I really want to reply to this but I'm afraid of The Bear ripping my guts out if I do so. >_>

I'll just hope for bows in a DLC or Fallout 4.

[9/23/2010 21:45 UTC]: Price quoted for dose of LSD in a thread about having bows as a weapon in Fallout games.

Logged. You've been immortalized in The Big Book of WTF.

Hmmm what are you making a log for?

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What is The Big Book of WTF?

Heck yeah to a Bow and Arrow.

-Classic Recurve Bow: The stronger your character is, the farther you can pull back, farther the arrow travels.

-Compound Bow: One with maybe 75 to 100 lb weight, where you could hold it longer without straining for a steadier shot.

Arrows could then be recollected from the corpse, as in Oblivion.

I'm keeping a log of things that don't make sense or are unexpected. Don't mind me...it's just a game I've started playing in discussion forums for my own amusemant.

Be sure to give me a copy of it later when it's close to being finalized.

No deal. How bout' 3 tabs for $12? [Barter 67%]

How bout you get out of my store [speech challenge failed]

I can picture Rambo styled assassinations. Then fit the tips with explosives.

I wonder how hard it would be to port the bow mechanics from Oblivion to the FO3/NV engine. Any of you modders have an idea?

http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=11454 added a crossbow to Fallout 3, though I can't say I've tried it. There are 38 endorsemants and this leads me to believe that it has to work somewhat well. The pictures look pretty good.

I don't see any reason why this couldn't be added to New Vegas, and if they work well, then any kind of bow. The flight mechanics may not be there for that nice, arcing shot that we had with the Oblivion bows, I'd have to try this crossbow mod out to be sure. But at least it's been done!

Question is; why didn't they add these to New Vegas? Is it against the Canon? It's curious...

5 dollars? That's the bad stuff you want-
wait, I've said too much. THEY'RE COMING TO TAKE ME AWAY!


But yeah, bow and arrow. There's a spear, so why not?

I saw that though I didn't install it since it looks like it uses the bow animations given the placement of the arms and hands; kinda turned me off from trying it and I REALLY want crossbows in Oblivion.

More on topic: I'm no expert by any means but can't you just take the bow animations and stuff from Oblivion, alter the code if needed, and transplant that into Fallout? Sounds easy though I have no idea what kind of work or time would be needed to do such a thing.

Sling. You be Goliath. Whaaat? I was kiddin'.

any chance 'Crazy Cajun' and Do'tirath are willing to spend weeks and months working together to add "this should be easy enough" bows to fallout new vegas?

Can't someone use Oblivion's resources and animation with bows to create something similar in FNV? Same engine, it might be possible to port some things.

Only if you help. :laugh:

Like I said I'm no expert so of course it's going to seem easy to me.

No.

This is a strict rule - assets from one game cannot be used in another. Fallout New Vegas and Fallout 3 are unique in that one is using many assets from the other, and as such Only Those assets that have been carried-over into FNV can be re-used. Nothing from Oblivion can be. Thus if bows are to ever be added to New Vegas as a mod, then the modder will have to come up with their own animations or get permission from another modder who has made their own models and animations - which is probably why they havn't been added in abundance as mods.

Oh, seriously? Hmmm okay...

Also, and correct me if I'm wrong here since you know a hell of a lot more about this than me, but wouldn't using the programming from Oblivion, even if it were legal, mean you'd need accees to the source code, which we don't have. All we have is the construction set editor right? Am I on the right track here?

The developers shouldn't be leaving it up to the user to supply this kinda content anyhow.... As many of us have noted, there isn't a good reason to NOT include bows into the setting.... That would mean that the developers have some secret reason why it WON'T work. Seems like they could just pop on here, explain what the challenge is and end this debate right now... Unless they get some sick pleasure outta watching us yank handfuls of hair from our scalps trying to solve the mystery.

Of course it would work. I mean it's still mostly the same engine as TES4. The FO3 engine models ballistic arcs (see grenade) so it's just a matter of meshes, textures and programming. All of which take time, and time was really the only fixed asset, aside from budget, that I bet they really had on this project. It is quite possible that the time neccessary for the task was spent elsewhere, say, like on the new companions.

Wouldn't people start to call this oblivion with guns, or was tha only with fallout 3??

People will always argue... no matter what. There are people out there who calls FNV, Fallout 3 II, or Oblivion With Guns 2.
It's annoying, most of them are just trolls. But, they will keep complaining...

But yeah, I believe more of those idiots would say that.

Hmm, everyone has a specific draw length, typically touching the thumb to the corner of the mouth. if you mess with that you won't hit anything. Plus i have a reflexed Osage orange bow that is ninety pounds i can get quite a few shots off before i am too sore to use it anymore. Maybe a strength stat determines how much weight you can hold for how long, particularly since you use your back muscles for the bulk of your work. I don't think it makes a lot of sense to have compound bows since given the history arc since compound bows weren't even invented until 1966 and there wasn't exactly a great need for it to be invented before the nukes fell and no one with the desire or the knowledge to do it after.