Unknown mod file: FreePlayAfterMQ_V05.esp
Unknown mod file: FreePlay addon - clean Potomac.esp
Unknown mod file: sc_saving_nova.esp
Unknown mod file: GalaxyNewsRadioFix[N].esp
Unknown mod file: Zumbs' Overhauled Real Time Security.esm
Unknown mod file: ZORTS - Content Destruction - Normal.esp
Unknown mod file: ZORTS - Enable minigames.esp
Unknown mod file: MegatonHouseExtraStorage.esp
Unknown mod file: Realistic Explosions.esp
Unknown mod file: Explosive Explosives v1.3.esp
Unknown mod file: RealPhysicsLessCarExplosions.esp
Unknown mod file: FleshBurningPlasma.esp

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» Sat Feb 19, 2011 7:53 am

More unrecognized files:

http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=6938
http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=14998
http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=13347
http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=11269
http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=12156
http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=11329

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 7:33 am

http://better-oblivion-sorting-software.googlecode.com/svn-history/r1662/data/boss-fallout/masterlist.txt

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:27 am

I tried installing this version for BOSS in my Fallout 3 installation. It works flawlessly in my Oblivion installation, but when I run the copy in my Fallout 3 data folder, it crashes. I did follow the installation instructions in the readme to the letter.

Just in case anyone else is having the problem and hasn't also seen the Oblivion thread - it's due to plugins that don't have lowercase extensions. (ie. ESP,Esp,eSp,esP,ESp,EsP,eSP,the same for esms.) BOSS won't recognise them as mods in your data folder and that leads to various problems resulting in a crash and possibly a messed up load order. It's already been fixed in the source code and 1.61 should be released fairly soon. I'll most likely post a message again here when it is.

EDIT: FO3 Nexus BOSS page needs an update - not sure who's got the editing access for it, but while I wouldn't recommend pointing to 1.6 due to the above bug, when 1.61 is released, it might be an idea to link to the TES Nexus page, or upload it to the FO3 Nexus page. Not sure if you want to continue with the BOSS-F differentiation or not, that's up to you guys.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:38 pm

As promised, a message: BOSS 1.61 has been released, and is available for download from the TES Nexus BOSS page. Changes include a fix for mangled load orders and crashes that 1.6 was experiencing due to non-lowercase file extensions, so it's recommended that you upgrade if using 1.6. If you're still on 1.5, or the equivalent BOSS-F, I'd also recommend upgrading - although this has a beta tag too, that's because we don't know that it is stable, not because we know it's got bugs, and the only way we can find out if it is stable is if people try it. That, and it does have a heap of improvements over BOSS-F/BOSS 1.5.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:32 am

Tnx Televator for the last updates in the masterlist, tnx Wrinklyninja for the BOSS update hints!

Please update the 3 groups of mods below:

1 - reorder Powered Power Armor plugins, replacing powered Powerer armor above its patchs.

right now:

ppa - operation anchorage.esp

? Delinquent Master: Powered Power Armor.esp

ppa - broken steel.esp

? Delinquent Master: Powered Power Armor.esp

powered power armor.esp

Also list the below two just along'em

Unknown mod file: PPA - Mothership Zeta.esp

Unknown mod file: PPA - The Pitt.esp

2 - Another one:

Unknown mod file: FNNIguana - MMMRC6.esp
should go just above
FNNsys - FWE.esp (already in BOSS)

And...

3 - Unknown mod file: RobCo Certified v2 Impervious FWE.esp

should go below RobCo Certified v2 Omnipatch.esp (already in BOSS)

Well... hope it's a good report

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:50 am

Well... hope it's a good report

Yes, indeed it is. Thanks for the heads up.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:57 am

Here are the mods I still have as Unrecognized that I hope you will might consider adding in the next Masterlist update:

