Broken Steel: New Vegas

Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 5:12 am

I think they should do it

It would have to be released as an expansion to cover all endings but it would work (it would probably be 3200MSP, $40)

Broken Steel improved Fo3 in my opinion since I think, for any RPG, that you should be able to continue after the credits

it doesn't matter that people say "Obsidian said they wouldn't make one" because if enough wanted it then they would do it. Bethesda probably didn't plan on making a continuation to the ending until their customers wanted it.
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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 12:18 am

I think they should do it

It would have to be released as an expansion to cover all endings but it would work (it would probably be 3200MSP, $40)

Broken Steel improved Fo3 in my opinion since I think, for any RPG, that you should be able to continue after the credits

it doesn't matter that people say "Obsidian said they wouldn't make one" because if enough wanted it then they would do it. Bethesda probably didn't plan on making a continuation to the ending until their customers wanted it.


To make an expansion to cover all the possible endings would be alot of work and I doubt they would go through the trouble to do so. If they did do it and did it so well that every single possible ending was relected then I would be ok with it. Still not going to happen because it would be like making four New Vegas in one.. $40 for such an expansion is a major understatement. It would be $120 plus.

Obsidian will not do it because it would mean removing the endings which will ruin the game and for what? So people can run around doing all the stuff they could have done before the game ended? The game warns you its going to end. People knew it was going to end before the game even came out. By now people should know its going to end!

Broken Steel did not improve Fallout 3. It ruined alot of things in New Vegas. Mostly the entire story with the Enclave and their plan.

There are many RPGs that end. Fallout ended. Fallout 2 has some play after the end up its poinless. Fallout 3 ended as well.
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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 5:58 am

Well, there is of course the option of releasing 4 separate post endgame DLC's, one for each of the possible endings. That way you would only need to purchase the one that interested you. (they wouldn't all be 'doable' on a single playthrough)
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Post » Sat Sep 25, 2010 10:43 pm

Well, there is of course the option of releasing 4 separate post endgame DLC's, one for each of the possible endings. That way you would only need to purchase the one that interested you. (they wouldn't all be 'doable' on a single playthrough)

They would have to change all the settlements like if legion win:
ncr camps filled with legion
most places are empty cause of slaving and many other things

plus what are we gonna do with no ennemys?
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Post » Sat Sep 25, 2010 8:45 pm

They would have to change all the settlements like if legion win:
ncr camps filled with legion
most places are empty cause of slaving and many other things

plus what are we gonna do with no ennemys?

Tea party's all round :tops: .
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Post » Sat Sep 25, 2010 5:21 pm

To make an expansion to cover all the possible endings would be alot of work and I doubt they would go through the trouble to do so. If they did do it and did it so well that every single possible ending was relected then I would be ok with it. Still not going to happen because it would be like making four New Vegas in one.. $40 for such an expansion is a major understatement. It would be $120 plus.

Um that is by far a way to high of a estimate. The highest it would go is 60 dollars(equivalent to the game when it came out). Theres no way in hell it would go past 120 or merely that close. No gamers would buy it...
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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 6:45 am

Um that is by far a way to high of a estimate. The highest it would go is 60 dollars(equivalent to the game when it came out). Theres no way in hell it would go past 120 or merely that close. No gamers would buy it...


I put it that high because having play after the end that relects all the endings would be like making New Vegas four times over and then some. So $60 times four = $240 but I put it low and said $120. Why go through all that? Because some people ignore the waring about the game ending or can't understand the consept of making more then one save?

RPG does not mean the game never has to end.
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Post » Sat Sep 25, 2010 8:48 pm

They would have to change all the settlements like if legion win:
ncr camps filled with legion
most places are empty cause of slaving and many other things

plus what are we gonna do with no ennemys?


How would having no enemies be any different from now? lol
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Post » Sat Sep 25, 2010 10:24 pm

OH so now Im not a true fan because I don t want 10 and 13 year old holes in the fallout story lol.

The number of people that just jump on here and ask about an "is the game going to continue" greatly outweight the people that r on this site all the time.

Most of the people that r on this site all the time have an agenda (myself included). The 100s of threads made by posters you don t normally see on here do not have an agenda. This tells me that the actual number of all fo fans probably want to know the ending.

Don t ever tell me I m not a real fo fan because I don t agree with not knowing the end of the story. Or that I don t like the fact that there r 10 and 13 year old holes in the overall fo story so some people can [censored] speculate for a decade.

Maybe I m more of a fan than you because I want the whole fo story.

Ever think of that?


Here's another facet of your argument to consider. How many copies of New Vegas were sold, tens of thousands, millions ?. Now given the total quantity of copies sold how many people are happy with the game as it stand and thus do not feel the need to jump on the forums and try to say the game is broken because it ends ??.

