http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2011/05/13/bethesda-releases-brink-lag-patch-promises-free-dlc.aspx

*Ahem*

Haha, funny. Smart move by Bethesda I suppose. Free DLC is always a great way to build a community if its at risk. This why at the very least I thought a 10 dollar DLC was a bad decision by EA (maybe not free, but 5 bucks).

Unfortunately, by reading the comments, at the end of the day people just want problems fixed. Seems like Brink isnt doing too well.

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2011/05/13/bethesda-releases-brink-lag-patch-promises-free-dlc.aspx

*Ahem*

I'm not surprised at all. Brink is ****. The need suing for releasing a game like that.

Boring
Repetitive
PS2 graphics
Shocking lag
Clunky Game play
SMART not so SMART
Retarded AI
No Replay value
Textures not loading
Totaly unfinshed & not enough effort put in to it.

The only good thing is the COOP & thats about it.

I played Crysis 2 MP tonight with my friend after not touching it in weeks, and I had a great time for the couple hours we played. We stayed in the same server, and latency in general seemed fine. I'm honestly starting to think problems come from bad connections.

I own this game on PC as well, and I get into servers with 20-60 ping, while everyone else has 56k pings. Picture for proof:

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/595809294230822685/2B15C4DD98E62248EEC3D5C2269CF8BC80B217DD/

The fact that this free DLC has been announced within a week of the games release suggests to me that it was a planned 'sweetener' for a game that they knew had problems.

I'm not surprised at all. Brink is ****. The need suing for releasing a game like that.

Boring
Repetitive
PS2 graphics
Shocking lag
Clunky Game play
SMART not so SMART
Retarded AI
No Replay value
Textures not loading
Totaly unfinshed & not enough effort put in to it.

The only good thing is the COOP & thats about it.

Sorry ChWigga, Have you played the game, I purchased it through steam and have been playing it since 5AM Friday.

I was going to get the 360 version but chickened out at the last minute, mostly due to negative reviews and incorrect feedback about the games lag and game play.

Because I'm playing on a PC, my ping is below 20, I can even create and host a custom game with my own rules.
Also the forums are now reporting a much more accurate picture of the 360 lag problem, I'm not going into it here, but there are a few solutions to it.

Everything you have posted here seems incorrect to me. I am not in anyway saying Brink is better than Crysis, in-fact they both so different you can’t compare either of them to other games.


Boring - Not at all, the maps and objective require coordinated team play.

Repetitive - Well the AI or other players will react to your decisions so unless your repetitive, No.

PS2 graphics - Not according to 360 reports on the forms, they seem happy, as for the PC - DX11 = stunning graphics I’m well pleased. Wish I had purchased Crysis2 for the PC also, but that day will come soon enough.

Shocking lag - Depends on how you set-up your connection and game type. However SD has acknowledged the lag on the 360 and they are working on the problem. PC = 20ping, 2 patches already for the PC, although I’m not sure if the consoles have been patched.

Clunky Game play - No seems fine to me, movement is not as fast, but just as smooth as Crysis2.

SMART not so SMART - Yea you can sometime run up walls, just think before you leap, it works fine, hoping more games adapt this fast moving style of game play, but nothing beats Crysis for sheer speed

Retarded AI - Just a computer program within a computer program, just a set of rules, true or false variables, what do you expect, breakfast in bed?

No Replay value - Well if you don't replay how do you know, I have played a few missions about 4 times how, each time differently.

Textures not loading - I'll give you this one, although I have never read any complaints about this, PC textures are well done. Take it from me.

Totaly unfinshed & not enough effort put in to it. - I think its well-done, well thought out and a credit to SD. I have been smiling all day and most of the night, I'm well pleased with Brink as I am with Crysis2.

Going to purchase C2 from steam and hopefully when BF3 arrives, it'll be just as good as Crysis and Brink

The difference here is, the people behind Brink use their common sense.

They know that charging for DLC when the game has problems (just like Crysis 2) will only divide the community and create negativity.

EA / Crytek - they say 'fu*k them' - we'll still ask them for more cash even though the game is nowhere near finished.

Well guess what Crytek - until you fix the lag and the multitude of problems I'm afraid I'll say the same to you and keep my money out of your greedy clutches.

The difference here is, the people behind Brink use their common sense.

They know that charging for DLC when the game has problems (just like Crysis 2) will only divide the community and create negativity.

EA / Crytek - they say 'fu*k them' - we'll still ask them for more cash even though the game is nowhere near finished.

Well guess what Crytek - until you fix the lag and the multitude of problems I'm afraid I'll say the same to you and keep my money out of your greedy clutches.

I'm not sure you are right about that, I don't know anything about this DLC from SD, but if it's free I would have thought it would have been arranged months ago. Remember they have in the past given a lot to the gaming community for free.

However with regards to DLC, you have a choice whether to purchase or not, I personally have stopped purchasing any sort of DLC.
I just don’t feel they are value for money, I also feel that if the game dev's want to keep people playing there games then DLC's should always be free to download, this is how they used to do it before someone thought it would be good to charge us for them.

