You just became a hypocrite. Or you were already, I didn't notice. Anyways, you say that something is not the worst of the series IS A FACT, then you go an say that's your opinion, it just makes you look like a complete idiot, as if you haven't already done that.

I've never heard the Brotherhood say that they were the self-appoints Knights of the Wasteland.

I wrote it so that I could calmly, logically make a case for Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel not being a terrible game. While I have had reasonable discussions with a couple people here, I was not prepared to face the CAPS-LOCK fury of ignorant 12 year-olds such as Undead Fiend. I wanted to share my experiences with a Fallout game that I find fun on a Fallout message board. I've enjoyed corresponding with people concerning a game I feel strongly about. What I do not enjoy is silly little kids like Undead Fiend getting angry that people disagree with them, and abusing the caps-lock key to try to articulate badly thought out contentions.


What? If you'd like to add something worthy of discussion to this topic, than please do. But if you are going to make incoherent rage-posts and incoherent unintelligible-posts than I must ask you to kindly leave. Unlike some people in this thread, you are clearly to young to be on this particular board, and you have clearly not played the game in question.


So you've never played Fallout 3? :wink_smile:

Nice try to burn me but nah. This thread has been nothing but a Flame war. So how bout we close this thread and you go take your arguements elsewhere. Oh yeah did I mention I've played it? Oh yeah I have and I hated it. It's one of the many reasons Interplay is broke trust me. My bad about the "The" there. It was the most Layman terms I can give. it's funny how you called me illiterate even though I'm the smart one in this.

Oh one more thing how old are you? Doesn't matter I posted my opinon and that's the way it's gonna stay. One more thing if you can even do it. Get me the list of the Reviewers thanks.

Just because SOMEONE USES CAPS LOCK LIKE THIS doesn't mean that they're 12 years old. I'm 13 and the only time I use caps lock in a full sentence is when raging when I die in Minecraft. OR MAYBE WHEN I FEEL LIKE BEING A HYPOCRITE. DEPENDS ON MY MOOD.
Anyways, if you made the thread to state how you liked Brotherhood of Steel and you think it's better than Tactics, then wtf were you expecting? You can't say that the game everyone here hates is better than something most people here like, and then expect people not go all :bonk: :flamethrower: :flamed: on you is ridiculous!

Doesn't count - and I would suspect that you realise this. In-fact if I'm reading the wikia correctly Rhombus deserts and goes against the orders of his superiors, making him about as Brotherhood of Steel as a common wastelander. Brotherhood members who grow ethics before running off are not reprentitives of the Brotherhood proper.

These are an off-shoot of the Western Brotherhood of Steel, the organisation itself was not established with being the Wasteland's defenders in mind.

And on another note I've often heard a lot of people cite that their opinions on Fallout 1 and 2 are valid because they are versed with a knowledge of their stories and canon, not ideal but I personally still accept it. Nobodies played Fallout: Extreme but I would hazard a guess that nobody would need too to formulate an opinion on that game.

No, it was a discussion until you starting [censored] the shift-key.

Yeah, I guess I should take my Fallout discussion to the Elder Scrolls board.

Clearly.

Trust you? What are you, CEO of Interplay? Trust me you don't know anything about the commercial success or lack thereof of Brotherhood of Steel, because its sales records were never released.

What?

"I'm the smart one in this." You're kidding me right? The irony of you bastardizing the English language in the same sentence of deeming yourself the "smart one in this" is palpable.

Ooookay? I'm 19, an advlt. You need to be an advlt to play the Fallout games, I don't think you're an advlt.

http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/rpg/falloutbrotherhoodofsteel/review.html?mode=web&tag=scoresummary%3Bcritic-score

I expected people on an advlt forum to act like advlts and be capable of discussing a video game without getting furious about it. Jeez, what was I thinking!?

Ok. A few of them are shut down. Another thing do you need a parent's permisson to play a Fallout game when your buying one. I do and guess what? My parents say yes. I'm equal to everyone on these Forums. Your a hypocrite,an moron, oh and last but not least you fail at trying to insult. So a final word Peace. At least I'm not a moron.

"AN MORON." You just called me an moron and in the same sentence you called me a hypocrite! The irony is KILLING ME!.

Since you clearly haven't fully understood my previous posts, I'll explain this to you.

I am not "an moron."http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/moron is the type of person who can't complete a sentence without a menagerie of spelling and grammatical errors. That is you.

I am not "a hypocrite." http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hypocrite is the type of person who criticizes others for being stupid while not knowing how to use the word "an" or how to properly contract sentences. That is you.

This is "ironic." http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Irony is when something happens that is the opposite of one's expectations. Such as when a moronic hypocrite calls someone less moronic and less hypocritical than them self a moronic hypocrite. That is what you have done.

This isn't a porm forum, it's a forum for discussing video games. You're gonna see people under 18 on a video game forum.

