Bound-Armor bug: : IV

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:09 pm

Hey all, I seem to have recently run into a problem involving the bound-curriass summoned from a rune stone; As stated in the topic description, it won't stop equipping and reequipping every second.
Here's my load-order as of now; I've installed and removed a few mods since the last time, so I'm sure the problem lies here:

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Oblivion.esm
TR_OoT_Main.esm
You Are Here.esm
Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm
Cobl Main.esm
Mart's Monster Mod.esm
CM Partners.esm
Easy_Companion_Share.esm
Younger Hotter NPC's v1.0.esp
Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp
Natural_Weather_by_Max_Tael.esp
Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp
Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp
AliveWaters.esp
AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp
AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp
Added Realistic NPC's v1.0.esp
Ayleid Loot EXtension.esp
Fatality Cam.esp
P1DseeYouSleep.esp
Purge Cell Buffers - Loading.esp
SI Living Economy.esp
DLCHorseArmor.esp
DLCOrrery.esp
DLCVileLair.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
AlternativeLightArmors12.esp
Battledress.esp
ClassyClothingCompendium.esp
DaedricCrescentBlade.esp
LootableLichHelm_Hvy.esp
Rogue Sun's Blood Lust Dress.esp
SickleIrons_RT.esp
SilverwareWeapons.esp
VA_DaedricPriestessArmour.esp
LeatherHunterArmour.esp
Daedric Lord Armor.esp
DLCThievesDen.esp
Francesco's Optional Files 1.esp
Francesco's Optional Files 2.esp
Francesco's Optional Files 3.esp
Mart's Monster Mod for Fran.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Durability & Damage.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Fran's leveled quests.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp
kuerteeWanderingEncounters.esp
Ivellon.esp
AyleidArrows.esp
Fort Baltsine.esp
OldCrowInn.esp
RuinsOfBrenfa.esp
Spear_of_Bitter_Mercy.esp
sunk ships.esp
The Ayleid Steps.esp
TR_Stirk.esp
VOILA - Soldiers of Empire.esp
DLCFrostcrag.esp
Knights.esp
The Lost Spires.esp
ElsweyrAnequina.esp
Faregyl.esp
xuldarkforest.esp
xulStendarrValley.esp
xulTheHeath.esp
XulEntiusGorge.esp
xulFallenleafEverglade.esp
LostSpires-Everglade patch.esp
xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp
xulBravilBarrowfields.esp
xulAncientRedwoods.esp
xulAspenWood.esp
Moriarcis.esp
Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp
Harvest [Flora].esp
Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp
Bag of Holding.esp
Cliff's Shacks Basemants-Radiant AI.esp
DS Less Predictable Respawn.esp
fadingtorches v1.3b.esp
M.O.E. - Lycanthropy and Lichcraft.esp
P1DkeyChain.esp
persuasioncompatable1.8.esp
Quest Award Leveller.esp
Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp
AyleidMeteorIronWeaponsVANILLA.esp
RealisticForceMedium.esp
SetEssentialActors.esp
SupremeMagicka.esp
SM_ShiveringIsles.esp
MidasSpells.esp
Syc_AtHomeAlchemy.esp
attack and hide medium v2.1.esp
Deadlier Traps.esp
sycHearNoEvil.esp
Enhanced Grabbing.esp
SamVimes's Feint Death.esp
actors_in_charge.esp
Let There Be Darkness - Cyrodiil + SI.esp
Let There Be Darkness - Knights.esp
Let There Be Darkness - Mehrunes Razor.esp
CM Partners.esp
CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp
ArianaTrudeaux.esp
Francesco's 10 days respawn time - 1-20 day lenght rescale.esp
SPAWN.esp
Get Wet - just droplets.esp
Shining Creatures.esp
Capucine'sEyeSelection.esp
Nightshade_Armor_ConflictFree.esp
Alkwynd.esp
Sunken Chapel.esp
stfArenaRaiment.esp
RTBlackEveningDress.esp
PTActorsCare.esp
PTFallingStars.esp
DarknessHollows.esp
BFG's Enhanced Armory.esp
Streetvendors.esp
Weapon Expansion Pack for Oblivion Nthusiasts.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 6:17 pm

This might help you.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Bound_Armor bug

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:05 pm

This might help you.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Bound_Armor bug

No, that's not it

I should have mentioned that I didn't have this problem before.

