Simple yes or no poll. No option for people unable to make a judgment

I believe that they are not good for the future of the Mojave. All four of the main factions want them destroyed. Caesar requires it as does House. Yes man strongly suggests it but lets you make the call. The NCR Col. Moore sends you to kill them, you can, if you have done some quests for the BoS, suggest a truce but that is your action. It is not what the NCR wants you to do.

If everyone thinks that you are the problem then perhaps you are the problem.

In the Yes Man endings, after the NCR is sent packing, the BoS patrols the highways harassing travelers. Both McNamar and Hardin do this.

In the NCR ending, if you got the truce, the BoS patrols the highways. It does not say that they are looking for tech, it also does not say that they are their to protect people either.

How does the continued existence of the BoS benefit the Mojave?

In an independent Vegas protected by high tech improved Securitrons, how long would the BoS allow that to continue? The new upgraded securitrons would certainly qualify as high tech and would be a threat to the BoS. The courier would know where the BoS is located and would have a robot army capable of wiping them out at any time.

In an NCR ending the truce is temporary by definition, it is not a peace treaty. The war continues back in California. The current agreement was purely for coming together against a common foe, the Legion. Once that threat has been dealt with, how long do you imagine that the truce will hold? The location of the BoS bunker would be known, and Col Moore and others with her opinions, would no longer be threatened by the Legion. They would be free to take out the terrorists who destroyed the gold supply and the economy of the NCR. When the BoS inevitably comes into conflict with a major caravan company, the political machine of the NCR would come up with a reason to recommence hostilities.

Really? Not a biased poll at all. Let's put the No option and include it with calling them raiders. Raiders, being people who kill and murder people with no goal other than gaining wealth and power and taking anything with no remorse.

If you try to use a made up loose definition of a raider, then by that definition NCR and Legion are also raiders, as they take what they want without asking and do not care who gets stomped over.

I also love how people don't know what patrol means. Once again this comes up in yet a biased manner. Oh well we don't know! It just says patrol!

Also, forming a truce is not what Moore wants you to do, Moore, is not the NCR. Moore is a person in the NCR.

I will vote yes out of general principle that they are not raiders and because people don't know what patrol means. Not to mention calling them territorists now, too, for fighting in a war.

As in the previous Thread, evilbastrd, it depends why they are patrolling. I previously brought up the Powder Gangers, not as a comparison to the BoS but only because the Powder Gangers patrol the road also but to charge a toll backed up with theft and murder. It's not enough to just say "they're patrolling", you'd need to say why. Personally I cannot decide what they bring to the Mojave.

Col. Moore is the ranking member of the NCR and the person who gives you your missions. One must assume that she is directing you in a manner that is in alignment with the goals of the NCR. The NCR military falls under the control of the civilian government.

Blowing up the gold reserves with radioactive material in order to destroy the economy of the only functioning government in the world is an act of terror. It is designed to cause as much pain and suffering upon the civilian population as possible. Committing an act of terror makes you a terrorist.

You should learn what Total War is. Then, you need to learn that in Total War, the economy is MOST definitely a viable tactic in warfare. You may also want to read On War by Von Clausewitz. It is not an act of terror, it is an act of war.

Definition of patrol:

: to walk or go around or through (an area, building, etc.) especially in order to make sure that it is safe


The Powder Gangers are not on patrol. They are not within the definition and are a false example of comparison. A proper comparison would have been a comparison of NCR patrols on the roads. Say the one who walked around Searchlight.

Col Moore is the ranking officer at the Dam, not of the region. She is one individial of the NCR, yet you falsely said "NCR does not want". No, Moore does not want.

To give you a quick cliff note version:

In military operations, economic warfare is economic policy followed as a part of covert operations during wartime. The purpose of economic warfare is to capture critical economic resources so that the military and intelligence agencies can operate at full efficiency or deprive enemy forces of those resources so that they cannot fight the war properly.

The concept of economic warfare is most applicable to conflict between nation states, especially in times of total war - which involves not only the armed forces of an enemy nation, but mobilization of that nation's entire economy towards the war effort. In such a situation, causing damage to the enemy's economy directly damages the enemy's ability to fight the war. Some of the types or policies followed in economic warfare include blockade, blacklisting, preclusive purchasing, rewards and capturing of enemy assets.

Clear examples of economic warfare could be seen during World War II when the Allied powers followed these policies to deprive the Axis economies of critical resources. In turn, the Axis powers attempted to damage the Allied war effort via submarine warfare, and the sinking of supply ships carrying supplies, raw materials, and war related equipment.

Here endeth the lesson.

It depends on how things are resolved. With House or Legion they end up destroyed, with Independent they harass people for technology, with NCR they can be potentially made to do some good for the Mojave. Given the NCR is stretched thin in the Mojave, I suspect they'll see the Mojave Chapter as a useful asset so long as they behave themselves. That it inconveniences both Moore (because she's denied revenge) and Oliver (because he has to hand over his precious heavy troopers' salvaged power armor) is a bonus.

The Mojave Chapter, for its part, can either adapt and prosper under the NCR or perish along the other western chapters. It's up to them.

The axis leaders were tried and convicted of war crimes. If the axis powers had won there would have been a lot of war crime trials for the people who instituted the actions of total war such as Dresden, Tokyo incendiary raids, Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

How does one conduct total war against a small paramilitary outfit such as the BoS? By that rationale Al Qaeda is merely waging total war.

In the FO world there are no nations. There are tribes. Germany was not tried for their submarine attacks on economic targets. The fact remains within the context of what the FO World has become, the BoS NCR conflict is a war, and in such a war, economic targets are a viabletarget.

Now, tthe NCR can try to call itself a nation, but they are in reality just a giant tribe, who has no idea what is going on throughout the USA, letalone the world.

Raider:

:A person who attacks business premises in order to steal.

"masked raiders burst into the 100-seater restaurant"

So yes, in non-NCR endings they are raiders. One is excessive force IE: Banditry and the other is shakedowns IE: Strong-arm tactics.

You're cherry picking the NCR ending only because you know you can't defend their endings where they aren't kept in check by a government who will crush them if they tried that.