I read on the wiki that Bretons for the most part believe in the Nine Divines. But what happens when they die? Do they go to Sovengarde, or the Highrock version of an afterlife?

Probably the nine divines belief. I don't think (or know) if they have a special afterlife.

Where you go when you die depends entirely on what you were doing while you were alive. If you worshiped a Daedric Prince, you'll probably go to their realm for a while when you die. If you're a True Nord at heart and died with courage or in glorious battle, then you'll go to Sovngarde. If you worship the Nine or are otherwise unaffiliated, then you go to the Dreamsleeve and get recycled back into Mundus. And then, every once and a while, you get reincarnated, but that's rare and from what I can tell, vague in details.

What Vel said. Though, there is also a possible exception to the dreamsleeve bit. Saxhleel (argonians) possibly do not go to the Dreamsleeve, but rather, are soul recycled through the Hist. This also may explain why they view genders as "phases" as Saxhleel do not change genders, like certain frogs and such.

Breton's never truely die. They go to the realm of whatever Deadra or Aedra they were most connected with and then later thrown back to Mundus after several hundred years of postering, debating and political scheming till the divine entity of the realm can no longer deal with it, and thus the Breton is reborn on Mundus.

So does every other race, except the part about everyone having their memories wiped away before being reborn. And there isn't that many aedra binding, save for Shor through Sovngarde. Even then, those who fail to prove their worth to Tsun are also sent back to be soul recycled.

Which is interesting, since the quest-log describes Sovngarde as being in Aetherius, which is where the Ninest afterlife is supposed to be. Perhaps they're one and the same, only that orthodox Niners would experience it with a more classical aesthetic - Elysium, rather than Vahalla, in other-words.

Can somebody that "belive's that when he dies he turns into a Daedric prince" literaly when dies become a Daedric Prince?

If nothing or no one else believes it, or the godhead isn't tricked into making it reality...

No.

I hardly take anything being "Aetherius" as fact. Either Beth didn't bother looking it up, or they went "[censored] it! Aetherius is now Heaven"

Mantellan Crux? I can see Sovngarde being a little bubble-realm inside Aetherius.

That's Numidium. As for Sovngarde, it makes no sense that Shor would build a realm where a bunch of the original spirits fled, and try to keep out outsiders. Even Magnus banished his daughter, Meridia, from the Aetherius. Shor/Shezarr/Lorkhan would be the last person allowed in, due to creating Mundus, and because Shor is bound to Mundus, it only makes sense that Sovngarde, Shor's realm, would NOT be in the Aetherius.

Of course, Beth could have thrown that out, and went "Aetherius is now Heaven, yay!"

This is what I'm afraid of.

Why? At least people don't get erased and replaced by other random folks.

I'd rather have a cycle of "try harder" than "yay, you're going to your religion's Heaven!" Plus, the Dreamsleeve doesn't erase anyone, just your identity and memories....Hey, it's a "better luck next time" sort of deal.

Uh, that svcks. The essence of who you were and did is completely erased. The "Religion heaven" is good because they stay alive. With all memories of what they did in life.

How is that good? That's boring. If everyone just went to heaven for free then it would completely defeat the purpose of living in Mundus. Might as well just commit mass genocide/suicide so everyone is in heaven forever. It's so much more interesting and poetic and beautiful to have things be as they are now, with everyone needing to come together as one and know love and all that good stuff. Who cares about the essence of who you were and what you did and all your memories? You'll get all of those back, along with everything and everyone else, once everyone transcends. It's like taking $1,000 when you could have infinite money instead.

The only logical conclusion is that Sovengarde is a Deadric Plane... a Deadric Prince of Glorious Combat, War. Mmaaybbbee Ebonarm!

This whole "Yay, you get to go to heaven upon death!" is a problem because it removes the Altmer's plight, too. Because now it makes no [censored] sense if they get to go back for free.

Should we take quest logs as lore, though?

Edit: Removed pointless comment that had nothing to do with this thread.

*sigh*

Sovengarde belongs to Shor, whether or not it functions as a daedric realm is up for speculation. I really hope you are joking, because that would imply that you also believe that Shor=Ebonarm.

We'll people say Shor is Lorkhan and Wulfgard is Shor and Shezzarine, which would make Pelinel Whitestrike also Shor, and now people are saying CoC was shezzerine, so why can't Ebonarm be Shor too? seems like everyone is Shor.
And supposly Talos takes up Lorkhan's spot in heaven, so Tiber Septim is also Shor, as well as the battle mage and underkind, are all fragemented parts of Shor/Lorkhan and now Lorkhan is Talos and Talos is Lorkhan and Shor is Talos
who is 3 other people, that were once several other people before that... The whole thing sounds so over deluted like someone started writing it, got a little high and just spun out of control and ended up with a story about how their cousin's friend
married their uncle's neighbor and they had a kid who married the 2nd x wife of a distant cousin, who adopted someone elses 3 children who turned out to be their 3rd cousins on their half brothers side and then somehow they won the lottery and everyone wins.

Its so warped and twistsed to make as little sense as possible I don't see how almost any theory no matter how crazy it is could just be discarded. Who says Sovengarde belong's to Shor? I didn't see Shor there, I didn't see the presence of any divine or deadric entity.
It seemed to be rather lacking in leadership as Alduin was free to terrorize it at will without any opposition. Even in Shivering Isles the Seducers and Golden Saints or Flesh Atronaches would of responded to the intrusion, but in Sovengarde? nothing... Maybe the Nords just want to believe Sovengarde is Shor's realm, but it sure does seem to act a whole lot more like a Deadric Plane to me.

Though at this point, I am willing to accept that the Ebonarm cult was a built up around one of Pelinal's many personae. That man did get around. That being said, Sovngarde is Shor's realm, writ-large.

Also we must observe that in other races culture's.Clearly some god's that they worship are Deadric Princes/Divines in diferrent versions.Just like Alduin/Akatosh.This remember's me of Ala/Iavé(christian God)

Well, they do both have weapons-for-hands. Only Pelinal's is left and Ebonarm is right.

I thought it was erased and a new person took your place.