Jameson mentioned Brotherhood activities in Chicago. Is that to say Fallout Tactics is considered canon now? Because last I heard, it wasn't. Not that I'm complaining. I know that it took a lot of creative liberties with the story, but I enjoyed that game nonetheless.

I'm pretty sure Ausir said at least part of the game is canon. I don't which parts though...

or they could be another Chicago Brotherhood of Steel that Bethesda made up.

Odd's are we will never know what is/isn't considered cannon by Bethesda as they NEVER TALK TO US. Only in rare and extremely limited interviews, so we won't ever get in depth with them int he nitty-gritty of things unless we kidnap them (and we won't do that, although I have though of bribing one of them... seriously... for some awnsers ).

So... we have to make this up or guess

The main events in Tactics that did not contradict 1&2 are considered Canon. Hence the Chicago reference.

I do not have a link but if you are really curious pm Ausir and he can hook you up with more info. One of his post on the topic was where I got the answer from when I was curious.

In my book everything that is in Tactics is True.. There is nothing really blantantly wrong with anything that went on in Tactics.. it's just a bunch of idiot diehard no it alls that think they know everything, but they don't know their head from a hole in the ground.

There is now evidence with Fallout 3 that the Enclave survived in many places. Who is to say that the Enclave did not have other bases in the midwest, experimenting on Deathclaws with FEV? The Deathclaws in the midwest are obviously not of the same breed as the ones on the west coast, how is that contradictory? There are 200+ breeds of dogs in the world, not just one. Why should all deathclaws be exactly the same? They could have evolved on their own with a positive mutation, hypothetically.

The brotherhood timeline is fine. Anyone that says differently needs to put their taped up nerd glasses away.

One of the main problems with Tactics is not the events, but the fact that it abandoned all of the retro elements of previous Fallouts. It had none of the 1950s retrofuturism of previous games (and of Fallout 3). Nearly all of the weapons were either modern or from the WW2 era, instead of the weapons from Fallout's alternate future (although Fallout 2 is also guilty of that to a lesser extent).



The problem is not that they experimented with deathclaws elsewhere. The problem is that Tactics takes place before the Enclave even started to experiment with deathclaws.



They are said to come from a "military vault", which is not true.

Also, the developers of Tactics confused the Vault Boy with Pip-Boy.



I asked Emil and he confirmed that they consider the major, high-level events of Tactics canon.

...says the man at Bethesda Game Studios Forum...

Thanks Ausir. Thanks guys.

Yeah, I enjoyed Tactics. Despite some minor contradictions, I always thought the story was sound. When people started saying that it wasn't canon, I thought it was a shame because it was like they were disregarding a pretty interesting chapter in the Fallout universe.

But then I heard the FO3 reference to Chicago, and I wondered if they (Bethesda, the Fallout fan community, or whoever decides what's real and what's not) had changed their minds.

Thanks for the clarifications.

The problem most had with Tactis - go to point A, shoot, proceed to point B, shoot, proceed to point C. Pure and simple - it was nothing but a ridiculously linear isometric shooter, which is fine as a genre, but has nothing to do with RPG universe. Imagine your car stripped off tires and put on rails - chou-chou!

Im sure that the Fallout Bible says that Tactics is Canon in the parts that dont contradict earlier lore.

It was Fallout Brotherhood of Steel that was completely thrown out canonically. I think.

I meant from the lore standpoint, which is the issue here. Gameplay issues are another matter.