With regards to your bit about the end of the story. The end of the New Vegas story is the battle of Hoover Dam, once you've done that it gives you a brief precis on some factions or things you did during your playthrough of the game and the main character then walks off into the sunset (end of story, period). Having said this I am not trying say that you're not as much a "Fallout Fan" as any other "Fallout Fan". How many books, films, plays end with the main character still alive and walking off into the proverbial sunset, never to be heard of again ?.

With the ending, how many games be they FPS, RPG, Action or whatever end on a climactic note/battle/event ?, to then continue on is somewhat anti-climactic and in at least some people's opinions a massive let down (I acknowledge that for some other people that it doesn't continue is again a massive let down). It could be viewed as ending the game with a bang instead of a whimper.
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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 4:48 am

With the ending, how many games be they FPS, RPG, Action or whatever end on a climactic note/battle/event ?, to then continue on is somewhat anti-climactic and in at least some people's opinions a massive let down (I acknowledge that for some other people that it doesn't continue is again a massive let down). It could be viewed as ending the game with a bang instead of a whimper.


Fallout ends with the Vault Dweller never beeing seen again. Fallout 2 ends with the Chosen One never being seen again. Tactics, well we don't know the canon ending for that but all but one ending has the Warrior never being seen again. Fallout 3 the "Lone Wanderer" was supposed to keep on wandering of into the sunset. But people (that never heard of Fallout ) said to hell with the story I want to keep shooting stuff *EPIC!*

Fallout is about change, human progress and human conflicts "war, war never changes." Our characters come in change the game world and move on. Endings tell us what happens to that world based on our actions. Which gives the games meaning. I was crushed first time I finished Fallout 3. I was waiting for a great story about what happened to everyone and I got NOTHING!
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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 12:49 am

I personally don t care if the games goes on of not, its more about knowing for me. I was crushed when I knew I wouldn t know what really happened.

There is a way future fo could do this, but no one agrees with my idea on thar either. Everyone would get pretty close to what they want though.
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Post » Sat Sep 25, 2010 8:27 pm

First-off i say yes, ive completed this game many times over... literally logged over 100+ hrs and the ways the game end, are boring and dull. Fallout 3 had great DLC's, to the point tht when u beat the game and u sacrificed urself, u actually woke up and was able to continue the story, and they added more lvls and perks. personally i think dead money is a complete annoyance, the fact tht im stripped of everything when being gassed(especially if i was wearing faction armor, and when i put tht armor back on after i complete the dlc, my rep when wearing the armor is reset to neutral.) i dont know if thts a glitch or not but, the fact tht i have to do the DLC BEFORE i complete the game is a let down, I would love to be a lvl 35 badass going into the Sierra Madre. On another note... does anyone else think that the BoS is a filler in this game? The BoS is my #1 faction and they got the back-burner in this game. WTF
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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 9:54 am

First-off i say yes, ive completed this game many times over... literally logged over 100+ hrs and the ways the game end, are boring and dull. Fallout 3 had great DLC's, to the point tht when u beat the game and u sacrificed urself, u actually woke up and was able to continue the story, and they added more lvls and perks. personally i think dead money is a complete annoyance, the fact tht im stripped of everything when being gassed(especially if i was wearing faction armor, and when i put tht armor back on after i complete the dlc, my rep when wearing the armor is reset to neutral.) i dont know if thts a glitch or not but, the fact tht i have to do the DLC BEFORE i complete the game is a let down, I would love to be a lvl 35 badass going into the Sierra Madre. On another note... does anyone else think that the BoS is a filler in this game? The BoS is my #1 faction and they got the back-burner in this game. WTF

Did you actualy use fallout 3 and great dlcs in the same sentecnce

o:a [censored]
mothership zetta : worst dlc ever
broken steel: ruined the game
the pit- I hated it
point lookout: meh

in mothership zetta you loose your gear
the pit you loose your gear and o:a you loose your gear
but

dead money: great story and great gameplay

I hate the bos they jar take everyones tech I wish I could have sided with the enclave in f3 I blew up the citidel and killed every bos member I saw
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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 1:00 am

If the game continues past the ending it would ruin the whole point of an ending. Also, what's the point of extending the game past the main quest? To finish up a couple side quests? I'd rather they invest their time in something MORE IMPORTANT then this. I.E other DLC that would add alot to the game instead of a DLC that extrends the main quest and adds a couple more....

They also stated they won't do this and I hope to hell they don't.
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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 4:42 am

If the game continues past the ending it would ruin the whole point of an ending. Also, what's the point of extending the game past the main quest? To finish up a couple side quests? I'd rather they invest their time in something MORE IMPORTANT then this. I.E other DLC that would add alot to the game instead of a DLC that extrends the main quest and adds a couple more....

They also stated they won't do this and I hope to hell they don't.

