First of all, anyone that has the sentence "Do you think that PC version of this game will more buttons or different actions than the console port?" in their post shouldn't be complaining about grammar. Secondly, I see no reason make a personal attack due to a difference in opinions. His age has nothing to do with the validity of either of your arguments, nor does your experience as a gamer.

To me it just seems like he was giving an extreme example where your argument falls apart, and I would say that his scenario of 'one button vs a whole keyboard' definitely disproves the simple argument that "controls have no impact on how competitive a game is." The fact that you missed such a common debate tactic (take your opponents argument to an obvious extreme and see if it holds water) shows to me that maybe you aren't as smart as you seem to think.

From experience, I would also agree that the PC is more competitive than consoles, and saying its due to controls seems like a good guess. To me, the mouse equalizes the playing field much better than anolog sticks. With the mouse, minute adjustments are easily possible, which means that the results of a shootout are a more accurate reflection of skill as a gamer, rather than skill with a controller. anolog sticks are inherently inaccurate - they have a deadzone in the middle, requiring you to move a measurable distance to make any input at all; don't always zero out properly, so you can be exactly sure where the center point you're pushing away from is; then add in the fact that eye-hand coordination is much easier than eye-thumb and it becomes obvious that the mouse is much more natural.

There are more sponsored gaming tournaments done for the PC than consoles, which should say something at the very least.

I am not one of those PC is better then everything people. I have consoles and i use them frequently. Yes, you are talking about this game in particular and if you understood anything i wrote, you should understand that i was talking about this game in particular too. PC versions of fps's allow for a greater degree of control in the game, as a result of the pc version being built around the use of a mouse and keyboard for input.

The reason for my post was to point out that you are at fault for claiming the medium used does not effect how competitive a game can or will be. Look at the extremes. look at medium with some of the lowest responsiveness imaginable and then look at medium with some of the highest responsiveness possible and its obvious that the medium will have an effect on how competitive a game can be. Yes, playing brink on the console would not have as negative an effect on the competitive level of the game, as playing on an even more rudimentary medium, but it would have a negative effect nonetheless.

i don't appreciate the personal attack on me about my grammer, the attack on people that fall under the category of "tweens", and claiming to know that I'm substantially younger then i actually am. My writing ability has served me well enough from elementary through college and while it may not be good enough for elitists, it was good enough for professors at prestigious universities. Also, i obviously don't put as much care into posts on random internet forums as a did on college papers...

If you feel the need to attack those that share different opinions from yours, I'm afraid these forums might not be for you.

This pretty much sums it up.

I play BO on the ps3 with a KDR of around 1, while I can play the same game on the pc with a KDR of 3. It's just an example though. I dislike KDR and it's just personal stats. There are people who have better KDR's on Consoles than on PC, but I they're not the majority. Also, to make sure no one starts hating me: I hate KDR and I'm glad Brink doesn't record KDR stats.

i also hate kdr... fps's should be about killing, not about surviving... imo someone that kills 8 people per min and dies twice per min is better then someone that kills 3 per min but dies once every 2 mins despite the latter having a higher kdr.

KDRs are a bit amusing at times, but I've never been one to change how I play just to have higher stats. In most games I have around a 2.0 rushing KDR. And by rushing i mean that i have no concern about dieing as long as I can take some people with me. KDR is definitely not the end-all stat that some people seem to think it is. I once heard it put like this - "KDR is like a bikini, what it shows is suggestive, what it hides is far more important"

I love console gaming :>

Go forth XBOX360 Gaming, that's what I'm gonna do

It's all about taste, some people like the keyboard and the mouse more than the controller. I think they've said you can freely customize your controls, so you can change [Fire/Shoot] to whatever you want on the controller, and the same on the keyboard. You are given more accuracy and speed on the keyboard and the mouse though, whatever floats your boat, keep doing it.

The way I see it is PC games are not as limited as their console counterparts, primarily in terms of moddable games, and Brink very well may be moddable, but also because of dedicated servers, controls, graphics, so on and so forth. Due to all the advantages PC offers, I'm basically not going to be buying anymore xbox games unless they are xbox exclusive, and this is coming from a person who was a purely console gamer until a few months ago.

since SD was/is mainly focused on pc-games, i do not see any reason why they would focus their new content on the xbox, in fact, i don't see any reason why SD would release content on any platform without releasing it on the others. they developed Brink on every console instead of porting and they also said they try to get Brink the same on every console, so why would they release any content on one platform and not the other?