Take BF2 for example; when BF2 was popular on the PC, they charged for DLC, what they also did was allow the fan base to create their own maps and modes using the BF2 engine.
Because of this we had games like POE2 and a couple of others, completely stand along products, good quality games free of charge. When we ran the DLC for BF2 on our severs, the maps were empty, no one liked them and the POE2 servers were always full and it was free.

Now with the consoles you can't configure which map rotations you want you just have to play whatever comes up, take COD for example, how often do you get to play the new maps, are they really worth it.

I strongly feel DLC should be free; I would rather purchase a new game than purchase DLC.

Sorry ChWigga, Have you played the game, I purchased it through steam and have been playing it since 5AM Friday.

I was going to get the 360 version but chickened out at the last minute, mostly due to negative reviews and incorrect feedback about the games lag and game play.

Because I'm playing on a PC, my ping is below 20, I can even create and host a custom game with my own rules.
Also the forums are now reporting a much more accurate picture of the 360 lag problem, I'm not going into it here, but there are a few solutions to it.

Everything you have posted here seems incorrect to me. I am not in anyway saying Brink is better than Crysis, in-fact they both so different you can’t compare either of them to other games.


Boring - Not at all, the maps and objective require coordinated team play.

Repetitive - Well the AI or other players will react to your decisions so unless your repetitive, No.

PS2 graphics - Not according to 360 reports on the forms, they seem happy, as for the PC - DX11 = stunning graphics I’m well pleased. Wish I had purchased Crysis2 for the PC also, but that day will come soon enough.

Shocking lag - Depends on how you set-up your connection and game type. However SD has acknowledged the lag on the 360 and they are working on the problem. PC = 20ping, 2 patches already for the PC, although I’m not sure if the consoles have been patched.

Clunky Game play - No seems fine to me, movement is not as fast, but just as smooth as Crysis2.

SMART not so SMART - Yea you can sometime run up walls, just think before you leap, it works fine, hoping more games adapt this fast moving style of game play, but nothing beats Crysis for sheer speed

Retarded AI - Just a computer program within a computer program, just a set of rules, true or false variables, what do you expect, breakfast in bed?

No Replay value - Well if you don't replay how do you know, I have played a few missions about 4 times how, each time differently.

Textures not loading - I'll give you this one, although I have never read any complaints about this, PC textures are well done. Take it from me.

Totaly unfinshed & not enough effort put in to it. - I think its well-done, well thought out and a credit to SD. I have been smiling all day and most of the night, I'm well pleased with Brink as I am with Crysis2.

Going to purchase C2 from steam and hopefully when BF3 arrives, it'll be just as good as Crysis and Brink

Yeh. I played the campaign 3 times on & offline. Its repetitive & boreing imo.

Get it for 360 & I bet your opinions change regarding graphics. I dont know what fanboy site yove been reading but trust me 360 graphics svck especially when you compare it to other games & I dont mean the cartoon look, I mean the crisp & quality of it.

To say you cant compare Brink to Crysis or any othe FPS is (sorry) but stupid. I dont know what it is that makes you think that. Nearly everthing thats been done in Brink has been ripped from a combination of other FPS games that came before it. Seeing as Brink came after these it svcks arse for 360 in all departments. I doubt any HC FPS will take this game serious.

The only thing Brink has going for it is Character customization & COOP even then the CC is not as good as they were making out. As for the AI comment. Is that really your excuse for a game released in 2011. I say no more.

These are just my opinions, but the majority of 360 users from what i've seen somewhat agree. I'm glad your enjoying & most people on PC & PS3 are until PSN comes back & they'll see the lag first hand. 360 users are not happy. I'm not happy with it & I knew I was getting it free so I aingt being biased. I know I would be pissed if I wasnt getting my $ back

That is the most rediculous thing that I have ever heard. Crysis is twice the game that Brink is and the development team is far superior. I have both games and like them for different reasons, but to say that anything about Brink is superior is to be downright deceitful or blind. Crysis wins my future funds and also, yes I will be buying the DLC next week. With the graphics that Brink offers, or lack therof, it should be free!!!!!


note - When I wrote this, It was supposed to have a previous comment from a Brink fanboy at the top. For some reason, it didn't come through. You get the point though.

Take BF2 for example; when BF2 was popular on the PC, they charged for DLC, what they also did was allow the fan base to create their own maps and modes using the BF2 engine.
.

This is the point, PC is not xbox. One the PC because so much user content is available free, and usually of a high standard, companies know they have no hope of selling anything that is not an must have expansion.

Not so with Consoles, we can mod our games to use PC content it seems, something I did a lot on my xbox 1, but I never had LIVE back then. Do it on a 360, even a single player game and it's Ban hammer time.

I mean look at Oblivion, Bethseda gave all their official content to players for free except for expansions, but Xbox users were charged for EXACTLY the same content.

