Bretons are half elf and half human? : V - Skyrim

» Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:03 pm

no they are humans that happen to have "some" elven genes in them. They are not or anywhere near "half".

» Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:22 am

The other thing to remember is that the Breton's are the dominant race in the western reaches (Hammerfall and High Rock) and in The Reaches of Skyrim. All Forsworn are Breton's and a good number of the folk in Markath, Dragon Bridge and Rorikstead as well, and most of them are are currently involved in a plot to break the reaches off into an independent kingdom.

I've been playing a Forsworn Breton in the game and it's a lot of fun. Her story is in the fan fiction section (Asavia's Tale).

The Breton's don't think of themselves as helf-elves, they consider themselves a race called Reachmen (or Forsworn in Skyrim), you'll hardly ever hear them use Breton when describing themselves.

The Breton's in Cyrodiil are more of a result of occasonal mixed race breedings, while the Reachmen Breton's are a closer knit group with a seperate culture and history spanning back thousands of years, to when they threw off the yoke of the Aldmeri Dominion.

They will likely be a major player in the fight against the Aldmeri Dominion this time as well.

you realize there is a huge difference between normal Bretons and forsworn, heck I doubt a Breton wouldnt think twice of killing a forswron. Why? Bceuase they are evil crazy buggers. They serve hagravens, worship daedra and old gods, thier leaders are basically undead and they practice un-willing human sacrafices.

» Sat Jun 09, 2012 2:29 pm

Isn't Arargorn from LOTR half-elf?

» Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:13 pm

Isn't Arargorn from LOTR half-elf?

...lmao? wut? You obviously know nothing of lotr xD
Aragorn was raised by Elrond, yes, but his real parents were human, his is a dunedain, a race of humans that are decedents of Numenor who were blessed with long life.

» Sat Jun 09, 2012 1:55 pm

They are? Cool fact...

» Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:40 am

Isn't Arargorn from LOTR half-elf?

No, he's a Dúnadan. That's a group of humans who were allied with elves in the distant past, and elvishness sort of rubbed on to them in some hand-wavey way. It's actually pretty damn rare for humans and elves to pair up on Middle-Earth, since this means that the elf permanently loses their immortality. I think there's only two or three examples of that happening in Tolkien's works. Beren and Luthien & Aragorn and Arwen come to mind.

» Sat Jun 09, 2012 2:17 pm

Here is an example of what half elf/human should look like.

http://www.kasuto.net/twilight_princess/official_art/tp_art_link03.jpg

http://images.wikia.com/zelda/images/a/ac/Princess_Zelda_Artwork_%28Twilight_Princess%29.png

im so glad you dont work for bethesda lmao

» Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:09 am

The elf blood in Breton's is something like nearly everyone in Oklahoma claiming they're part Cherokee. You'd never know it by looking at them.

» Sat Jun 09, 2012 1:24 am

No, he's a Dúnadan. That's a group of humans who were allied with elves in the distant past, and elvishness sort of rubbed on to them in some hand-wavey way. It's actually pretty damn rare for humans and elves to pair up on Middle-Earth, since this means that the elf permanently loses their immortality. I think there's only two or three examples of that happening in Tolkien's works. Beren and Luthien & Aragorn and Arwen come to mind.

The third you are looking for is Idril and Tuor, who were the parents of E?randil, who was the father of Elrond. E?rendil wife, Elwing, were herself quater human (grand child of Beren and Luthien), so their children Elrond and Elros were considered half elves. Elrond chose the life of an immortal elf, whereas Elros chose the life of a mortal man, and became the first king of Numenore. As the Dunadain are the survivors of Numenore, it is implied that Aragon is the distant decendent of Elros (I do not remember the family tree that well), and has some elven blood in him. Even if it has been "watered" down over many, many generations.

» Sat Jun 09, 2012 2:40 pm

They look exactly like Imperials now :/

» Sat Jun 09, 2012 8:44 am

Bretons and Imperials in Oblivion were visually identical. Their voice actor was the only way to tell their race, unless they specified.

In Skyrim, the Imperials got a noticable tan, which makes them look less like the Bretons. However, it can be hard at times to tell the now dark-skinned Imperials from the Redguards.

» Sat Jun 09, 2012 1:51 pm

The third you are looking for is Idril and Tuor, who were the parents of E?randil, who was the father of Elrond. E?rendil wife, Elwing, were herself quater human (grand child of Beren and Luthien), so their children Elrond and Elros were considered half elves. Elrond chose the life of an immortal elf, whereas Elros chose the life of a mortal man, and became the first king of Numenore. As the Dunadain are the survivors of Numenore, it is implied that Aragon is the distant decendent of Elros (I do not remember the family tree that well), and has some elven blood in him. Even if it has been "watered" down over many, many generations.

Ahh, true. Dúnedain as people are descendants of Numenoreans, so they didn't have elven blood, but their royal line had through Elros, like you said. So Aragorn himself had elven blood, though not enough to be considered "half-elven". Tolkien liked his family trees, so we actually do have Aragorn's http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Aragorn#Family_tree for reference.

» Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:51 pm

you realize there is a huge difference between normal Bretons and forsworn, heck I doubt a Breton wouldnt think twice of killing a forswron. Why? Bceuase they are evil crazy buggers. They serve hagravens, worship daedra and old gods, thier leaders are basically undead and they practice un-willing human sacrafices.

Nope before Ulfric Stormcloak, there was no such thing as Forsworn. Thats what became of many of the Reaches, Breton's, after the attoricties Ulfric inflicted on them at Markarth. There is a lot of books and information in the game about Reachmen and Forsworn, that indicate they are not quite what they appear on the surface.