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Unrecognised mod files:
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Unknown mod file: EVE.esm
Unknown mod file: Gunfire Sound Range Increased.esp
Unknown mod file: eyepatches-english.esp
Unknown mod file: Aim Toggle.esp
Unknown mod file: KnockYourselfOut.esp
Unknown mod file: BrokenSteelFix-GNRAnnouncements.esp
Unknown mod file: M1911.esp
Unknown mod file: Spartan Armor.esp
Unknown mod file: 1jeansandshirt.esp
Unknown mod file: Geo_PW_Casualwear_01_V01.esp
Unknown mod file: Dante's Scythes.esp
Unknown mod file: 1 Camon Thompson M1923 + SD + 45 RT.esp
Unknown mod file: ModernWarfare.esp
Unknown mod file: The Mall OverHaul.esp
Unknown mod file: M14_EBR.esp
Unknown mod file: HoverChair 0.4.2.esp
Unknown mod file: HoverChair 0.4.2 - MK2.esp
Unknown mod file: MyMansion_VanillaFollowersWait.esp
Unknown mod file: MyMansion_CustomTLPaintings.esp
Unknown mod file: Chinese Stealth Armor NoHelm NoBug Workaround.esp
Unknown mod file: drc_FatManUltra.esp
Unknown mod file: MGSBox.esp
Unknown mod file: Slower Degradation (-95%).esp
Unknown mod file: HK416_v1-5_munkee.esp
Unknown mod file: Remove That Glove.esp
Unknown mod file: BLTC No Visual Effects.esp
Unknown mod file: BLTC No Overdosing.esp
Unknown mod file: Ahztek's M16 Pack.ESP
Unknown mod file: FalconPunch.esp
Unknown mod file: Sydney Follower - Project Beauty Appearance - Custom Hair.esp

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» Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:57 pm

Here are the mods I still have as Unrecognized that I hope you will might consider adding in the next Masterlist update:

Please provide some links for all those mods.
And to ride out dupes... run BOSS with an updated masterlist from http://better-oblivion-sorting-software.googlecode.com/svn/data/boss-fallout/masterlist.txt before posting.
Thank you.

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:34 pm

hello, do u guys still update the masterlist? I have some mods that are not recognizable.

Unknown mod file: Malos_Arena_DV.esm
Unknown mod file: http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=14773
Unknown mod file: http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=13868
Unknown mod file: Apocalypse Armory - CALIBR.esp
Unknown mod file: Apocalypse Armory - xCALIBR.esp
Unknown mod file: Apocalypse Armory - DLC Enhancements.esp
Unknown mod file: Apocalypse Armory + EVE.esp
Unknown mod file: http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=14385
Unknown mod file: http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=1552
Unknown mod file: http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=97
Unknown mod file: http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=1647
Unknown mod file: DIM CUSTOM RACES V2.esp
Unknown mod file: http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=1513
Unknown mod file: http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=3050
Unknown mod file: http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=4688
Unknown mod file: SS Weapon Effects.esm (Weapon Effects By Saiden Storm)
Unknown mod file: SS Weapon Effects Pile Removal.esp
Unknown mod file: http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=6379
Unknown mod file: http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=4207
Unknown mod file: http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=7412
Unknown mod file: WastelandHomes.esp
Unknown mod file: http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=10261
Unknown mod file: http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=6930
Unknown mod file: http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=1927
Unknown mod file: Brawl_Pit_Fixes.esp
Unknown mod file: Brawl_Pit_TheCage.esp
Unknown mod file: http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=14908
Unknown mod file: http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=9075

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:10 am

More mods!! Please add these to the masterlist!! Thanks =)

Unknown mod file: http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=8747
Unknown mod file: TSC Air Support.esp
Unknown mod file: http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=101
Unknown mod file: http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=3321
Unknown mod file: http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=14459
Unknown mod file: http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=2959
Unknown mod file: http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=15010
Unknown mod file: http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=2390
Unknown mod file: http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=2889
Unknown mod file: http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=4708
Unknown mod file: http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=2296
Unknown mod file: http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=5604
Unknown mod file: http://fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=2630
Unknown mod file: http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=8080
Unknown mod file: http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=7174
Unknown mod file: http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=9366
Unknown mod file: http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=9895
Unknown mod file: http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=12627
Unknown mod file: http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=6259
Unknown mod file: http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=13805
Unknown mod file: http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=8219
Unknown mod file: http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=14449
Unknown mod file: http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=14459
Unknown mod file: http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=12887
Unknown mod file: http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=3748
Unknown mod file: RatTraqeyeCandy.esp
Unknown mod file: RatTrapSound.esp
Unknown mod file: RatTrapRadio.esp
Unknown mod file: http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=10228
Unknown mod file: SShopItems.esp

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:51 am

4 more please.