Is'nt the Fallout Pack and the Doom Pack XBOX360/PS3 exclusive?

no, go to gamestop.com or bestbuy.com, you can pre-order the PC version just like you can at any of the other sites.

I don't know, but even if it is, pc players will have to pay less and get Ded servers, which is pretty important to me.

no, they aren't. as i said, SD has no reason, quite the opposite, to hand out extra content to a particular platform without giving the same to the others.
in fact no-one does, and still i see *insert console*-only games

I'm getting it for 360 for the sole reason that i have more friends on it (and thats not just people thst are on my friends list that i never talk to or randoms). If 9 times out of 10 you you can fill a whole team on that platform use that.

When I played MW2 on the PS3 for the first time, I had almost the same KDR as on PC (after playing for a few months), just because on console I have auto-aim.

Consoles allow high KDRs more easily, I believe, because of the many assists which are meant to counter the drawbacks of a gamepad. However, consoles are also for the casual gamer masses, which means there is a much lower overall skill than on the PC.

IMO, the platform you should purchase the game for is the platform the majority of your friends will be getting the game for.

/giggle


I'm not really going to get into the PC vs Console debate, but when you look at it from a factual standpoint, the PC version offers way more customization options via mods, better connection with dedicated servers, and more aiming precision with a mouse if you overcome the learning curve of aiming one. Consoles however, are usually cheaper than gaming computers, and don't have to deal with constantly updating their hardware specs. I personally am more comfortable with a controller, but that's only because I've been holding them for so long and am used to anolog sticks, I can't aim a mouse to save my life unless I'm playing something with an AOE weapon (*cough*, TF2 Soldier, *cough*). I want to get Brink for the PC, I'm just afraid I won't be able to kill anyone, maybe I'll be able to make up for my "handicap" by using shotguns or grenade launchers, or possibly body shots with a short rifle as well. However, with a modding community, we'll have a seemingly endless amount of player made maps in addition to the ones on the disk, so I doubt content will get old on the PC.

Eh, maybe I'll just get both versions when the price goes down, I was a god in Halo CE for the PC for some reason, maybe it had more aim assist.

I don't know why everyone thinks that PC has a more mature audience than Xbox Live. Honestly, no matter which one you buy it for there will always be immature people. When I play on PC I often get kicked for hacking when I'm kicking everyones butt. Although on Xbox Live, what often happens(or at least to me, anyways) is that everyone in the server just whines until the game is done or until they have more kills than you. Both systems have extremely immature people. :liplick:

Because there are more kids with a 360 than a gaming desktop. Yes, there are asses everywhere, and there are kids on the PC, but not as many.

That kind of makes it a little more embarrassing, since it means there's a greater chance that the immature player you come across is actually 20 or 30 years old. Anonymity does some truly terrible things to otherwise composed and polite people.

imo thats very elitist of you... when there's some annoying person on the server, i don't think hey, that bastard is immature. that would imply i am above them. I think, that bastard is annoying. thats why i can't stand g4tv, its full of elitism and is quite annoying. And no, i am not saying elitism is immature or wrong, only annoying to me; i don't pretend to understand what is compelling some annoying person on the internet to behave in a certain way and to be able to judge them, i simply know that they are being annoying and thats all i conclude.

Really, when it comes to annoying people, I just don't want to listen to them. I include kids on my list of annoying people because their voices usually make me mute them even faster than people who are trolling. Trolls can at least be amusing at times.

Er, Windows?



Yes, there are no poor quality, exclusive, games for the PC!

Console gaming is a mass market, PC gaming isn't. But at least the slow down of gaming technology means you don't have to upgrade your PC so often...

I don't get how people use keyboard n mouse as a one up for getting it on pc.

If u get on console every1 has a pad, you get on pc everyone has key n mouse. Neither has an advantage because you are all using the same!

Only up I see is the dedicated servers and sometimes mods... But if it gets like CS it's silly downloading a mod every server u join.

The controls are all the same, true. But individual ability with the controls are not the same. Its not hard to be bad with a controller, but i have never heard of someone who is bad with a mouse. Which means that players playing against each other with a keyboard/mouse will be able to test their skill in the game against each other, rather than skill with a controller.

Granted, there are people who are amazing with a mouse, able to just move it once and be on the pixel they want, but having people who are good with the interface and having people who are bad with it aren't the same.

I dunno, yeah people know how to use a mouse from
Everyday use but most fps console players have the skill with a pad too. Which means it just leaves it to skill in the game in my opinion.