Brink Weapon Derivitives

Post » Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:36 pm

Found the in-game name of the SR-93, its the "Barrett"

Interesting that both of the short rifles have names that don't quite match the weapons they are based off of.
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Post » Mon Jun 21, 2010 7:35 am

The Maximus/ChainSAW is made by Knight's Armament Company, who's rival for military contracts is FN Herstal. FN Herstal was able to get the next LMG contract with the US Military with the "Minimi"

I am still trying to find the reference with Rhett and the Sig 551 SWAT.
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Post » Mon Jun 21, 2010 9:02 am

The Maximus/ChainSAW is made by Knight's Armament Company, who's rival for military contracts is FN Herstal. FN Herstal was able to get the next LMG contract with the US Military with the "Minimi"

I am still trying to find the reference with Rhett and the Sig 551 SWAT.

I was thinking something along the same lines with the Minimi, but had no idea that FN and KAC were rivals, nice work.

I'll start brainstorming with you about the Rhett as well.

Why not call it the Seagull?

Its clearly a pun on the world famous Desert Eagle, just changing the climate to one that makes more sense to the story. I assume they liked the pun but decided not to put in a DE look-a-like because its just too common in video games. Mainstream guns are a bit of a minority in this game, SD instead chose many slightly-obscure guns.
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Post » Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:20 pm

I was thinking something along the same lines with the Minimi, but had no idea that FN and KAC were rivals, nice work.

I'll start brainstorming with you about the Rhett as well.


Its clearly a pun on the world famous Desert Eagle, just changing the climate to one that makes more sense to the story. I assume they liked the pun but decided not to put in a DE look-a-like because its just too common in video games. Mainstream guns are a bit of a minority in this game, SD instead chose many slightly-obscure guns.


yeah it will help, the only thing i can think of for the rhett is the fact Rhett is the name of Clark Gable's character in Gone With The Wind, who was somewhat the rich guy, and Sig Sauer is a Gun manufacturer/Firm (only way they could make firearms in their country was to have a foreign firm help).

that is spot on about the Desert Eagle, KAC and FNH have been rivals due to the contracts, KAC produces the Picatinny rails and other parts while FNH make the M16s, M249/minimi, and the M2 Browning.
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Post » Mon Jun 21, 2010 4:24 am

Lol.

But then comes the problem of cash... as an unemployed student, a few grand is a little steep. Maybe some day though. :thumbsup:


where there is a will there is a way, you could always order the parts and build one, or you could always look to see if they have used firearms for sale in your country.

the 2 grand is a rough estimate, you could get a standard for 1500 give or take the type of stock, type of barrel, length of the barrel, and sights. i would suggest if you can't afford the real thing you could get the Gas Blow Back airsoft version just to have something similar: http://www.airsplat.com/Items/GR-WE-M14-KIT.htm for the latest military version or the basic: http://www.airsplat.com/Items/GR-WE-M14-WOOD.htm for half and a quarter of the real price respectively.
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Post » Sun Jun 20, 2010 9:12 pm

Found the in-game name of the SR-93, its the "Barrett"

Interesting that both of the short rifles have names that don't quite match the weapons they are based off of.

Well, it's easy to identify the Dragunov, and even more so for the Barrett. I thought SD was going to do some clever different spelling for the Barrett (like Colt/Kolt or Dragunov/Drognav) or maybe a cool reference (Caesar vs. Rex, Galactic vs. Universal) though.

The Maximus/ChainSAW is made by Knight's Armament Company, who's rival for military contracts is FN Herstal. FN Herstal was able to get the next LMG contract with the US Military with the "Minimi"

I don't mean to be rude, but may I ask how this helps explain the correlation between the names Maximus and ChainSAW?
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Post » Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:04 am

I don't mean to be rude, but may I ask how this helps explain the correlation between the names Maximus and ChainSAW?


ChainSaw is the name for KAC's LMG, Maximus is the reference to FNH's minimi which is the 249 in the game, Maximus and Mini me, one is a HMG the other is a LMG.

Maximus isn't referencing the ChainSAW itself but the interaction between KAC and FNH.
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Post » Mon Jun 21, 2010 7:58 am

ChainSaw is the name for KAC's LMG, Maximus is the reference to FNH's minimi which is the 249 in the game, Maximus and Mini me, one is a HMG the other is a LMG.

Maximus isn't referencing the ChainSAW itself but the interaction between KAC and FNH.

So the Maximus is simply playing at the Minimi's name?

If so, I guess the same will be done for the M249.
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Post » Mon Jun 21, 2010 8:11 am

Mainstream guns are a bit of a minority in this game, SD instead chose many slightly-obscure guns.