Unknown mod file: http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=867
Unknown mod file: http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=15222
Unknown mod file: http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=1448
Unknown mod file: http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=7618

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:40 am

Unrecognized mod files (after using latest masterlist from google this morning):

http://fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=13703
http://fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=14499
http://fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=6617
http://fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=8902
http://fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=8902
http://fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=8902
http://planetfallout.gamespy.com/mods/52/Fat-Man-Ultra
http://fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=3974
http://fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=5757
http://fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=1039
http://fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=117
http://fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=117
http://fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=117
http://fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=117
http://fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=14259
http://fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=13062
http://fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=11103
http://fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=2191
http://fallout3.filefront.com/file/AlexScorpions-Sniper-Gear;105795

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:40 am

Hi all.

I currently have commit rights to BOSS and have been mostly and intermittently just handling http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1132338-boss-for-nehrim/ (total conversion for Oblivion) mods, but I still do play Fallout3 and have not move on to New Vegas.

So as such I just made a commit and added these mods:

Unknown mod file: Inventory Access.esm

Unknown mod file: Ambient Temperature HUD.esp

Unknown mod file: Down Under.esp

Unknown mod file: Canterbury Estates 0.8 beta.esp

Unknown mod file: NightmareRealm.esp

Unknown mod file: FO3 Quest Patch - FWE + BS.esp

Unknown mod file: tubURP.esp

Unknown mod file: Zumbs' Smaller Condition Effect On Item Value.esp

Unknown mod file: AlexScorpion's and Weijiesen's Smoking Fun.esp

Unknown mod file: IMCN - Ambient Temperature.esp

Unknown mod file: PPA - IMCN.esp

Unknown mod file: xCALIBR - Alternative Path.esp

Unknown mod file: Ambient Temperature.esm

Unknown mod file: LMDExpandedHotkeysFO3.esp

I would not call myself an expert on these mods or on Fallout mod load order quirks. So if you are the author or know of better placement please let me know.

I may look at others to add that have been posted above, but can get kind of busy with other projects, real life, and Oblivion gaming. So I would not call my commitment level high.

What would make doing these easier is having the exact spelling of the mod ... such as AlexScorpion's and Weijiesen's Smoking Fun.esp and the link. PLUS a description of what kind of mod and where it ought to go. Otherwise think about it - it would require reading up on it myself (or whoever does do it) and researching that info myself.

Please feel free to edit posts above to add a '- quest mod, I load after so and so mod that is recognized' after your entries. Otherwise this is a very tedious task and not fun to get through. If you are gungho and want to contribute please contact WrinklyNinja or other BOSS admin person and ask to sign up.

[edit] Also while looking at the masterlist I see that StreetLights.esm is loading before BrokenSteel.esm ... why is that?

thanks

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:15 am

Just a heads up post. The FO3 Nexus BOSS page has finally been updated with a new stable version of BOSS (1.64). It is a massive improvement over the old version of BOSS which was hosted there, containing heaps of fixes and improvements and new features, so I'd recommend that everyone upgrades ASAP.

I see that not much has been happening on the FO3 side of BOSS, so all those reported unknowns haven't yet been added. I'm not sure what's up with that, the committers must just be very busy (as usual!

). If anyone does feel like lending them a hand, just PM one of the Google Code admins (PacificMorrowind or I are probably best), and we can get you started.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 11:49 am

Thanks

Yeah I'm lazy - and playing 3 different versions of Oblivion - but yeah lazy too.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:26 am

Unknown mod file: More Ammo.esp

Unknown mod file: More Ammo (Explosive).esp

Both From a very old mod Called http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=2364

Edit: Might need deathitems tag if used with CALIBRE (unconfirmed by me, I only have 19 mods installed including DLC)

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:09 pm

Glad BOSS is at least getting some updates for Fo3!

