I was born a male. Throughout my entire life I have always been envious of females. There are so many things to like about them. But I will never truly have the chance to know one because I am too shy. Since at-least kinder-garden I have had to fantasize and have faith that I will one day be worthy of their attention. I am 19 now and out of high-school. Nothing has really changed.

Maybe I wouldn't feel so abandoned if I had friends. But it has been 5 years or so since I moved to my new home and none have come forth.

I appreciate every effort the female minds make for the modding community. But because this is the internet of anonymous users, it is torture for me knowing I can only interact with the virtual products of theirs and will never ever get a chance to share a real moment with them.

In summary I am not going to take the risk of using a mod made by a female, because when all is done and said there will only be more heart-ache.

The poll worked for me, but I can't say that it reflects my mod choices.

I'm 100% male and play male characters as it is easier to immerse in role playing that way. Am I "a full grown advlt"? I play computer games and have Star Wars figures, so maybe not.

I like mods that extend the original game without remaking it. I don't want Star Wars, samurai, elves and such in Fallout. Let them have their own games. So, quest mods and new lands that fit in with the FO3 world are what appeal to me. They don't have to be completely "canon" though, as long as they are plausible to the original concept.

I don't really care what my character looks like so I don't download strictly cosmetic mods, like hair, eyes and such.

Never download house mods or companion mods.

Perhaps one reason that Fallout 3 seems to have fewer female fans than Morrowind or Oblivion is because it is much more war-like to begin with. My sister liked Morrowind because she could roleplay a mage and hang out in the cities, enjoy the pretty scenery, trade things and take over homes and decorate them, but hated "all the fighting". She isn't interested in Fallout at all. One reason is because it reminds her that nuclear/biological/chemical war is an all too real possibility, and she prefers to escape into a fantasy of magic and myth.

On the other hand, I grew up playing war with my brother and friends so Fallout warfare and anarchy seems like good fantasy fun.

I think you nailed it. I could agree with you on this point. I have five sisters only two of them play games but they only liked morrowind and oblivion because they never really was forced to fight, they could escape into a harmless fantasy.

I like the fighting, so I fell in with all them perfectly.

No offense, but some things may be best left unsaid.

I don't download a ton of house mods, I downloaded stompers homes for let in Morrowind because I was sick of killing an innocent for their home. The apartment in Balmora is the best, btw. I have a mod that let's you buy containers, totally pimped it out. I'm a horder, so when you run out of places to store stuff in Morrowind, it's house hunting time.

This isn't the case with Oblivion and Fallout 3. Containers are unlimited in their storage compacity. Convienient? Hell yes. Realistic. Not at all. It allows you to use one house, and use it forever. As long as you have five containers, you're gold. One for each catagory. No need to go house hunting. No need for other house mods.

Maybe the problem is the megaton/tenpenny house is enough. With unlimited container space you can store it all in one place. Maybe if containers still had a limit, maybe we'd go house hunting more?

I'm male, over 20 (actually over 20X2, lol ) and I am split very evenly between your choices of mod preference.

RE: Housing - I understand some folks' preference for a run down shack type environment to live in. However, am I to believe that after 200 years that people couldn't even muster enough self esteem that they could not even pick up the trash on the floor? (Or did it become permanently fossilized into the flooring?) How many times does Christine Young have to sweep up around Rivet City before she get's it clean? My point is that it doesn't have to be as beautiful as my Chekov's Place mod, but housing CAN be clean and organized and still fit in the game world. I simply REFUSE to live in squalor, and I need lots of storage options for my gear! So I would say housing is right up there for me, especially with the crappy houses we were given in vanilla FO3.

If I ran any of these "settlements" or HQ's and there were rubble piles everywhere and piles of crap everywhere I would have a cleanup detail on the job ASAP. It's fine to have some rubble in a location not touched by humans in 200 years, but after I move in, I want to clean up the place a bit!

Uhh... No. NO. You do not put women on a pedestal, if you ever want to find a mate.
I'll tell you a secret about women: They're just like men. All that "Women are from Venus, men are from Mars" crap is just people trying to sell you something. If you just admire women from afar as some kind of ethereal perfect creatures that are on some different plane of existence than you, you're not going to get very far with them. Like I said, women are just like men, with some "minor" biological differences that give them their own aches (and occasional bleeding), and the society telling them to spend moar time on their appearance. They have hopes, dreams, interests and dislikes. Some of them are smart and funny, some dumb as a post. And some them even have same interests as you, as you've noticed on this board. And the only way you're going to find any of this out is by talking to them!

When you next hit a mall or something, if you see a girl you like the look of, just go in there and say Hi, I'm . If they give you the cold shoulder, just leave gracefully and forget about it. There are millions of women your age around. You're bound to run into someone who digs your style. You might even find a girl who likes shy nervous guys.

