They have said they won't. What's the point of a preorder than anyone can get later?

Oh they actually said they won't? Well then that clears that up. I should really stop drinking lol.

Everything in moderation Napalm. :foodndrink:

Actually they've said they "currently have no plans to do so."

I'm guessing they might do so much later down the track, and even though I'm getting all I want in the pre-order bonuses (Spec Ops. The rest I'm not so fussed about), I'll be happier if they do. But 6 month minimum before they do, and there has to be at least a token price on the extras. And they can't have a full package deal with all of them, because that would mean the pre-order people have to pay again for the bonuses we already got, just to get the ones we didn't..

actually, what they said was "there are no plans for that - the only way to get the pre-order packs is by pre-ordering the game" which is slightly more binding than you suggest. The second part, that many people seem to ignore, puts it pretty clearly.

im not sure what u mean since i had no problem using a pistol in any of the cods (havnt played blackops). it was good as a secondary weapon since it had the fastest equip speed and most of them had reasonable fire power (the magnum was a bit over powered imo). i hope brink is the same and keep pistols as good useable weapons aswell tho.

"The only way to get the pre-order packs is by pre-ordering the game"

Note the present-tense. IS means right now that's the case, not that it will always be the case.

It IMPLIES a binding restriction, without actually providing one. They'll be free to release them later, and as I said, I hope they DO. If it turns out to happen, I probably won't be buying any of them in a hurry, but more people will be happy than will be offended by the decision. Most people these days expect pre-order exclusives to be timed these days. Especially when they include gameplay-influencing extras like guns and items with unique stats, as opposed to purely cosmetic extras.

Silencers will drastically reduce the effective range.

On the subject of pre-orders vs later game content, I have absolutely no problem with reskins and unique appearance items, but having additional weapons unique to only half the pre-order bonus packs is questionable and having unique attachments is a little curious as well. I'm not so worried about the soda silencer, but if the green-eye scope functions differently than any scope in the game (i.e. nightsight, thermal) then that's a bit of a problem with balancing as well.

But both weapons and attachments (unlike skins) go to balancing, where the obvious response is "they're not better, they're just different", but the whole point of trying to make a fair and balanced game would be to give everybody the same tools and let them choose.

IMO I think MW2 pistols are better than Black Cops(yes that's on purpose) pistols.

Pistols were actually very useful in COD4, COD WaW, and COD Black Ops. Switching to your pistol was always faster than reloading, so they could save your life in a firefight.

Imma gonna use teh Sea Eagle.

go pew pew on youz in yo base killin' yo d00dz

Ahh so bored lately, I just stare at the wall with images of brink. :cryvaultboy: <-- How i look while staring.

If you have lighter weapons does it make a difference to your speed?

I had a SMG as a medium + a pistol. Would that be faster than a medium with an AR and a pistol? Or is it just the switching speeds?


Also i wiped the floor with pistols in CoD, i just don't know why some Sights were mis-aligned. it always bugged me.

Only body type affects speed, as far as I've heard anyway

And this is correct.

Kay! Thanks

I guess i'll have an AR and a Light rifle..

Or an Light Rifle and SMG..

I need to think of this.. or test it on the 13th of May!

Cheers.

Thats not really a "Good" Thing.

Pistols should have more power than an airsoft gun if you ask me, sick of pistols being pathetic backup/desperation weapons

Gotta have a good sidearm, its gonna be my only silenced weapon. Good job I'm getting the spec-ops pack

Pistols don't look all that effective in the gameplay vids. That'll probably get fixed at some point.

They look highly usable but with low damage... from what I can see...

Anyway, I also hope they're a really viable option as pistols are generally a lot of fun to use.

imo, pistols should be underpowered. The weapons that heavies have should be better than light weapons. The pistol shouldnt be able to compete with a minigun, it just doesnt make sense. Weapons should only be balanced within the category that they're in.

You can't really expect pistols to be as effective as AR, SMG's ect do you? This is one of the downsides to playing as a light you have weapons what do less dmg or are less effective then those of medium or heavies options. If they were as effectives as an SMG that would defeat the point of using an SMG.

100% agree :foodndrink:

I don't think anybody should run around with a pistol expecting to annihilate a army of Rebs. For CoD I just used the pistol for running and quickly finishing off an opponent after either running out of ammo or stupid last stand was initiated.

Looking at videos, it seems like you'll find your fair share of dudes lying on the ground waiting to be executed, then it seems appropriate. All in all I don't think you'll be running around with your "dirty harry" expecting to do more than injure someone.

More importantly, will there be dual wielding? Then I give permission to someone melting my face off with a couple pistols.

No dual wielding.

The advantage of weapons like SMGs and Mini guns have over pistols is the number of bullets they fire and the speed they fire them. Pistols have way less ammo and fire at much slower speeds, requiring more consistant accuracy to finish someone, that's their drawback. It isn't about one weapon being better than another, if that was the case there would be no reason to have the lesser weapons. It's about certain weapons fitting certain situations and styles better.