I find it kinda odd they did not chose the XM8, btw.
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Post » Mon Jun 21, 2010 7:05 am

I find it kinda odd they did not chose the XM8, btw.

The XM8 is a pretty recent gun--it's about 9 years old.

The M1014, on the other hand, is kind of a staple in newer games, so I guess its presence in BRINK would make sense.
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Post » Mon Jun 21, 2010 8:17 am

Maximus is probably a reference to the http://www.justguns.com/automatic-support-weapons/maxim-gun.html, the first real machine gun.


The only possible thing I have for Rhett is kind of a stretch. If it's a smaller or less powerful version of the Rocksteadi, which is based on the SCAR-Heavy, then it would be equal to a SCAR-Light. SCAR-Light = Scarlet. Scarlet O'hara was married to Rhett Butler from gone with the wind, the only Rhett I can think of.
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Post » Mon Jun 21, 2010 7:06 am

I find it kinda odd they did not chose the XM8, btw.

Isn't the Xm8 just a prototype/test weapon? Has it even seen service?

Besides that, a reason I can think for not putting the XM8 in Brink, is that it's design doesn't match the look of the game. All the weapons in Brink, have a "manly" appearance to them. Even the pistols look like "meat and potatoes" guns. The XM8 has a more streamlined, futuristic design, that (to me at least) conflicts with every other gun.
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Post » Mon Jun 21, 2010 7:11 am

Isn't the Xm8 just a prototype/test weapon? Has it even seen service?

Besides that, a reason I can think for not putting the XM8 in Brink, is that it's design doesn't match the look of the game. All the weapons in Brink, have a "manly" appearance to them. Even the pistols look like "meat and potatoes" guns. The XM8 has a more streamlined, futuristic design, that (to me at least) conflicts with every other gun.

The XM8 was not favored over the Barrett REC7.

Your observation over the "manliness" of the guns would make sense.
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Post » Mon Jun 21, 2010 3:52 am

Maximus is probably a reference to the http://www.justguns.com/automatic-support-weapons/maxim-gun.html, the first real machine gun.


The only possible thing I have for Rhett is kind of a stretch. If it's a smaller or less powerful version of the Rocksteadi, which is based on the SCAR-Heavy, then it would be equal to a SCAR-Light. SCAR-Light = Scarlet. Scarlet O'hara was married to Rhett Butler from gone with the wind, the only Rhett I can think of.


the Rhett is a sig sauer 551 commando, Maximus is referencing the name of the FNH Minimi (the M249SAW) not the maxim gun. i made a reference to Gone with the Wind earlier but still not a clear reason to name it Rhett.

XM8 is not been cleared for service for any country, H&K ended up dropping the usage of it with the M416 and M417, they tried to win the bid for the USSOCOM contract but the FNH SCAR was chosen. i am surprised that they didn't add a AK-47/AK-104 weapon, which should be almost as powerful as the SCAR but less range due to the 7.62x39 doesn't have the range of the 7.62x51 SCAR.
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Post » Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:46 am

the Rhett is a sig sauer 551 commando, Maximus is referencing the name of the FNH Minimi (the M249SAW) not the maxim gun. i made a reference to Gone with the Wind earlier but still not a clear reason to name it Rhett.



I don't see what the FNH M249 has to do with the Maximus/ChainSAW though. Both have SAW but that's just a general term. Plus the Chainsaw is just a modded Stoner LMG which is smaller and lighter than the Minimi, so it wouldn't make sense calling it Maximus in regards to that gun. The Maxim reference seems similar to the Gerund / M1 Garand connection.
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Post » Mon Jun 21, 2010 9:52 am

I don't see what the FNH M249 has to do with the Maximus/ChainSAW though. Both have SAW but that's just a general term.

Dark Prophit noticed a connection earlier. The full name of the M249 is the FN Herstal Minimi. Naming the ChainSAW the Maximus would be a play on the Minimi, because the name Maximus would make it the Minimi's polar opposite in terms of size. In addition, they are both of different classifications (the Maximus is a heavy machine gun, the Minimi is designed to be a squad machine gun).
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Post » Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:30 am

Dark Prophit noticed a connection earlier. The full name of the M249 is the FN Herstal Minimi. Naming the ChainSAW the Maximus would be a play on the Minimi, because the name Maximus would make it the Minimi's polar opposite in terms of size. In addition, they are both of different classifications (the Maximus is a heavy machine gun, the Minimi is designed to be a squad machine gun).


