Broken re-install : IV

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:24 am

Reinstalled Oblivion recently, went with my usual FCOM setup, redownloaded latest versions, etc. Played for a few weeks or so, 50+ hour game on the go. For some reason, I decide its a good idea to 'clean up' my install, and so I make a fresh install of Oblivion (after copying my Bash Installers folder and the couple OMODs I have), this time installing all my Bash installers in a logical manner, (they were all over the place before) along with changing a few mods/updating them. It inevitably breaks, with games loading for a few seconds before CTD. I try and return everything to how it was before, and despite Wrye Bash telling me that all my installers are green/yellow (and back in the previous order), my saves have all the required mods loaded (with the same BOSS masterlist), the problem still remains. I can start a new game no problem, It's my saves which have gone kaput.

I know how annoying topics like this are, but I have pretty much attempted everything within my own limited knowledge to get this working again. Any help at all would be very much appreciated!

My load order, though it was working perfectly before...
Any way to make it scrolly?

Spoiler

00 Oblivion.esm 01 You Are Here.esm 02 AWS-Core.esm 03 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm 04 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm 05 battlemagearmor2-0Base.esm 06 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72] 07 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34] 08 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b1] 09 Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm 0A CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esm 0B TamrielTravellers.esm [Version 1.39c] 0C FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9a7] 0D Armamentarium.esm [Version 1.2.2] 0E Kvatch Rebuilt.esm 0F Better Cities Resources.esm 10 CURP_Controller.esm 11 HorseCombatMaster.esm 12 Younger Hotter NPC's v1.0.esp 13 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.0] 14 DLCShiveringIsles.esp 15 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0] 16 Better Cities .esp 17 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp 18 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp 19 Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp 1A Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests-SI only.esp 1B Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp 1C FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9] 1D FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9] 1E FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9] 1F Fran Armor Add-on.esp 20 Fran_Lv30Item_Maltz.esp 21 AWS-Main.esp 22 AWS-ShiveringIsles.esp 23 AWS-Water.esp 24 AWS-Tweaks PB.esp 25 BetterImperfectWater.esp 26 WindowLightingSystem.esp 27 Ayleid Loot EXtension.esp 28 Book Jackets Oblivion.esp 29 Cyrodilic Brandy.esp 2A Guiding Beacons.esp 2B ImprovedSigns.esp 2C Pitchable_Tent_anywhere.esp 2D Treleths_Pitchable_Tent.esp 2E Q - More and Moldy Ingredients v1.1.esp 2F RAEVWD Cities.esp [Version 1.7] 30 RAEVWD New Sheoth.esp [Version 1.5] 31 RAEVWD Imperial City.esp [Version 1.7] 32 Wyverex's - Runes.esp 33 Enhanced Economy.esp [Version 4.0.6] 34 moDem's City Life.esp 35 BHLLC.esp 36 [SIMO].esp 37 Crowded Roads.esp [Version 2.0] 38 Choices and Consequences.esp [Version 2.02] 39 C&C - The Blackwood Company.esp 3A MapMarkers.esp 3B DLCHorseArmor.esp 3C DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] 3D DLCOrrery.esp 3E DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.3] 3F DLCSpellTomes.esp 40 DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1] 41 battlemagearmor2-0 compatability loot.esp 42 DMGloves.esp 43 Tyrael Armor.esp 44 BSS BmAS 2-0 WarlockExBeta.esp 45 BSS BmAS 2-0 Icon Ex1.esp 46 Thieves Arsenal.esp 47 StockClothingArmor-forExnems.esp 48 ExnemRuneskulls.esp 49 FCOM_ExnemRuneskulls.esp [Version 0.9.9] 4A Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72] 4B Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63] 4C OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp [Version 1.72] 4D FCOM_Cobl.esp [Version 0.9.9] ++ Cobl Tweaks.esp [Version 1.44] 4E Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34] 4F Choices and Consequences - OOO.esp [Version 2.0] 50 ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp [Version 1.2.2] 51 FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9] 52 FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9] 53 FCOM_SaferRoads.esp [Version 0.9.9] 54 Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp [Version 3.7b1] 55 Mart's Monster Mod - No Carrion Rats.esp [Version 3.7b1] 56 Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp [Version 3.7b1] 57 Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp [Version 3.7b1] 58 TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp [Version 1.39c] 59 TamrielTravellersItemsNPC.esp [Version 1.39c] 5A TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp [Version 1.39c] 5B ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp [Version 1.39c] 5C FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp [Version 0.9.9] 5D Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 0.18] 5E ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp 5F FineWeapons for OOO.esp 60 RustyItems for OOO.esp 61 C&C - The Blackwood Company - OOO.esp 62 OOO-WaterFish.esp [Version 1.34] 63 MMM-Cobl.esp [Version 1.69] 64 Ivellon.esp [Version 1.8] 65 Artifacts_of_the_AncestorsFully_Translated-7395.esp 66 Castle_Veyond.esp 67 hackdirtabyss.esp 68 kingdomofAlmar.esp 69 kingdomofAlamar_OOO.esp 6A Kvatch Rebuilt.esp 6B Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp 6C Kvatch Rebuilt - Leveled Guards - FCOM.esp 6D Lakeview2.esp 6E LetThePeopleDrink-Cobl.esp [Version 2.5] 6F The Ayleid Steps.esp [Version 3.3.2] 70 Ayleid Respawn v1.0 - For The Ayleid Steps.esp 71 TheElderCouncil.esp 72 VaultsofCyrodiil.esp 73 VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp 74 Knights.esp 75 Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9] 76 Mart's Monster Mod - Knights.esp [Version 3.7b1] 77 Castle_Knightstone.esp 78 TOTF.esp 79 The Lost Spires.esp 7A Ungarion1TheWelkyndSword.esp [Version 1.4] 7B Blood&Mud.esp 7C Blood&Mud - EE patch.esp [Version 1.0] 7D Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp 7E MannimarcoRevisited.esp 7F MannimarcoWardrobeChest.esp 80 FCOM_Blood&Mud.esp [Version 0.9.9] 81 FCOM_Knights.esp [Version 0.9.9] 82 FCOM_Ruin.esp [Version 0.9.9] 83 Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esp 84 FCOM_EnhancedDaedricInvasion.esp [Version 0.9.9] 85 xuldarkforest.esp [Version 1.0.4] 86 LostSpires-DarkForest patch.esp 87 xulStendarrValley.esp [Version 1.2.2] 88 xulTheHeath.esp 89 XulEntiusGorge.esp 8A xulFallenleafEverglade.esp [Version 1.3.1] 8B LostSpires-Everglade patch.esp [Version 1.2] 8C TheElderCouncil-FallenleafEverglade patch.esp [Version 1.2] 8D xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp [Version 1.2.1] 8E xulChorrolHinterland.esp [Version 1.2.2] 8F xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp [Version 1.6.4] 90 Castle_Almgard-V2.esp 91 xulBravilBarrowfields.esp [Version 1.3.2] 92 xulLushWoodlands.esp [Version 1.3] 93 xulAncientYews.esp [Version 1.4.2] 94 xulAncientRedwoods.esp [Version 1.6] 95 xulCloudtopMountains.esp [Version 1.0.3] 96 xulArriusCreek.esp [Version 1.1.3] 97 xulPatch_AY_AC.esp [Version 1.1] 98 xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp [Version 1.3.2] 99 xulPantherRiver.esp 9A Blood&Mud-PantherRiver patch.esp 9B xulRiverEthe.esp [Version 1.0.2] 9C xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp [Version 1.0.2] 9D xulImperialIsle.esp [Version 1.6.3] 9E xulBlackwoodForest.esp 9F xulCheydinhalFalls.esp [Version 1.0.1] A0 TearsOfTheFiend-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp A1 KvatchRebuilt-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp A2 xulAspenWood.esp [Version 1.0.1] A3 xulSkingradOutskirts.esp A4 BarrowFields-Blood&Mud-Patch.esp [Version 1.3] A5 RealisticFlora.esp [Version 2.7.0] A6 gardening.esp A7 Great Gate Essential NPC's.esp A8 HarderRepairs_5.esp A9 JQ-Bandages.esp AA Oblivion - Soulgems.esp AB Gold Change II.esp AC NirnrootPermPotions.esp AD VarlaEnchanting.esp AE Random Welkynd and Varla Stones.esp AF RTSWelkyndClstrTreasure.esp [Version 2.0] B0 SA Social Alertness.esp B1 Border-Region-disabled.esp B2 DurableEquipment_10.esp B3 Quest Award Leveller.esp B4 Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp B5 Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp B6 RealSleepExtended.esp [Version 2.4.2] B7 Level Based Summon Cap.esp B8 Syc_AtHomeAlchemy.esp B9 DirenniAlchemyApparatus.esp BA Enchantment Enhanced.esp BB StealthOverhaul.esp BC Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed block and 150% damage.esp BD DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp BE Oblivion XP.esp [Version 4.1.5] BF Oblivion XP - Knights.esp [Version 1.0] C0 Oblivion XP - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 1.0] C1 Oblivion XP - DLCOrrery.esp [Version 1.0] C2 Dark Dungeons - SI.esp C3 _darker_dungeons.esp ++ Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp [Version 0.76] ++ Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag.esp [Version 0.76] ++ Item interchange - Option, Ingredients in Bulk.esp [Version 0.76] C4 CM_Blackie_the_Fence.esp C5 Cobl Races.esp [Version 1.52] C6 bgBalancingEVCore.esp [Version 10.52EV-D] C7 Feather Enchanting Fix.esp C8 Detect Life Shader Green.esp C9 Arch Mages Robe Enchanted.esp CA bgMagicEV.esp [Version 1.7EV] CB bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp [Version 1.68EV] CC bgMagicItemSigil.esp [Version 1.68EV] CD bgMagicEVStartspells.esp [Version 1.68EV] CE bgMagicBonus.esp [Version 1.7EV] CF bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp [Version 1.68EV] D0 bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp [Version 1.68EV] D1 bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversity, Vanilla.esp [Version 10.0EV-D] D2 bgBalancingVanillaGMSTArmorPenalty.esp [Version 9.0UV-U] D3 bgBalancingEVOptionalFCOMAdditions.esp [Version 10.] D4 bgBalancingOptionalNPCDiversityKvatchRebuilt, for Wrye Bash.esp [Version 9.0EV-D] D5 bgBalancingEVLAMEGlue.esp [Version 10.0EV-D1.62EV] D6 bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversityLAME.esp [Version 10.5EV-D] D7 bgIntegrationEV.esp [Version 0.993] D8 bgIntegrationEV - Alternative NPC Faces by LazyMonk.esp [Version 0.99] D9 Better Cities - Full City Defences.esp DA Better Cities SKINGRAD.esp DB Better Cities BRAVIL - Blood & Mud.esp DC BCBravilB&MFULL-Barrowfields patch.esp DD Better Cities ANVIL.esp DE Better Cities CHORROL.esp DF BCChorrol-ChorrolHinterland fix.esp E0 Better Cities CHEYDINHAL.esp E1 Better Cities - Tears of the Fiend.esp E2 BCCheydinhalFULLB&M-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp E3 Better Cities LEYAWIIN.esp E4 Better Cities BRUMA.esp E5 BCSkingrad-SkingradOutskirts patch.esp E6 Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp E7 Better Cities IC Arboretum.esp E8 Better Cities IC Arena.esp E9 Better Cities IC Elven Gardens.esp EA Better Cities IC Green Emperor Way.esp EB Better Cities IC Market.esp EC Better Cities IC Prison.esp ED Better Cities IC Talos Plaza.esp EE Better Cities IC Temple.esp EF Better Cities IC Waterfront.esp F0 Better Cities - COBL.esp [Version 2] F1 DynamicTimescale.esp F2 bgMagicEVShader.esp [Version 1.7EV] F3 bgMagicLightningbolt.esp F4 Real Hunger, Cobl.esp [Version 1.6.1]  ++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53] F5 Bashed Patch, 0.esp

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 7:41 am

I'd probably start by rebuilding your bashed patch with just the levelled list option and see if your save games work with that. If it does, start adding back bashed patch options till it starts to fail.

Lotta changes in the bashed patch recently.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:52 am

Any way to make it scrolly?

Click on the "Other styles" box and select Spoiler...

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:55 pm

Sadly nothing, seems to crash in pretty much the same way. Is there any point in activating them one by one, or is the problem elsewhere?

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:29 am

Shouldn't be the bashed patch if only levelled lists are included.

Try it with just Oblivion.esm and see if that works. If it does, try just disabling the bashed patch and see if that works. Gotta narrow it down.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:54 am

Works with just Oblivion.esm, but not with just the bashed patch disabled... thanks for your help so far btw

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 7:07 am

This is pretty much the point where you disable the bottom half of your mods and test it. If it works you know the problem is in there, so disable half of that half and test.

Continue or invert as necessary.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:07 am

Finally narrowed it down to better cities, which I uninstalled, loaded my game, and then reinstalled. No more problems! Thanks a lot for your help