I think this is why Bungie eventually gives away their HALO maps, like HALO3, for the simple fact that it and Reach have a map editor, that while limited can make entirely new and unique maps for free or modify existing
ones.

Kind of disappointing considering MS originally stated they were going to release tools to make xbox games as moddable as their PC counterparts so anyone could make stuff, and heck maybe even sell it Clothing in a Tony Hawks game was an example given at the time, something that never happened. All they did was make it so people can make arcade games they themselves can cash in on.

As usual it's the console owners that foot the bill

and it would good if PC gamers would acknowledge this. These days we keep the gaming industry going through forced payment. A game you might pay half price for or less after a month or so we could be stuck paying full price for almost a year or 2. Because companies know, due to how easily their games and addons are pirated PC gamers would just laugh at them and hit the nearest warez site. An illegal luxury gamers don't have, well they do, but only if they don't want to keep things like their xbox live connections.

What really surprises me about this is EA and Crytek seem to be going to charge PC users, I expected the usual "PC users free DLC, Console gamers pay" but I won't be surprised if after a month they do, do that.

All I know as a business owner, is that if my services were not up to scratch, I didn't produce the product as stated that the client was paying for, I would have to answer for it. But as a business man I'd be doing my utmost to make the customer happy and either offer a refund, or be giving them freebies to smooth things over.

I for one think it's damn cheeky crytek are even considering offering us paid DLC so close to release of the game, when it has been made extremely clear many have had so many major problems what ever the price.
I'd think they'd want to get their reputation as well as gamers back. If they patched the game, released these new "straight from the SP game you already own" maps for free and apologised. I for one would be more inclined to buy any future content they'd want to released later, including future games.

As it stands, I am of the mind I will never buy another Crytek game or product, nor Recommend them to anyone I know unless the game at least is fixed for everyone who parted with $60USD or $90AUD for this game.

Seriously I have never brought or played such a broken game in 30 years of gaming. I've played and brought plenty of bad ones sure, but they at least played as intended.

If they'd at least make a statement, like "hey we are working on a mega patch" but give us a month or 2, it wouldn't be so bad. But unlike their competition, we get virtually no interaction from them.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but the point that Devilz Kingpin was making is that after only a few days Bethesda have announced a free DLC and the reasons why it will be free. Now if Bethasda can do it for free, why can’t Crytek.

http://bethblog.com/index.php/2011/05/13/brink-updates-now-live-free-dlc/

And I quote;

We would like to thank you for supporting Brink and for your continued feedback. To show our appreciation for your support of Brink, we will be making the first DLC for Brink available for free when it is released. This DLC is planned for June and will offer additional maps and new content for players. We’ll continue to provide announcements about the next title update, as well as the first DLC release as that information becomes available.
- Splash Damage & Bethesda

@ ChWigga, please understand this is not personal and is not meant as an insult but I have to be honest with you. You have been all over this forum since you purchased Crysis 2, complaining about the Lag and other problems.

You have called out Cry-Adam and Crytek several times demanding that they fix the problems at your convenience, I believe in some threads you stated that they had till Brink comes out or you’ll trade it for Brink, “ If I am incorrect about this statement then I apologise” there has been so much of that all over this forum it’s hard to keep track of who is who.

Now if I understand this correctly, you have in-fact traded in Crysis2 for Brink, you actually spoke with Gamestation and they told you that Brink was a broken game, but still you traded in Crysis for Brink, then you take back Brink within 24 hour and purchased Crysis2 again.

Then you come back here, posting all over this forum how bad you think Brink is, is this the same Brink you played, because I honestly can’t see what’s so bad about the graphic’s….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4OFOYrbsiE&feature=related

I have seen one texture-loading problem, which was slow to load, but it seemed to just lag at that point, it is laggy, but then is it the game or is it the Xbox connection.

And at the end of the day SD have apologised and very clearly stated that they are working on it. By way of a thank you, they will give their first DLC free.

Brink is defiantly a fun game and completely different to other FPS at the moment. If you are reading this and thinking about purchasing Brink, I would suggest that you read all of the Brink forums before making your mind up not to try it.

Am I a Brink fanboy, no not at all, I tell it like it is. ChWigga, sorry I think your mind was already made up about Brink before you played it.

@ Doomed Marine, I have been gaming since the Amiga 500 days, started online gaming with a 56Kb modem playing Q3A. Talk about lag, lol.

I agree with you a 100% about how the Console user is and has been getting ripped off, not just the cost of games, but the very fact that they have to pay for little extra’s.

Avatar clothing, DLC when most DLC is produced along with the game itself at no extra cost to the developers, they are just creating another market to exploit the console gamers with. If people do not feel they should pay for DLC, then the first step is to say no and don’t purchase it.

Personally when my Xbox live ends I think I’m going to switch back to the PC, I think the Xbox is too old to play decent modern games on. If they ever produce a better machine and the games move to dedicated servers, then I’ll consider the Xbox again. But I won’t be purchasing DLC,