Broken Steel: New Vegas

Post » Sat Sep 25, 2010 10:41 pm

Forgive me of my ignorance, but who care's what Obsidian said about not making a Broken Steel type expansion dlc thing..Beth bought the rights to the Fallout Series, Obsidian works for Beth now.. so if Beth wants to make a BS for NV then Obsidian has to make it. Tough [censored] if they dont want to, dont sell your rights and keep making your own games.

Dont get me wrong i've played FO an FO2 and i love them, but Obsidian isn't calling the shots anymore.

Question is, do Bethesda want to force Obsidian to create one?
Hell, does Bethesda even want one to begin with?
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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 8:46 am

Forgive me of my ignorance, but who care's what Obsidian said about not making a Broken Steel type expansion dlc thing..Beth bought the rights to the Fallout Series, Obsidian works for Beth now.. so if Beth wants to make a BS for NV then Obsidian has to make it. Tough [censored] if they dont want to, dont sell your rights and keep making your own games.

Dont get me wrong i've played FO an FO2 and i love them, but Obsidian isn't calling the shots anymore.


Bethesda itselft dont want a DLC ala Broken Steel
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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 10:04 am

What's wrong with wanting to see the effects of all your hard work physically in the game? I know it's not a feasible goal if they only begin now, but if they had been dedicated to it from the start, I'm sure they could have accomplished it.
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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 4:10 am

What's wrong with wanting to see the effects of all your hard work physically in the game? I know it's not a feasible goal if they only begin now, but if they had been dedicated to it from the start, I'm sure they could have accomplished it.

It ruines the game
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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 1:00 am

It ruines the game

This as fun as bs was it killed fo3 a little.
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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 2:05 am

Fix the ending of new vegas? There is nothing broken.

It should stay as it is.

Also,Broken steel lives up to its name,because it managed to break the only decision that actually mattered in FO3.
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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 12:38 am

Question is, do Bethesda want to force Obsidian to create one?
Hell, does Bethesda even want one to begin with?

I think Bethesda layed down some ground rules before the agreement and that was that. They shouldn t tell Obsidian what to do after the agreement was made. Video games are a kind of art, and I don t think Bethesda would has got Obsidian, and I don t think Obsidian would have agreed without a certain amount of freedom being involved.

Plus I think Bethesda wanted to see what these guys would do with fo in todays video game world.

IMO
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Post » Sat Sep 25, 2010 10:18 pm

Forgive me of my ignorance, but who care's what Obsidian said about not making a Broken Steel type expansion dlc thing..Beth bought the rights to the Fallout Series, Obsidian works for Beth now.. so if Beth wants to make a BS for NV then Obsidian has to make it. Tough [censored] if they dont want to, dont sell your rights and keep making your own games.

Dont get me wrong i've played FO an FO2 and i love them, but Obsidian isn't calling the shots anymore.


Obsidian didn't develop the original Fallouts. That was Black Isle. Published by Interplay. Black Isle crumbled before the release of Van Buren (original FO3), because of layoffs by Interplay. Interplay is the one who sold the rights, and is in no way affiliated with Obsidian. Obsidian was founded by members of Black Isle and has former Black Isle members, but has different people. Bethesda approached them to make a Fallout game. Jason Bergman himself, a Bethesda employee who has closely worked with Obsidian, has stated himself that there would be no Broken Steel-esque DLC. In fact, I think it is him who first confirmed it. Bethesda is on board with Obsidian. That whole thing was likely discussed when they were in talks of creating the game, and they have been in agreement over it for what is likely a long time.

Sorry for the history lesson.
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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 4:55 am

They should just start locking these threads because there is seriously no point in discussion of this topic. They should put a big sticky that says "no there will not be a future DLC that lets you play after you've finished the game, thats what the warning meant when it said the game was going to end." The devs said before the game came out that they weren't even going to entertain the idea of a DLC that lets you continue after the ending of the game so please lets stop creating these useless threads.

Why lock the threads??? Bethesda would be smart to try to get a feel of what people want and why they want it.
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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 5:21 am

i agree they should start locking these threads, were just arguing about futile things...i mean come on this is just morbidly obese! :cheat:
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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 9:32 am

Fix the ending of new vegas? There is nothing broken.

It should stay as it is.

Also,Broken steel lives up to its name,because it managed to break the only decision that actually mattered in FO3.

These " decisions " you think you made in nv don t matter either. It is broken, because I don t know who is in control of the nv.

This being said I don t think there should be any kind of extention on this game. It would cost too much, and Obsidian made it how they wanted to. Only thing left for nv is wait 4-10 years ( or more ) for a canon ending
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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 2:22 am

All these posts show that people want to know what happened after the game.


Anyone who wants to know what happened after the game should have paid attention to the slides that told them what happened after the game! :facepalm:

The courier 'walks off' at the end, so what if the new DLC continued in a new location.


Now this will eventually happen. Not sure what it'll be called, but the most likely option is "Fallout 4." :D
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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 10:24 am

I'm not opposed to an end game DLC. If Obsidian would go through the hassle to make a DLC that encompassed all of the changes that take place at the end of the game I would pay good money for it, because that wouldn't just be a DLC, it would be quite the large expansion. I don't feel that it would make such a large impact on the "meaning" of the game as to make the game less playable or enjoyable story-wise. In fact, since the endings are so general and there isn't much in terms of what happened to the courier, it would be nice to make a DLC that would be the final end to the game where you make a true place for your courier in the history of the Mojave (in contrast to walking off).