There might be some heart-ache ahead. You might not be perfect for eachother, and it might take some time to find that out. But just like riding a bike, you accept the risk of falling, because the benefits outweigh the risk.



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Now I have to agree with Balok. I think that there would be some maintenance. I think Megaton is about the best ingame example - post-war homes, relatively low amounts of trash, and safe walls. But I think I'd be more preoccupied with finding my families' next meal rather than picking up some old magazines off my porch. Of course, that excuse only gets so far. You can't hunt all the time.

But squalor, no. Realism, yes. There's just no way to explain away a five story mansion with every amenity. But a one or two story house with basic water and electricity I can see. And people would rather repair an old house than build a new one, in many cases. Places like Canterbury especially, where the brick walls would be sturdy and it would be easier to fix the roof.

I don't know. It all boils down to personal taste.

:rolleyes: Believe it or not, there are females who actually enjoy war-like games (myself included). I always play as a warrior (or the equivalent) I hate being a squishy mage or a rouge, and my characters always tend to fall in the violent, almost sadistic side all of these characters are, of course, female. I actually got bored of Oblivion and Morrowind. Sure, the game is pretty to look at, but I don't care about pretty, I care about gameplay, story, and "all the fighting".



This. Good advice.

My 11 year old goddaughter likes Oblivion because of the whacking-of-monsters-with-sharp-pointy-things bit. She'd be playing Fallout 3 atm, but her father's PC can't run it.

She also likes rock climbing.

I'm so proud of her.

So you've answered my question: "male, likes war stuff".

I know that's a crude generalisation, but it was the one I was going for.

When I was tallying the responses to update the poll after it was fixed, I just categorised the answers into "war" and "peace".


I love her "you'd never believe I clean this place!" line


That's basically the central premise behind all my modding: my assumption that, after 200 years, someone would have made a very reasonable attempt to clean the place up a bit.

That's why I'm making a castle out of scrap - it's a kind of grotesque pastiche of the stately home, with its portraits in the hallways and oversized statues: someone would have made something like that, however garishly misplaced.

But I'm definitely getting a broad picture of everyone's tastes around here, and how they differ from my own. Broadly, my fantasy when playing Fallout 3 is of how you'd take something broken and then fix it - like Moira, I suppose. Almost everybody else has no such grand schemes - they just want to survive, and perhaps win.

I think that's a fair generalization. Just to further it, it took me a long long time to understand why anyone (girls) would want anything else in a game aside from winning. For instance, picture a movie scene in which the battle is over and only three of the original 12 good guys remain alive. The enemy is all dead. My only reaction as a young(er) boy was, "Woo hoo! They won!" and I expected and was gratified by subsequent scenes of the three survivors raising their guns in victory and later of them honoring their fallen comrades whose deaths brought about this great victory. No sadness, really, just pride, excitement.. I mean, we won! And that's the whole point.

I had some growing up to do before I began to understand some people's (girls') reactions of sadness, sympathy, distaste, etc., to the same scenes. To be fair, some of the girls I knew had some growing up to do before they could understand my reactions of pride and excitement. On the flip side, I sure was baffled by some of the games set up by the girls I knew in which there didn't seem to be a way to win, or in which getting too competitive was frowned upon. Took me a long time to catch on to the different kinds of competition that exist, too.

gothemasticator

I am MALE and I prefer houses/companions/dialogue, here.

THIS!, and the reason I answered that I was pretty evenly split between the 2 is that for me, it's all about OPTIONS! I have been playing so long that I have role played a ton of different ways. Sometimes I want to play the scavenger, harsh wasteland, eat radiated ant & rotten iguana bits to survuve type of role. You know, one where you have to barely scraqe by? Then other times, I like to play sort of middle of the road characters with decent digs. Then, other times I like to play as the wealthy leader of a squad of elite warriors who roam the wastes doing good deeds and ridding the world of evil! The great thing about this game and the host of exceptional mods out there, is that it truly can be so many things to so many different people.

If all I ever did was play as a scavenger type toon getting their azz kicked and barely surviving from day to day this game would have gone on my shelf a long time ago. When I do want to play that role, all I have to do is load up Arwen's incredible tweaks and away I go (or limp depending on how shot up I get!).

But if I want to play the warrior, I load up FWE, go and build my posse and head to Daggerhead Base! To me it's just all about what I'm feeling at the time. By the way, yes, I DO suffer from NCCS [New Character Creation Syndrome] I've probably created over 50 or more toons for this silly game, get them up to Level 20 or so, get bored and start all over again, lol. But even that is about options, right?

(Oh, BTW, Princess Stomper, did you ever get to check out my Chekov's Place mod and consider adding it to your fine list?)

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The problem with generalities is that they are so general.

I disagree that women are just like men. We just wish that they were. Do real men really worship Oprah?

