Mate, don't even get me started. They had artillery set-up at the Purifier but used it to attack the bridge and not the actual Pentagon itself.

Also when Liberty Prime comes out a Vertibird literally however right in-front of it to get destroyed - just so we can see how l33t he is. Because that's how a trained combat pilot would fly. Even more gauling is that where the Vertibirds designed then like they are now they'd have even less reason to lose.

Ah well, the Enclave were never going to win but all the Brotherhood of Steel will die in F4.

IMO the airship is from pre-war times, and thus the name is pre-war. Just a guess, it could be Lyons, hell, the Airship may not even be BoS at all. Who knows at this point. Who even knows about the year for sure, cuz we have a robot talking all "general shortening of words" that still gives exact temp of coffee to the tenth of a degree.

Two Brotherhood Initiates taken out with some kind of rocket launcher, one Brotherhood airship crashing in flames. Protagonist doing a happy dance in all three cases.

Possible meanings.

1. Botherhood are aholes and Protagonist is not.

2. Protagonist is an ahole and Brotherhood is not.

3. Protagonist AND Brotherhood are aholes.

4. Brotherhood is a faction you that you can choose to help, or not.

There is concept art from the presentation which has protag fighting along side BoS and dude in colonial times looking cap(which appears to be the NPC revealed today during the Microsoft conference).

Because it has a BoS logo on it for a start. Get over the years thing man, Jesus Christ.

Also, if the robot is so precise why isn't he more precise than a mere 200 years? Like no months or days or anything? Even the Robobrains in Vault 112 were that accurate.

uhhhh that kinda is my point, that it is being precise and 200 years is spot on, to the day.

also, I didn't see BoS symbol on the airship. Where that at?

NM I went back and saw it. Of course, MWBoS use same symbol so....still could be them. Could even have both faction in the game, if it is well after 2077.

/discussion

Those Mr. Handies never were all that bright. Robobrains can count and do simple math. A Mr. Handy... well...

Hold up one finger, a Mr. Handy says, "One".

Hold up two fingers, a Mr. Handy says, "Two".

Hold up three fingers, a Mr. Handy says, "Three"

Hold up four fingers, a Mr. Handy says, "Many"

Hold up a closed fist, a Mr. Handy says, "Few"

But Mister Handys are not there to be accurate... They are programmed to be symphatic. And it wouldn't make them symphatic if they were too accurate...

Look at all the people hating on the BoS. What they do not know is the BoS will RECK them. Glad to see the BoS in Fallout 4!

Doubtful, as has been pointed out the ship is a reference to Arthurian legend. The East Coast BOS has been the only Brotherhood faction to make use of that theme really.

If Mr. Handies are in the habit if asking male characters if they want a hysterectomy...

Well, just saying.

Looks like the BoS are potentially more white knights than ever before. King Arthur is now leads the BoS.

I can imagine it now. Arthur Maxton saying he based the ship off a story he read as a child.

Arthur Maxson isn't a really white knight child... I mean... he fell in love with Lyons... because she taught him to kill a man by stabbing him in the kidneys... Strange kid...

Arthur was named Arthur by his WC parents... Anyway, I hope it is not because this King Arthur garbage doesn't belong in FO. So hopefully the name of the airship is just a coincidence and something from pre-war.

Why should it be coincidently be named after the ship of King Arthur...? It's not a common name. It's clearly an Arthurian reference. And I don't see why it wouldn't fit into FO. FO was allways about cultural references.

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/King_Arthur%27s_Knights

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/King_Arthur%27s_Knights_fighting_a_rat

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Lancelot

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Grail_Squad

Congrats on posting special encounters, except for FO Tactics, one of which is Monty Python. All of those are WC and MW, so were you also trying to prove that the name of the ship could be from non Lyons faction, if we take special encounters to mean anything.

The references in 1 and 2 were jokes. Just like Star Trek. In 3, it wasn't a joke. But hey, you just proved with two tactics links the ship doesn't necessarily have to be from the CW.

The entire Arturian bs is only there in name. I can't remember any time when the BoS actually started actively referencing King Arthur, I basically played through the entire MQ without noticing it. Don't suppose it will be any different in FO4. Also, remember that people get creative when it comes to naming ships (consider too that BoS members likely have some education about pre-war culture), so a refernce to Arturian lore in such a context doesn't necessarily mean that they're gonna be [censored] about King Arthur all through the story.

I'm really hoping that BOS aren't the antagonists the East Coast BOS are so utterly paragon it would be hard to believe however I know this probably doesn't change anything but did anyone notice that the PC only fought BOS initiates?

If Arthur Maxson is running things and not Sarah Lyons, he may be following the ideals of his forefathers (hoarding pre-war tech) and not Elder Lyons ideals. I hope this is the case. But since he was basically raised by Lyons Pride and shunned by the main chapter, he may be continuing the "good fight" as Three Dog puts it. I don't know, the Outcasts make the most sense. They weren't wanted anymore in DC, they could have migrated north after hearing about the "Institute." I don't know we'll just have to wait and see.

It would be interesting to see a massive war/battle between the outcasts and the main chapter however I doubt that's a part of the premise of the game.

Yeah, I'm sure its just a complete coincidence. Bethesda had no idea that Prydwen was part of Arthurian Mythos and just chose it at random.

supposedly Mr Handy's are capable of maintaining themselves by essentially being able to repair another Mr handy, and replacing each others power cores when depleted if one is available, its entirely possible it was shut down (EMP or other similar effects, or ran out of power) and then restarted/repaired later and honestly does not know beyond a guesstimate

It doesn't matter if they were jokes or not.

The BoS has a clearly established history with Arthurian mythos, Easter egg or not. Not surprising given that their ranks are literally PALADINS and SCRIBES.

and even in Fallout 3, all the Arthurian stuff was basically just that, jokes and references. None of them actually acted/believed they were Arthurian knights seeking the grail or anything. Its just a continuance of a joke,