What a BIG disapointing on buing DVD version. Nothing on disc, basically just a launcher. And With my internet connection, download time is about 1 day. BIG no no to Bethesda. for this. And that "force married with Steam", why? This is single player game. Allready thinking Fallout4 was waste of money allready, even I haven't got it installed yet.

I have been thru all the **kbps but during a time when games were shipped on floppy!

For the record, I got lucky and chose the Steam pre-order and I fortunately can get HSI at my home, so my experience was totally different than most of you.

but.. had I bought the DVD set and then found out I had to DL 19gb, I WOULD HAVE LOST MY MIND!!

I feel your pain. I think suppliers should give install options that match what their customers need.

but once all of that is behind you, it really is glorious

Single player game or not, piracy forced them to do it...

Well said Megaburn.

PC Master Race is evolving into PC Steam Slave Race.

Not purchasing this unless they do some serious soul searching and change some of their priorities.

Ignorance to piracy maybe, but not piracy itself. Because they will only believe they succeeded if they have been completely ignoring the internet for the past two days before today. Hint, they failed, embarrassingly.

There is absolutely no reason the physical version should not have had a warning. Further more there is no reason buyers of the physical version should have not been provided with a code to pre load( assuming the warning, had there been one, didn't put them off from buying). Either way, lesson learned. I know who deserves my money and who doesn't.

What a load of crap! As soon as it was released on Steam it was pirated.
Bethesda are just trying to force people away from physical purchases plain and simple. It is all about the mighty $, nothing more nothing less. Why pay to have disks and covers printed and shipped to stores if you can just sell it straight across the Internet and reduce overheads and maximise profit. The piracy [censored] is just a smokescreen.

I had the same problem when installing Skyrim for the first time, two years ago. It's Steams fault, not gamesass. Only think you can do is disconnect your internet until it requires the online verification.

The reason many people buy a physical copy is because they have internet limitations. To pull this move on them is completely absurd. If there was some sort of clear warning on the copy of the game then that would be different. I'm honestly having a difficult time wrapping my head around it. Combating piracy by screwing over your paying customers doesn't make a ton of sense.

I own several Bethesda games. Going forward this really makes me wonder if I should be supporting Bethesda, or the pirates.

Indeed, but we should not expect even a percentage on the disk to begin with; instead the entirety of the purchased product in full. Business practices such as this are anti-consumer in general. Bad business is bad business & should be punished; but in this economic sector such is difficult when a majority would rather have the product than complain about it. Only if this part of the entertainment industry had a version of the better business bureau.

I'm on my 2nd attempt after wasting 4 hours to get to 75%. My power flickered earlier today, as it does frequently around here, and I had to restart from 0%. I'm more than a bit annoyed that failed to save my progress when the power went out. Like many, I pre-ordered on announcement day, long before we knew that the physical copy contained very little data. Had I known that this was an issue I wouldn't have purchased a physical copy at all and instead would have tried to pre-download a day or two ago, or even better, overnight. What a frustrating waste of time.

This is probably to control the common copy of the data; you can't patch a DVD if the player doesn't want it.

Remember Neverwinter Nights? When their artist included character portraits of Robert De Nero, Catherine Zeta-Jones, Angelina Jolie, and others... They were on the disk. Bioware replaced them in the patch, but they could not pull them from the discs.

Truer words have never been seen on these forums.

MegaBurn - You and me both. I saw Skyrim and New Vegas come and go, despite big interest, and now I′m doing the same with Fallout 4. Oblivion was road′s end regarding TES and Fallout 3 regarding, well, Fallout

Skyrim was the same way 4 years ago....not sure why anyone would ever think they would go back to something they clearly had already dropped.

For better or for worse, Digital is the way gaming is becoming on the PC, "monthly data cap" people are such a minority now a days that they matter little to corporations.

I haven't been on these forums in years and I've been avoiding information on fallout 4 just to be surprised by the game.

I have 40gb of monthly data. I'm in an area with no cable or dsl, so I have to use 3g. I bought the physical game to avoid downloading 75% of my monthly usage. I got a package with one dvd and 25gb to download. It's ridiculous that they would do that, let alone not mention it in the description.

This should have been 5 or 6 dvds. I'm super irritated, I have the day off tomorrow and was looking forward to spending a fair amount of time in FO4. Instead it'll probably be Saturday before I'm able to play.

And Skyrim was the first PC game in a longggggg time to actually leak early in full playable form. If I remember correctly it leaked on a Thursday night prior to the Tuesday release. It beat FO4 by three days.

You've good reason to be; I'd say. I hope they do not repeat this with the GoTY edition; (which is the one I expect to get, if I like the reviews on the GECK)..

I would like to post a reply to some of the comments on this thread. First off I feel really badly for those of you who's downloads will take a long time. Especially for those of you who took the day off from work to sit around and wait for an all day download. For those of you going on about how "this guy is complaining about a two hour download?" Yes I am because I expected my content to be available for me on DVD. At someone point in the future this game will be uninstalled and probably reinstalled after that. So to those people I say your missing the entire point of the thread. There shouldn't be a massive download. I am totally ok with a small download for the "security" they talk about. But I wish it had been made clear on the website or on the boxes. Also people are commenting that this subject has been an ongoing conversation on this forum. Well I'm 32 and I don't lurk in the forums all the time like I use to. As a consumer I shouldn't have to. That's all

I hear ya man. No one who bought the disc should've had anything more than a few minutes of something to DL. Unfortunately there is absolutely no oversight in this industry which allows for companies to do this sort of thing. Hopefully it'll get bad enough one day that a civil suit is filed and forces publishers to put warnings on the boxes.

Um what? Do you know who Comcast is? Comcast with their Xfinity program is the biggest Cable and Internet Service Provider in the United States and they impose a 300GB monthly data cap on almost everyone who uses them in the United States.

Comcast earns like $1 billion dollars (USD) a year. They are a big corporation and their the ones doing this, so no we are not in the minority.

Here you go. Read this.

http://i.imgur.com/ACfWAAC.jpg

Same here. I used steam for a time in the past and HATE IT and I will NEVER use it again. So many things about it I just do not agree with and lags all gameplay no matter what game I play. I bought the physical game to AVOID Steam and any DIGITAL download. We're on disablity and I had to save up for this game the whole year and I sat in line for hours to buy the game, season pass and strategy guide. Opened game to instal to my PC and realized I can not without downloading from steam. ARE YOU KIDDING ME! WTF is this [censored]. Now sitting here with an opened copy not knowing what I'm going to do. I will NOT instal steam NOR will I use it. EVER! We can't afford an XBox one or PS4 so this was our only option. I sent in a complaint and I better get a copy of a disc that has the full game on it.

was a double post so deleted it. (Or tried to)

Well just saying I double checked and saw it, so preordered off steam a couple days before then pre loaded it, and only had to download a small patch at midnight. Although it did take like 30 minutes because everyone else was also downloading. Sure should they have made it more know yeah, but everyone had the opportunity to check.