Hi,
Yeah,I bought the BO game,my fault I know.
But after 3 weeks i'm done with it.
First of all its a console port and very poor optimized for pc,apparently people with heavy quad cores(I5-I7) are the only ones who can play without much stutter/freezes.
Second its bugged like hell and there is absolutly no support from the devs untill now.
MP is bugged,leaderboards ,stats, points,xp are randomly resetting.
I'm now in the position where I cant buy guns,cant create classes,cant change anything and stuck with two(2) weapons an after reaching Prestige 1 lvl 30 thrown back to lvl 1
They made one little patch which made things worse in most cases.
It comes to this:
Will Brink be fully supported,or are the devs/communitymanagers playing/bragging on xbox too while pc is unplayable?
Will it be a console port?
I have always played the games from SD,like Q3F,Enemy Territory,ETQW,they were pc only though.
So,SD do you still care enough about the PC gamers to make it a good/playable game on pc too?
Greetz Darrin

Well SD has only made PC games thus far right? Or at least their most popular games are PC, so I think it's safe to say that Brink won't be a console port, though there is always uncertainty. Plus, to me Brink looks to have much smoother controls and is less of a twitch-reaction game compared cod, so I don't think a console to pc or vice versa port will have a huge effect on controls.

Also, the game is being published by bethesda which is a pretty reputable company that wouldn't take a risk publishing for a svcky company, so the guys over at SD probably know what they're doing and care about the game itself.

There are no ports with Brink all of the consoles are being made independently of one another. Supposedly what SD leads us to believe also is that these delays on the release date is so they can find bugs in the game and make it what they call "Perfect."

God (Or any other deity :hehe: ) bless SD for wanting to make a game that actually comes out of the gate with no bugs. Unlike some developers out there.

yet theyd publish a game totally full of bugs (fallout new vegas)

always the same, alsways fallout 3 or new vegas...
it's a free roam with a whole damn lot of dialogue, it is to be expected... it's a whole damn lot harder than a game where the dialogues are scripted in scenes you know. not to mention free roam always has a lot of issues, the bigger the map, the more issues

SD still support Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory and Enemy Territory: Quake Wars, and W:ET is 7 years old at this point. So they definitely have long term support. SD is more than willing to patch their games when necessary, but they are one of the few companies left that tries to release a game that doesn't require any.

And like Nikto says, sandbox games are infinitely more difficult to debug than linear games. But SD is taking an amount of time to debug and balance Brink that is comparable to a normal sandbox game.

The game engine has been heavily modified and optimized for all 3 platforms, and none of them are a port. So there are no issues from that, either.

i know that but some of the issues could be noticed from 1 playthrough and fixed before they released the game they say it had bugs because it was big yet fallout 3 was much bigger and had less or the same amount of bugs i think they just didnt test it in a rush to release it as fast as possible whether that was the publisher or the developers fault i dont know

Exactly.




Publishing is not the same is creating the game. I trust SD in this regard.


Indeed.

Can I haz ur Blops-copy nao?

You can have the copy,yes :wink_smile:

i dont really like the fact that all new FPS are compared with CoD, i dont see CoD as a GOOD example of an FPS, i use it as a BAD example...i dont want BRINK to be anything like CoD! I'm hoping its more like Battlefield with the TEAM WORK, rather than CoD lone wolf rubbish!

i think if you wanna compare games, you have to compare them to the good ones but then i guess comparing it to the bad ones makes it look better ;) though BRINK doesnt need any game to look good, it looked good from the first picture and video i saw! now i wait like a little boy on christmas eve for BRINK to come out >.<

Comparisons are made to communicate ideas. Comparing to CoD is easy because people know it. You could be pointing out a similarity or illustrating a difference, but that doesnt mean that you think that the games are comparable on a whole. I would have no problem comparing Brink to an orange if it got my point across.

Indeed, we all know Brink >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cod. But, as Shadowcat says: It's easy to compare certain game mechanics because everyone knows cod.

In fact, if you cared to read the OP, you would notice that Darrin is in fact using it as an example of things done wrong, like you said. He was listing the things that are wrong with that game and hoping that Brink didn't repeat those mistakes.

May I add that Steam appears offline for several hours now?
Which means you cant play ANY game you bought/registered there. :brokencomputer:

Seems to be a personal issue, working fine for me, and I can see that other people on my friends list are playing as well.

Look here:
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1621829
I am not the only one.

Ah, my bad. I'll agree that its bad design to require server permission to play games offline. For multiplayer games, server problems will come up once in a while no matter who runs it.

I imagine that its that way to try and hinder pirated games, but people will always figure out a way to crack programs no matter what is done about it. Software security should never go so far as to be a hindrance to honest users. In this case, you have a situation where pirated versions of the game can play without a connection but legal versions can't get on at all.

Even from just a business standpoint, being unable to play your game is far more likely to turn an honest customer into a pirate than high security turning a pirate into a customer.

In my opinion COD is a cult game. It's good, but nothing special.
Brink in contrast is a brand new game style. (revolution beginns...)

Because of that, my request to SD is also:
"...please care enough about the PC gamers to make it a good/playable game on pc..."

Seems to me that the line ?evolution begins actually has a double meaning. They show "Evolution Begins" because they are trying to evolve the genre, and then they add the ? to make it "Revolution", a statement about the storyline.

I see no reason why they should focus on making the PC better, they are putting everything they have into making the game epic on all platforms. SD's never had an issue with them deciding "good enough is" with their other games, and releasing the game.

I'd love to actually try it, but I guess you weren't serious. :/


I've gotta say, I don't think the CoD-Series has a bad multiplayer. The singleplayer varies from terrible to acceptable, but rarely has any rememberable or remarkable moments in particular.

Anyhoo ... the multiplayer: I don't think it's bad. It's not really innovative throughout the series, but it also never is really bad. I know, I know, you'll just scream "MODERN WARFARE TWOOOOO!!!" in my face now, and you're partly right. The MW2-multiplayer was a real letdown and had some terrible flaws. But from what I've seen in gameplay-/commentary-videos on Youtube so far, it seems that Blops managed to remove these flaws and make CoD's multiplayer quite qualitative again.

Compared to Counterstrike: Source, for example, I see it as a major improvement which no other game really managed to pull off.

I didn't mind cod2! Loved it. 3 was weird, then after that it was glitchy out of sync hit detection stuff. N that horrible knife lunge :/ Ouchie!

COD zero innovation, Brink lots of innovation. thats all you need to know

I guess the best thing I can say is this: Welcome to the CoD refugee camp. The forums here are full of people that are tired of the way FPS games are today, myself included. In general I hate shooters with a passion, but I am starting to love Brink. If that doesn't intrigue you, then just know that Brink does away with all the noob-stuff in CoD/CSS like bunnyhopping, tubing, camping...you get it. So like I said, welcome to the CoD/FPS refugee camp, doughnuts are in the back.

Well,you would have to buy my entire Steam account to do that,once you registered a game on Steam the key is worthless.
But the're games on it which I still like ,HL2 is one of them.

And MAYBE the promised patch for BO will be good enough to keep me busy untill Brink is released.