And on the FO3 subject that keeps arising here. Guy walks in the Lincoln memorial, "O noz it's a-gonna blow", I's go in/ You's (Lyons) go in (Damn it Fawkes), game over. I was so moved by the ending I just couldn't stand the thought of someone changing the story -_-.
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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 1:55 am

Obsidian didn't develop the original Fallouts. That was Black Isle. Published by Interplay. Black Isle crumbled before the release of Van Buren (original FO3), because of layoffs by Interplay. Interplay is the one who sold the rights, and is in no way affiliated with Obsidian. Obsidian was founded by members of Black Isle and has former Black Isle members, but has different people. Bethesda approached them to make a Fallout game. Jason Bergman himself, a Bethesda employee who has closely worked with Obsidian, has stated himself that there would be no Broken Steel-esque DLC. In fact, I think it is him who first confirmed it. Bethesda is on board with Obsidian. That whole thing was likely discussed when they were in talks of creating the game, and they have been in agreement over it for what is likely a long time.

Sorry for the history lesson.


No dont apologize, like i said forgive me of my ignorance, i wasnt sure, but FO3 and FONV were Bethesda's ideas, they went to Obsidian because of their experiance in making the games and wanted a connection to the previous ones no? but Obsidian is still working for Bethesda now, so if they changed their mind bc the fans want it wouldnt that mean Obsidian would have to bite their tounge and do it????
just askin
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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 3:23 am

Why lock the threads??? Bethesda would be smart to try to get a feel of what people want and why they want it.

They don't care what a very select group of fans want because they've already said they don't want to do it, they have no interest in making a continuance of the game after the final battle. Anyone who refuses to accept this needs to get over it and learn that no amount of begging is going to change that.

Annoying Adoring Fan: Plz u change ur mind now Obsidian?

Obsidian: No.

Annoying Adoring Fan: Plz?

Obsidian: Still no.

Annoying Adoring Fan: PLLLLLZZZZZZ?

Obsidian: Dude stop bugging us we said no get over it.

There is no chance and for the record I hope they don't change their mind because of a very small group of fans begging when they were clearly warned that the game was about to end. These threads should be locked because there's no point, the decision has been made and its not going to happen.
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Post » Sat Sep 25, 2010 11:45 pm

Thats the thing it will not make sense. Broken Steel Broke Fallout 3. The only way it can be done is to remove the endings or make four new Mojave wastelands to relect the changes made in the ending. There is also the many changes for all the smaller factions and companions. Way to much to account for to make play after the end.

I know you are new to the forum and welcome but its a dead horse. Devs said its not going to happen.

Just learn to save more.

all the time they're taking to release the 2nd dlc, they could have made 4 mojave wastelands...
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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 12:54 am

No dont apologize, like i said forgive me of my ignorance, i wasnt sure, but FO3 and FONV were Bethesda's ideas, they went to Obsidian because of their experiance in making the games and wanted a connection to the previous ones no? but Obsidian is still working for Bethesda now, so if they changed their mind bc the fans want it wouldnt that mean Obsidian would have to bite their tounge and do it????
just askin


I'm not sure about the complete nature of their contract, I have a feeling that certain conditions (likely including DLCs) grant Obsidian freedom over creating most of the stuff. If Bethesda were to order a Broken Steel-esque DLC, it may actually be in breach of contract. If the contract says that Obsidian must do what Bethesda pleases for the DLC, then yes, they could change their minds whenever they want. Also, NV wasn't technically Bethesda's idea, it came from bouncing ideas between companies. Bethesda just approached them and asked them if they'd be interested in doing a hypothetical Fallout game.
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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 8:23 am

all the time they're taking to release the 2nd dlc, they could have made 4 mojave wastelands...

Yah really and they havent even came out with a trailer yet!!!
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Post » Sat Sep 25, 2010 10:49 pm

I thought it was universally agreed that open world games should be playable after the end credits. I though that was why they released broken steel for FO3.



NO!!!!!!!!! IT IS NOT!!!!!!!!

Gosh darn, jimney crickets, my oh my, holy .....

No there is not going to be a Broken Steel for New Vegas, stop asking this bloody question.
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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 7:04 am

all the time they're taking to release the 2nd dlc, they could have made 4 mojave wastelands...


Yah really and they havent even came out with a trailer yet!!!


First: They are working on four DLC, two of which are finished and one released. Obsidian would have been give the writes to make the DLC before the game even came out. They said back then there would be no DLC to continue the play. Bethesda would have given them the ok to not have a BS DLC.

Second: Bethedsa is the one incharge of promoting the DLC IE they are the reason why we have no trailors. If you have a problem with having to wait for info, take it up with Bethesda.
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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 9:37 am


Second: Bethedsa is the one incharge of promoting the DLC IE they are the reason why we have no trailors. If you have a problem with having to wait for info, take it up with Bethesda.

Yah bethesda i want my trailer!!
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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 8:12 am

This might be a moot question anyway. Obsidian is laying off employees. We might not even get the last two announced DLCs. (Check the Honest Hearts FAQ thread for links and details).

I appreciated the way Broken Steel made up for the poor ending of F3 & I enjoyed the extra content, but it should have retained an ending (maybe the last Vertibird flight).
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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 12:33 pm

I don't understand why Obsidian would need to lay off employees considering how big of a success NV is/was sales wise. Plus the money from the DLC I just don't get it.
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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 7:38 am

I hope its just a smokescreen/they change their minds because half the fun of a bethesda game is to play after the main story ends without the inconvience of having to reload saves
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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 3:20 am

I hope its just a smokescreen/they change their minds because half the fun of a bethesda game is to play after the main story ends without the inconvience of having to reload saves


Yeah it is such a pain in the ass to take 10 seconds to go and open a saved game. :rolleyes:
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