Sure there are Rosie the Riveters, but there are plenty of foo-foo girls too. For my town mod I copied the male and female latrines from Megaton. The female bathroom is all clean, with a nice armoire and fresh flowers.The male latrine stayed about the same: filthy, but with added grafitti in the stalls and a porm mag on the floor. Like my Auntie used to say. "Men are happy as long as they hit SOMETHING." Make sure to leave the seat up boys.

I do agree that women don't deserve to be placed on a pedestal any more than men do. Women won't love you for the way you feel about them, but they might love you for the way you make them feel. If you want friends then be friendly.

Some guys grow up to be interior designers, but a lot of us were raised to be soldiers, so we get off on war, strategy and tactics and all the macho posturing that goes with war games. Not to say that there is anything wrong with women feeling the same. There are plenty of women in the military.

That bit about the three surviving warriors feeling only victory and gratitude to their fallen comrades for making it possible is pure hero movie crap though. There is nothing sadder than seeing the best friends that you ever had lying dead when you survived because of dumb luck.

Typically I view a game as being similar to how well it resembles the story of life. It doesn't end with everything being so simple as to honor ones comrades that had fallen nor did it ever seem that life ever was about the nesting nature of females. I think the best games are often the ones that are ideally liken to opening a book and finding oneself confused and ignorant of its content. Finding yourself as though you were on the same journey as those involved in the progression of said story. You have to be engaged and think about consequences of the actions occurring and when you react. Its based upon an emotional response from a view point whether or not you liked or disliked what took place.

I think in earnest the long term modders and users of said mods here are often those who are slightly different than the casual gamer to begin with. I also think that neither gender seems to make this crowd swing in favor of any gender biased nature. We would often see in traits of members of our respective genders.

All that being said my favored mods are the ones that give nudity. I mean....well...ok I AM a male after all XD
Although humor is intended, I really hate censorship. Plus tattooed under garments tick me off lol
I cannot honestly grasp the logic behind no nudity. But mass murder swearing and atrocity on a massive scale is far less on the scale of right and wrong than showing naked people. Very perplexing, yet I need no explanation. People are strange.

I voted, but the choices really didn't apply to me. To me, a mod with lots of combat and no good dialog is pretty useless.
I'm a male, over 20. The main mods I'm looking for are immersion mods, and while that covers a lot of territory, that's what I play. I enjoy Bethesda's games because, sure enough, they create a whole new world to live in, and anything that makes it feel more real is what I'm looking for.
One comment on comparing Fallout to Morrowind and Oblivion. I really think the difference in the number of mods people play is the game itself. I had dozens and dozens of mods in both Morrowind and Oblivion, but only a select few in Fallout. FWE, MMM, WMK, FOSE... that sort of thing. Just the bare basics, really.
Why? Well, the other two games really seemed to create a world in which you could play just about anyone. A thief. A powerful wizard. A knight in a castle. A trader. An explorer. It was a great sandbox and mods could take advantage of that and give everyone new things to enjoy. They could create new factions, new political intrigue, new villians, new monsters, and all could still coexist peacefully--or not so much--in the same world.
Fallout, on the other hand, really has you playing some variation of the same character... a survivor of the nuclear disaster. The politics of the world is a lot simpler... people just trying to survive. It's based on a somewhat realistic version of our own world, so the new creatures you can create are going to be a lot more limited.
I'm enjoying the heck out of the game, but it really feels a lot more narrow of an experience than the other two. The result is that mods just don't seem to be as useful, at least not to me. The world created by Fallout might need some expanding and fleshing out in spots, but the entire world is essentially there when you load up the game. I never had that feeling in Oblivion.

Male, 44, and I prefer realism/survival/balancing additions to my gamesas games.

A little background... The first modification I ever made to a computer game was when I modified SleepWhilstYouWork's Balmora House for Morrowind. I deleted the basemant portion, and rearranged the furniture to suit myself. It was the only house I ever used while playing Morrowind. When Oblivion hit the shelves, I had the CS up and running before the game. I made quite a few "tweak mods" before dipping my toes into the scripting waters, and things just mushroomed from there.

It took some coaxing from a friend (LadyDeadlock) to get me to try Fallout3. I'm a medieval re-enactor in real life... I get into the renaissance fares free by dressing in period garb. I collect swords, daggers, and dabble at leather working when I'm bored. Meaning? I didn't think I'd fall for this game like I did. Oblivion is still my all-time favorite game to date, but Fallout3 is a very close second.

Every mod I work on starts out as a concept that I personally desire to add to the game (except Vim & Vigor... which I rather adopted from Fritz-Fretz, who adopted it from Kearsage). I mod for myself, and release the stuff that I think other role players might enjoy. The stuff I release is an eclectic assortment. I don't really think I fit into any particular niche, like "house modder" or "texturer" or "scripter"....