His connection was they're competitors. Every gun manufacturer is a competitor. KAC wasn't considered in the contract that FNH got for the Minimi. And as I said the ChainSAW is smaller and lighter than the Minimi, not bigger.

But he may be right.
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Post » Mon Jun 21, 2010 4:18 am

Its called the Maximus because it puts a hell of a lot of bullets down range. Being bigger than the "Minimi" is more than enough of a play on words for me. I mean look at the Rokstedi, not all of the names have as deep of a meaning.

but, yes, you're right, the Stoner LMG that the ChainSAW is modified from is a lighter LMG than the m249. But in a game, I think you can expect the gun with the chainsaw grip to be better at just spraying a lot of bullets.
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Post » Mon Jun 21, 2010 5:14 am

I'm recently having second thoughts about the XM1014 as being the only influence on the Mossington. For one thing, the XM1014 is a semi-auto while the Mossington is a pump action. So the charging handle necessary on a semi-auto is gone.

The grip on the Mossington seems to be from the Remington 870, and the receiver seems to be 2 pieces with a hinge in front of the trigger. So it seems like the receiver is based off of some pump action that can break down the middle for some reason. (Like the REX revolver does)

Anyone have any ideas?
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Post » Sun Jun 20, 2010 11:37 pm

Only two revolvers? One being a pre-order only? :(
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Post » Mon Jun 21, 2010 7:48 am

Revolvers only have one advantage over semi autos, and that is their ability to handle larger rounds. So in a video game, their main use is going to be a big, powerful, accurate, but slow gun. You really only need one gun to handle that role.

The other big advantage in real life is their durability, reliability, and no need of maintenance; but until you show me a game where you have to oil your guns, keep an eye on the springs, or deal with misfires, this has no in-game translation.
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Post » Mon Jun 21, 2010 8:23 am

Revolvers only have one advantage over semi autos, and that is their ability to handle larger rounds. So in a video game, their main use is going to be a big, powerful, accurate, but slow gun. You really only need one gun to handle that role.

The other big advantage in real life is their durability, reliability, and no need of maintenance; but until you show me a game where you have to oil your guns, keep an eye on the springs, or deal with misfires, this has no in-game translation.


Right, I understand your points. But there are already so many SMG's and AR's in the game with varying degrees of separation that I think they'd throw some variety in for all the weapon classes.

But it's true that I am biased. Revolvers have always been my favorite weapons in video games (never fired a gun in real life), so I love to see new iterations of them.
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Post » Mon Jun 21, 2010 5:01 am

Right, I understand your points. But there are already so many SMG's and AR's in the game with varying degrees of separation that I think they'd throw some variety in for all the weapon classes.

But it's true that I am biased. Revolvers have always been my favorite weapons in video games (never fired a gun in real life), so I love to see new iterations of them.

The difference with SMGs an ARs is that there are many sub-roles for them to play. There are high damage, low fire rate guns; high fire rate, low accuracy guns; high accuracy, low fire rate guns; etc.

With pistols, they have just as many options. There are 5 altogether, the same number as ARs or SMGs. The only time you would use a revovler is a when you want a big accurate gun with low ammo capacity and a slow fire rate. If you instead wanted a weaker but faster firing gun you would go semi-auto. If you want a high fire rate but low accuracy gun you would go for a machine pistol.

Point is that a revolver is already a sub-class of pistols. There's only one carbine in the game, the CARB-9.
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Post » Mon Jun 21, 2010 9:46 am

" (?) "[/url] - http://world.guns.ru/assault/usa/m4-m4a1-e.html (http://www.vltor.com/handguards_and_rails_pics.htm#BE4), made by Colt

I believe it is a modified M4A1 as this post describes. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bf/SAJ_M4_rifle.JPG - I compared sizes, and they look quite similar. The Stock on the M4 is just the basic model, I am pretty sure the Canadian version of the M4 has the stock of the Unknown weapon.
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Post » Mon Jun 21, 2010 9:34 am

Pistols (Light Secondary)

?"Kolt" - (?) m1911 variant of some sort, original design by Browning for Colt Arms


?" (?) " - Bul Cherokee, made by Bul Ltd

?" (?) " - VBR-Belgium, made by Van Bruaene Rik

?"Sea Eagle" - Sigma (?) , made by Smith & Wesson

?" (?) " - PPC, made by Dan Wesson


I found a gun that looks ALOT like the unknown pistol that isn't crossed out http://world.guns.ru/userfiles/images/handguns/russia/hg50/1287755175.jpg Except for the rear ring-guard and the modified grip there basically the same, even the IS look the same
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