I have come to appreciate BOSS quite alot in the last few years, makes life much easier.

Cheers,

Miax

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:03 am

Well sorry I've not updated in a while - got lost in Nehrim which in turn dragged me into playing Gothic 3 foe the first time and I'm liking it.

Though I encourage anyone with the passion to update BOSS to contact the team linked in the first post.

It seems daunting at first but after making a few commits it is cake actually - and talk about always having your load order up to date.

I'm much more familiar with Oblivion overhauls and as such I don't feel as comfortable placing the overhauls for Fallout3.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:30 am

I don't think any apologies are necessary, its great that you made an update as there wouldn't be one otherwise.

I heard Nehrim is awesome, I will have to try it out before Skyrim comes out!

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:56 am

Unknown mod file: More Ammo.esp

Unknown mod file: More Ammo (Explosive).esp

Both From a very old mod Called http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=2364

Edit: Might need deathitems tag if used with CALIBRE (unconfirmed by me, I only have 19 mods installed including DLC)

Done some testing and it seems if you allow Wrye Flash to merge these plugins they don't work. I've tried deathitems tags to no avail, so these need to be active in order to work.

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:22 pm

OK, this is getting silly now

Unrecogised Mod Files
Reorder these by hand using your favourite mod ordering utility.

Unknown mod file: http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=7701

BOSS google code supporters not even adding their own mods? Come on guys what were you thinking?

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:55 pm

I don't think Arthmoor ever played the game but once and that is more or less a port of a mod from Oblivion.

Not even sure if it was out after BOSS for F3 was out.

But here is a novel idea - if it is so important to you why don't you step up and become a member? it is not difficult.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:16 am

Done some testing and it seems if you allow Wrye Flash to merge these plugins they don't work. I've tried deathitems tags to no avail, so these need to be active in order to work.

So what are you asking here? ( I don't normally update the FO3 masterlist, so a little more explanation please.)

OK, this is getting silly now

Unrecogised Mod Files
Reorder these by hand using your favourite mod ordering utility.

Unknown mod file: http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=7701

BOSS google code supporters not even adding their own mods? Come on guys what were you thinking?

I don't know about it being silly, but with the thousands of mods out there, its inevitable that some still haven't been added.
Arthmoor writes the code, he is probably not involved with updating the masterlist very much if at all.

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:29 pm

I don't think Arthmoor ever played the game but once and that is more or less a port of a mod from Oblivion.

Not even sure if it was out after BOSS for F3 was out.

But here is a novel idea - if it is so important to you why don't you step up and become a member? it is not difficult.

I wasn't aware anyone could join and start adding unknowns. The other thing is tho, I have no idea where mods should actually go, hence my need to BOSS my load order about. My Oblivion game was rediculasly unstable untill I started using BOSS.

So what are you asking here? ( I don't normally update the FO3 masterlist, so a little more explanation please.)

This More ammo mod is behaving oddly for my. Maybe its because FO3 handles mods differently to OBlivion and it's a Wrye Flash issue. Anyhow, I installed it via BAIN and the esps showed up green, so I merged them into the bashed patch and went off to play. There was no difference in the amount of ammo I found on dead thnigs I'd killed, so I activated the plugings and retested and it worked correctly. I then tried merging the plugins and added different tags (like death.items and invent) but they still didn't work, they have to be active. Adding the nomerge tag makes Flash want to deactivate them automatically, which is wrong (I use several ob mods taged with nomorge which need to be active). Anyhow - it seems this is a Wyre flash issue.
I you could be so kind as to add the more ammo plugins I listed previously I would be most grateful

They could go with other ammo adding mods, but the only other ones I've seen just increase vendor stocks - not actually put more on the dead bodies.

I don't know about it being silly, but with the thousands of mods out there, its inevitable that some still haven't been added.
Arthmoor writes the code, he is probably not involved with updating the masterlist very much if at all.

Sorry if I sounded rude, I really didn't mean to. I thought it oddly ammusing that Arthmoor's only FO3 mod isn't on the masterlist despite him added several hundred to oblivion's, many at my request!