If I want something added to my game, and it isn't already available, then I make it. If it turns out ok, I upload it to Nexus.



Me too! Did you get a chance to look at my Maintenance Shed? I uploaded version 1.3 in February. That is the final version. It's done... I know you said you were going to take a look at it, but I haven't heard back from you.

Isn't that sort of the point of Tenpenny Tower? A gross pastiche of architecture inhabited by a gross pastiche of humanity?

I am male, 34 years old, and I prefer mods which emphasize on the role playing elements like companions, dialogues, houses, etc.

Great post! . . . except for one little thing . . . I was an athlete in college (just last year, even though I'm wwwaaayyy beyond 20). For the two years while I was at my university, I was a member of a nationally ranked varsity sailing team. I had competed on the women's volleyball team at my junior college, but my sailing team was a coed team (with 30+ members, instead of just 7 girls) so it was quite different. But I do know from experience that female athletes are as competitive as any male athlete . . . and we LOVE to win just as much as any of the guys.

And the same is true for me with games . . . but I NEED them to be very challenging . . . because easy wins as not nearly as satisfying. A race where you have given your all, and end up bruised and totally exhausted, and cross the finish line just inches ahead of your competition is like the best high ever!

I only wish my nieces could be like that... Well I guess if you call me a rock they like to rock climb, gotta love turning into a jungle gym, but other then that they are pretty much your movie style girls.

:blush: I totally svck, right?

Truth be told, I've been playing Dragon Age, Mass Effect, Mass Effect 2 and Oblivion lately and haven't checked out any mods whatsoever for Fallout 3 - though i've downloaded a vast number. I'll get to them soon - I haven't forgotten.


Oh snap! Good point.


See, I don't get that. I guess I just don't have that in me. I'm not even that competitive when I'm watching sports. "Oh your team won? Oh, good for you!"

I'm a recreational player of just ... well, anything. I play to have fun rather than to win. I like co-operative team-based things. I don't do player-versus-player, only player-versus-environment, and I always play on Easy. I often have a nice glass of wine and some nibbles when I'm playing video games, and it's part of my evening wind-down routine after having a nice hot bath.

I suppose there's a vague element of competition in that I'll repeatedly play Bejewelled Blitz in an effort to match my friends' scores, but I rarely do and normally I'm content to give up when I'm just not lagging too far behind them, rather than actually trying to overtake them.

That's probably why I don't excel at either sports or video games, and why I have so little interest in balance/combat mods. I don't like to suffer, because suffering isn't fun. Bejewelled Blitz is about my level of competitiveness, and about as hard as I like to be taxed. Yes, there's a knack to it, and you can be good at it or svck at it, but ultimately it's just about relaxing and having a bit of fun.

Oh, I don't doubt your competitive spirit, Arwen! And I have some women basketball player friends whose canine teeth come out when they're on the court!

But still, women in a group tend to interact differently than men in a group. Watching from the outside you will definitely see more competitions in the sense of strength tests, more heirarchical formations among men than among women. What took me so long to learn was that the women are competing, too (the hunger for power is a human hunger after all, not just a male hunger), but that they compete differently - different methods and different goals. Women also form a power structure, but it is not nearly as heirarchical. Throw thirty guys together for a week, and they are likely to have created a ranking system with badges and medals. The women will have worked out who's on the top and who's on the bottom, but there probably won't be uniforms and official names to denote it. As a younger guy, I just had no idea what was going on.

I suspect that for both men and women, organized sports help to allow us all to compete and cooperate in a setting that has more rules and safety nets and less severe penalties than real life does. Losing is painful on the playing field, but not so bad as losing in friendship, or as losing the respect of someone you admire. And winning on the playin field, no matter how sweet is just never quite as sweet as real lasting friendship.

gothemasticator

EDIT: And by the way, voleyball is my favorite sport to play! I played soccer from the time I could walk until the end of high school, but that's about where my level of ability ran it's course. After that, though, I discovered voleyball, and I found a sport I can continue to compete in year after year. I just can't get enough, and the feeling of nailing a spike just right is something I wouldn't want to do without for very long.

gtm

Yeah, that sounds about right.

I played FO3 on Normal, I played Starcraft on "very slow" (it was definitely a shock, the one time I tried an online game and got squished in a Very Fast game before I even really had started my base. Heh.) Half Life 2? Started on Normal, switched over to Easy at some point. I've only tried Mass Effect on Hard once, and that was with New Game+. Dragon Age for PC? Played on Normal for the first half, dropping to Easy for tougher boss fights. By the end, I had it switched to Easy all the time. Getting squished six times in a row by the same fight just wasn't fun - it didn't encourage me to try a new strategy, it encouraged me to play some other game.

Different strokes for different folks, right?

Definetly, because personally i think that if a game doesn't piss me off atleast once, it's too easy