This
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Post » Sat Sep 25, 2010 9:33 pm

First-off i say yes, ive completed this game many times over... literally logged over 100+ hrs and the ways the game end, are boring and dull. Fallout 3 had great DLC's, to the point tht when u beat the game and u sacrificed urself, u actually woke up and was able to continue the story, and they added more lvls and perks. personally i think dead money is a complete annoyance, the fact tht im stripped of everything when being gassed(especially if i was wearing faction armor, and when i put tht armor back on after i complete the dlc, my rep when wearing the armor is reset to neutral.) i dont know if thts a glitch or not but, the fact tht i have to do the DLC BEFORE i complete the game is a let down, I would love to be a lvl 35 badass going into the Sierra Madre. On another note... does anyone else think that the BoS is a filler in this game? The BoS is my #1 faction and they got the back-burner in this game. WTF


Fallout 3 was building up to the point were you sacrifice yourself and then Broken Steel ruined that. Plus the ending was crap because you can't get a companion to do it. Fawkes or Charon could do it and be find but their is not option to do it. There is only two outcomes to Fallout 3 "Good or Evil" and broken steel takes away the Evil option and continues to rail road you along into helping the good guys. Sure you can blow up the BoS but the Enclave arn't thankful just like they arn't thankful for you helping with their FEV.

BoS are completely avoidable in Fallout. There are only a couple Brotherhood soldiers in Fallout 2 and again you can avoid them. Fallout 3 made it all about the BoS. Forced to join them, forced to help them. So being on the "back-burner" as you put it is really where they belong. The game is not supposed to be about them!
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Post » Sat Sep 25, 2010 9:48 pm

What if you could play past the ending, but just not in NV? That would be easy to develop and please both crowds.

The courier 'walks off' at the end, so what if the new DLC continued in a new location. You could keep all of the gear you've amassed and the people you encounter could remark on the ending you chose.

Example:

"I hear the NCR held the dam." "I heard that Mr. House sent the legion packing." "Have you heard about this 'Yes Man?'

The DLC could occur somewhere near NV, just not in it, and be free roam like Point Lookout. Neither the NCR nor the legion are gone, so you could still interact with them.

If you did that, any ending could be reflected without having to remake NV, and you could see how your actions shaped the region.

I think that'd be a good solution.
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Post » Sat Sep 25, 2010 10:40 pm

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Would not work. People would want to go back to the Mojave. No point in going back if their are no changes. People will also want the companions to come with them. Pretty much this all comes down to wanting to run around with all the goodies people get from the ending.

People just need to learn to save and pay attention to the warning about the game coming to an END. Game also tells you what quests you can't do if you help one faction over another.
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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 1:43 am

Would not work. People would want to go back to the Mojave. No point in going back if their are no changes. People will also want the companions to come with them. Pretty much this all comes down to wanting to run around with all the goodies people get from the ending.

People just need to learn to save and pay attention to the warning about the game coming to an END. Game also tells you what quests you can't do if you help one faction over another.


Uh.....the whole point of my idea would be that you couldn't go back to NV. Once you finish the game, the DLC activates, and you're locked out of the Mojave. You could keep your gear, but not your companions. :shrug:
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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 12:11 am

Uh.....the whole point of my idea would be that you couldn't go back to NV. Once you finish the game, the DLC activates, and you're locked out of the Mojave. You could keep your gear, but not your companions. :shrug:


I get it but people would want to go back to the Mojave. Also making such a DLC is pretty much making a new game. The Legion and NCR if would still know about the changes made back in the Mojave.
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Post » Sat Sep 25, 2010 7:37 pm

They should just start locking these threads because there is seriously no point in discussion of this topic. They should put a big sticky that says "no there will not be a future DLC that lets you play after you've finished the game, thats what the warning meant when it said the game was going to end." The devs said before the game came out that they weren't even going to entertain the idea of a DLC that lets you continue after the ending of the game so please lets stop creating these useless threads.
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Post » Sat Sep 25, 2010 9:55 pm

You can't fix what's not broken.
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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 8:39 am

A DLC that continues after the Hoover dam, but only for the House ending would be sweet. Repairing freeside, using new vegas steel to build stuff. Fighting off invaders that want to wreck everything. <---- Never going to happen.

Doesn't mean a post-ending DLC is always going to be bad though. I think that would be pretty fricken sweet.
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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 4:22 am

Not a BIG DEAL !!!!! The manual labor of having to start up different game save gives me gut wrenching pain like wrestling a deathclaw to the ground for the last radroach meat.And YOU EXPECT me to play more than 1 character ARE YOU ON METH you [censored].SARCASM!!!!!!!!!!!!


Omg.. im dying with laughter
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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 3:18 am

Forgive me of my ignorance, but who care's what Obsidian said about not making a Broken Steel type expansion dlc thing..Beth bought the rights to the Fallout Series, Obsidian works for Beth now.. so if Beth wants to make a BS for NV then Obsidian has to make it. Tough [censored] if they dont want to, dont sell your rights and keep making your own games.

Dont get me wrong i've played FO an FO2 and i love them, but Obsidian isn't calling the shots anymore.
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