Britain, safer or more dangerous?

Post » Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:33 am

Ok, if we gather what we can fro Fallout on Britain.
?Its livable-Tenpenny came from there
?US-UK relations weren't great-Proven in point lookout
?Probably caught up in European Commonwealth civil war
?Tenpenny described it as awful and very bad, so probably worse than US

Do we think society continued this side of the pond, or total annihalation due to the whole world hating us Brits? ;)
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Post » Sat Nov 17, 2012 7:08 pm

Impossible to say, probably about the same,

If you feel like researching what might have happened, you can get access to a lot of cool documents in the National archives in Kew. I felt rather privelidged to be able to hold the "War Book" in my hands - essentially the plan of what was going to happen leading up to war.

I can also give you a lead on a document that looked at creating a series of fallout shelters nationwide, and the minuted discussion of why they decided not to recommend it.

Theres a whole lot stuff in there from the era, and I could only just start on the massive amounts of civil defense stuff that just about anyone can get access to.
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Post » Sat Nov 17, 2012 9:54 pm

Considering the Brits are well-known (at least in America) for pretty much going "That kinda hurts" when most men would be begging to have their limbs surgically reattached*... I'd be willing to bet that post-apocalypse Britan is slightly worse-off than the CW... but not by much. And a lot more... calm.

*This tendency for underestimation can be a sticking point in warfare situations. There's a story (not sure how recent) that a British fireteam kept radioing in to the American operators that they're in a "spot of trouble." What the Americans didn't understand is that "spot of trouble" for British means "GET US THE **** OUT OF HERE NOW!" and it took a while before help was sent. Anyway, the point is that I'd imagine that Post-Apocalyptic Britan (as seen from an American standpoint, which it will be unless development is outsourced to British developers) will be unusually level-headed considering the circumstances. Pretty much http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/UnusuallyUninterestingSight would be in full effect.
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Post » Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:47 pm

Thanks Agent C, I've already seen a bit of what might happen as my grandfather worked in one of the government run shelters that acted as lookout points. He showed us round once and it was pretty awful.
it was about 6 feet wide and 12 feet deep. Unventilated air. No radiation protection. Enough food for two months, max.

Honestly I think the government expected men in these bunkers to die, they just wanted some kind of system to tell them what bombs had fallen where.
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Post » Sat Nov 17, 2012 9:28 pm

Didn't the devs of Fallout 3 say that the whole point of Tenpenny being from the UK was to show how bad things are over there? As in it's so bad someone would risk crossing the ocean to American all while not knowing what it would be like over there. The thinking is "anything is better then being here."

It's also interesting to note that it isn't mentioned in Fallout 3 or any of the game guides that he his from the UK. The devs just pulled that out of their butts after Fallout 3 was said and done.

Also the whole world was destroyed during the Great War. Also given how europe was at war with itself and before that the middle east. It is safe to say things were already pretty bad before the Great War. The Great War just made it a thousands times worse.
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Post » Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:24 pm

People keep saying Britain would be completely destroyed but I don't see why it would be any more so than the US, Britain is a lesser target in the eyes of the USSR and China and they'd probably be least effected by the war in Europe, its France and Germany who'd fight most of the war in Europe.

But yeah maybe tenpennys origin was a throwaway reference and we're all reading into it way too much. =)
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Post » Sat Nov 17, 2012 3:12 pm

Well, Orpheus... in most cases of Nuclear War, it's assumed that people will be firing their nukes at their enemies... regardless of how much of a target they are.

Pretty much a world-wide case of "If I'm going down, I'm taking you all with me!" But I don't think that any single nation would be completely destroyed in the FO universe... I mean look at the CW. By all rights it should be leveled, even after the Devs scaled back the effects of a nuclear strike (or several) on the US Capitol.
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Post » Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:31 pm

Surely even the USSR had limitations on the amount of nukes they had, even in the fallout timeline. And im sure the US would be a disproportionately larger target than the UK in the great war.
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Post » Sat Nov 17, 2012 9:31 pm

The UK ministry of defence during the cold war said that half the population would die in the event of a nuclear war (WW3) just from the nuclear attacks. That would cause a complete collapse of all social order. More people would die in the follow years from disease, malnutrition, dehydration, exposure and killing one another. And that is if things we going well before the nuclear war.

Like I said the UK would have been at war with other European nations before the Great War, and before that they were at war with the middle east.

"The US would annex Canada and the European Commonwealth would dissolve into quarrelling bickering nation states bent on controlling the last remaining resources on Earth. In 2077 the storm of World War had come again. In two brief hours most of the planet was reduced to cinders and from the ashes of nuclear devastation a new civilization would struggle to arise"
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Post » Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:41 am

I thought the UK left the European Commonwealth and buddied up to the US. And when that failed they shut themself off to the world?
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Post » Sat Nov 17, 2012 7:02 pm

I thought the UK left the European Commonwealth and buddied up to the US. And when that failed they shut themself off to the world?

The UN fell apart. The Commonwealth fell apart. The United States closed it's borders and had no allies. It was on it's own.
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Post » Sat Nov 17, 2012 4:12 pm

No I mean before the collapse of the EC, I thought that the UK left in like 2045 (That's a guess) as opposed to the whole thing collapsing in, what, 2076?
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