On the console, i frequently find myself frustrated with the controller and its lack of precision. On the PC, lack of precision comes across as "I need to improve my aim" more than "I need to figure out how to use this controller better"

Some are truely funny. ([http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGe9nY5HC6s&hd=1]?[/url]) And apparently you can annoy a troll by trolling him.


Yeah, I'm so happy I didn't have the risk to accidently buy Uncharted or Uncharted 2, Killzone or Killzone 2 and be completely disappointed by the poor quality.

I think this is going to be a reoccurring problem on this forum. Every multi-platform game forum I participate in that doesn't separate the ports (360,ps3,pc) always ends up in a very boring pissing contest.

Back to the ORIGINAL QUESTION. I think it should be the one that your friends are buying the game on. I have a feeling this game will be a lot of fun with a bunch of buddies no matter what you play it on.

I actually like the more casual environment of the Xbox, I just don't want to pay for the console, or deal with the kids. But it IS more casual.

I will agree that you will have them most fun wherever your friends are.

with the dedicated servers on the pc, you can typically choose a server that is as competitive or casual as you want to be...

I fail to see the difference between calling someone immature and calling someone annoying when discussing griefers and people who seem to take video games much too seriously. The only difference is that immaturity does have the implication that they are acting like they are younger and less calm and collected than they should be for their age, whereas annoying could describe anything that happens to make you a little angry or irritated. Both are highly subjective, but when someone in their 20s-30s is playing online with others and typing/spouting random obscenities and racial slurs at others who are winning or actively playing against goals set by the game and other players because they find it hilarious, it's hard to call their activity anything but immature.

I sure as hell wouldn't say I'm above immaturity either, because I tend to get overly frustrated whenever I lose a gunfight more than once in a row, or sometimes even just once. I realize that for me to have gotten a spree/streak of any kind, I had to put others in the exact same spot I'm in, yet I still end up smacking the hell out of my controllers/desk or cursing at my TV/monitor in anger with the mic turned off every few games.

PC will :flamethrower: XBOX players
in pc's favor xbox makes me want to :banghead:

Sigh :shakehead:

Console wars aren't welcome here.


I just found out something that supports the claim that "xbox users tend to be younger."


It's likely that there are more high end outliers on the PC causing such a high number. A lot of the oldest gamers are using a work PC, and wouldn't pay for a console. At the same time, I would bet that the plethora of kids on Xbox dragged its age down.

Well advlts also tend to have jobs and money so they can afford good gaming rigs.

True; who cares about consoles anyway when a game releases on the PC?


And I think advlts want to spend good money on a gaming rig instead of a console, because they have grown up with the very first PC games.

Well, since I'm only 18 I don't consider myself an advlt (In my country 18 is the age of advlthood, don't know how it's in other countries) but I do prefer PC gaming over Console since I played on the PC for the most time. Its easier to make friends on the pc (on my opinion) while it's easier to play with real life friends on consoles.

I'm a multifunction gamer, i have so many old consoles and computers in my house if you can name a console/computer i've got one (or i am in the process of buying one). My friends lists for X360/PS3/PC mainly have the same people on them.

Do you have a commodore? how about an Atari Jaguar?

Yes and yes, trying to get a box for my Jaguar (mines a bit damaged)

To me I like PC gaming more than consoles. I don't own a console, but I've played on one before. Playing FPS on console is not as easy as it looks, especially on aiming. Maybe it's because on PC is draws you closer to the game; instead of sitting on the couch leaning forward, you're sitting in front of it, or it could be because of the earphones giving a better surround sound. But the problem in PC gaming is that consoles are always more powerful than PCs I heard, unless your PC has components like an Alienware which is expensive.

I thought this was interesting. In this interview with Paul Wedgwood this control vs topic came up and I think he had some interesting things to say.


GR: Shadowrun was a title that supported PC-Xbox 360 interplay, but the PC controls suffered heavily as a result.

PW: “That’s a whole different kind of design challenge, because if you’re on a mouse and keyboard, you have anologue aim, but on-off movement, and if you’re on a console controller, you have an advantage for your movement, because you can control the rate at which you move forward, from very slow to very fast, but you have slightly less control over how well you are aiming.”


http://gamerant.com/eurogamer-expo-2010-brink-interview-paul-wedgwood-phil-44870/

The movement-factor is a good argument, actually.
Might be a reason for why gaming on the PC is so much faster usually. Because you can't go slow.


Aiming on consoles is really just different.
On the PC, you usually move forward and aim with the mouse.
On consoles, you usually aim forward (and up/down) and aim through your movement (left/right).


That is, frankly, bullsh't.
The current "high-end" consoles (PS3 & XBox 360) are not even close to today's PCs. They don't have proper multicore-CPUs, they don't have very strong GPUs either and they don't have much RAM, too.

If you're programming a game for consoles, it's very easy to max out the hardware of each console, because it is always the exact same hardware-setup.
However, if you are programming for the PC, you have to create much more complex engines which allow almost infinite configurations of hardware to run the game.


Every game which is not console-exclusive ("exclusive"-deals are a punch into the gamer's face, imho) will look better on the PC, because even a low-end PC has about the same power as today's "high-end" consoles (but rarely anyone uses low-end systems for gaming, heh).
Consoles don't have Anti-Aliasing, consoles rarely use HDR (but Bloom, instead) and consoles aren't capable of high-res textures.

I agree with most of what you said, but it seems to me that the PS3 has a pretty good multicore CPU/GPU, all things considered. (Its kinda in-between the two as far as architecture goes) I remember a story a few years back where a scientist wired together 16 PS3s to model two black holes colliding. Its was something that he would've needed a super computer for, but was made possible by the Cell CPU. (16 PS3s are obviously cheaper than a supercomputer)

Everything you said is true except for the AA statement. Nearly all Xbox 360 games have at least 2x AA, and some even have 4x AA. I believe it has something to do with having a second smaller GPU which allows it to freely use lower levels of AA without further taxing the main GPU.

Either way, they need to make a new generation of consoles, and I hope they do it within the next 1-2 years. (though Sony already has plans to wait until 2014 before they release a PS4)

I've read about several experiments with big numbers of PS3s wired together to manage really complex calculations. However, this does require many PS3s for the multiple CPUs. One of them is still not too powerful.


Well, I don't own a XBox360 myself but on a friend's TV I always recognise the aliasing when we play GTA IV or Halo or PES.


2015-2020 until they come out; that's what I've read.

I don't think we need new generation on consoles - I think the whole PC and console thing is done to death. They should just concentrate on designing a system that plays games in general, not only console or only PC games, where you can use any control device you want, whether it be a m/kb, trackball, controller, joystick, etc. Kinda like what Onlive is doing, but with the ability to buy hard copies of games.

Very wishful thinking, but there's money to be made selling consoles, so there is always going to be more than one company trying to get into the market. And at the same time, the best way to sell those consoles is to have exclusive titles that people want to play. If you meant that some 3rd party company should make a new console that can play games from any platform, that would be breaking copyright laws. Every modern console has a BIOS file that is owned by the respective company, and you cant run the games without that file, but copying or mimicking it would be pirating.

Go where your friends are.

It's as simple as that.

Threads like these are just an excuse to get into a PC vs console argument, whether that was the intended purpose or not.

Who ever thinks PC communities are always mature should play WoW. Gibe Mi Monis PLz