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:20 am

Not related to your problem, but Midas Magic and Moriarcis are not compatible. They edit the same cells, as I read from Moriarcis' Readme...

EDIT: You use MMM, so try using SM_MMM plugin from Supreme Magicka, and SM_Cobl with Cobl. Don't know if there is something similar for Fran's

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:32 am

Not related to your problem, but Midas Magic and Moriarcis are not compatible. They edit the same cells, as I read from Moriarcis' Readme...

EDIT: You use MMM, so try using SM_MMM plugin from Supreme Magicka, and SM_Cobl with Cobl. Don't know if there is something similar for Fran's

Thanks! I'll see if this fixes the issue

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:10 pm

Unfortunately it did not

However, I found something while looking at the console that might be related; There is an invalid script error in the file "7a003e9b" from the mod BFG's Enhanced Armory.esp. I'll try removing it and seeing if that affects anything.
EDIT: Problem Solved! Aw man, and I really liked using that mod

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:42 pm

Hmm, that's very strange. Sorry to see that my mod is causing the problem!
Have you tried installing the latest Unofficial Oblivion Patch Supplemental? It changes all Bound Armor into quest items. I think this will fix the problem, because my mod intentionally ignored quest items.

If that does not fix it, let me know!
(Or, alternatively, you could just turn that part of the mod off in the INI until I am able to fix it.)

EDIT: Hmm, very strange. I just tried a Reman Rune Stone now, and did not have the problem. Are you using the latest version of BEAR (1.751)? Earlier versions did suffer from the "unequipping/reequipping" bug. Also, what are you wearing just before using the Reman stone?

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:17 pm

Hmm, that's very strange. Sorry to see that my mod is causing the problem!
Have you tried installing the latest Unofficial Oblivion Patch Supplemental? It changes all Bound Armor into quest items. I think this will fix the problem, because my mod intentionally ignored quest items.

If that does not fix it, let me know!
(Or, alternatively, you could just turn that part of the mod off in the INI until I am able to fix it.)

EDIT: Hmm, very strange. I just tried a Reman Rune Stone now, and did not have the problem. Are you using the latest version of BEAR (1.751)? Earlier versions did suffer from the "unequipping/reequipping" bug. Also, what are you wearing just before using the Reman stone?

Yeah, that was the version I'm using. My character was wearing and iron cuirass before. It seems the problem begins only a few seconds after the bound cuirass is first equipped.
The bound sword is fine.

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 4:04 pm

Yeah, that was the version I'm using. My character was wearing and iron cuirass before. It seems the problem begins only a few seconds after the bound cuirass is first equipped.
The bound sword is fine.

The strange thing is, the bound cuirass should not unequip and reequip at all. If working properly, BEAR only does an unequip/reequip when it needs to adjust the enchantment on a piece of armor - but the bound cuirass is not enchanted.
Do you have any other mods that also affect the bound cuirass? Maybe some other mod is trying to unequip it, and so BEAR keeps trying to reequip?
Is the bound cuirass, or the iron cuirass you were wearing before the Reman stone was used, enchanted? If so, what enchantment?

If you are willing, I'd like you to temporarily turn all your mods off except BEAR, and see if the problem still occurs. If it doesn't, then it may be that BEAR is conflicting with another of your mods.

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 7:11 pm

The strange thing is, the bound cuirass should not unequip and reequip at all. If working properly, BEAR only does an unequip/reequip when it needs to adjust the enchantment on a piece of armor - but the bound cuirass is not enchanted.
Do you have any other mods that also affect the bound cuirass? Maybe some other mod is trying to unequip it, and so BEAR keeps trying to reequip?
Is the bound cuirass, or the iron cuirass you were wearing before the Reman stone was used, enchanted? If so, what enchantment?

If you are willing, I'd like you to temporarily turn all your mods off except BEAR, and see if the problem still occurs. If it doesn't, then it may be that BEAR is conflicting with another of your mods.

Well, I think the Curiass I was wearing may have been enchanted, it's the "Royal Cuirass". I have BEAR loaded towards the end of my load-list, but I'll try and test it without any mods later. Thanks for the support, and the overall great mod!