No the ratings are recomendations, you don't need to be an advlt. And it is 17+, 17 isn't an advlt. The only law is that game places can't sell the games to those who don't meet the requirement, unless the parent gives permission. You can't be taken to court because you played a mature game.


Bethesda forums are 13+ not advlt forums.

See? This is why the Burned Game is not spoken of in these forums. Its cursed and causes flame-wars to erupt in its wake, dividing the forums and causing chaos.

Repent sinners! :chaos:

Are you a [censored] idiot? 50's has everything to do with Canon and Fallout you are the worst debater I have ever met.

No I'm not an idiot. I've explained this already.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/canon, is not the same as style.

I seriously doubt I'm the "worst debater [you] have ever met." I did debate in high school and made it to regionals in my sophomore year.

Here are a few hallmarks of a bad debater:

Dropping a contention; my previous post contented that it was ironic how much of a moronic hypocrite you were, and you ignored (dropped it). In a debate, dropping a contention can lead to your opponent declaring victory.
Insulting your opponent; you were the first to start flinging personal insults. That is a foul in a debate.
Raising your voice; an old debate generalization says that "when someone raises there voice, it's because they haven nothing to say worth hearing." The same can be said for using caps-lock, which is the internet equivalent of yelling.
Trapping yourself in a logical contradiction; contradicting yourself can lead to loss early on in a debate. You have contradicted yourself many times over, such as when you called yourself smart in the same sentence where you used incorrect grammar. Or when you called me "an moron."

Kiddies like you don't know [censored] about debate.

Oh well excuse me for not being a Smart-ass. Oh did no one mention to you we have a different meaning of http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Canon I'm done. this was a pointless attempt. You overstepped yourself. You pretend you don't notice others posts that [censored] up your opinon. Whatever your the idiot. Not me.

You have seem to put yourself in a nice hole though, clearly no one on these forums enjoys the game, playing it or not. But you are trying to tell them that it isn't a bad game when they will never ever play it. Bethesda has also declared that it isn't canon, so continously saying that is doesn't break canon doesn't mean anything as it never happened.

You also use Fallout 3 as examples, but it is similar to BoS in a much less extreme manor. Bethesda added a lot of their own items and gear and did a lot of canon breaking stuff. Many of the "dinosaurs" dislikes this fact, but it doesn't mean Fallout 3 was a great game, hence the game of the year awards, so that can make up for many of its canon breaking aspects. Fallout BoS was a mediocre game with bad sales that broken canon in several places. EDIT: Such as the vault dweller, we are given that the vault dweller disappeared and didn't reappear. No other fallout protagonist has made an appearence after their original game so he shouldn't be the acception.

Nice hole? Surely you don't think that Undead Fiend is right? I made a topic to share my experiences about a Fallout game in a Fallout board, and for the most part it was successful. I don't mind having a heated debate with other die-hard Fallout fans about an often misunderstood installment in the series. What I do mind, is a mildly-illiterate little kid with a superiority complex starting a shouting match about it. What I mind even more, is said mildly-illiterate little kid contending that he is smarter than me because he says-so.

Until I get any further in the game, I don't know if there's much more to be said. I will continue to assert that BoS has never broken canon. It is quite possible that the Vault Dweller could have gone North, founded Arroyo, impregnated the Chosen One's grandmother, left his vault suit, then wandered south. If I get to have another chat with him in Chapter 2, I'll be sure to post it.

Nice hole as in no one will agree with you that it is decent, Stlyes response will probally be the closest you get. It is your opinion and I respect that. He never mentioned, well you may be right BoS could be good.

I have never played it nor do I plan to as I would have to find it on ebay or something. I have never even watched a trailer, my only experience is it being called the burned game and some info off the wiki, such as the vault dweller. Don't try to saude me with how I am wrong, because I have only said it isn't canon and breaks canon sometimes.

EDIT: I don't know if it says that the BoS in the game breaks away from the west-coast or not, so if they have not then allowing ghouls and outsiders into the BoS is against canon. Fallout Tactics and 3 has some background as to why, and I am unaware if the game explains something similar.

EDIT II: Also Vault-tec creating their own power armor. Power Armor is a west-tec thing which they alone know the answers to, and Enclave, but that is different.

I'm watching the trailer for the first time, all I can do is lol.

And this guy makes a good point that the girl must be over 100 if she was after the bombs fell and the game takes place in 2200 something?

Also it looks liken the Brotherhood is made up of mostly half naked chicks running around with guns and shooting people. But yes the story is much more better than Tactics right? <_<

And yet I ask again: How do you prefer this over Tactics?

1. Trailer is wrong. Disregard it, she was born well after the bombs fell.

2. The raiders are made up of probably 10% half naked chicks running around with guns and shooting people. This is not relevant to the story, it is stylistically bad though.

3. The gameplay is more intuitive (this is objective). The story is more reconcilable with existing canon (this is subjective).

Well right there you are saying the games own official trailer is bad/wrong. And the story is bad or the raiders? This begs me to ask how events in the game tie in better with canon?

Yes, the official trailer is wrong. It is openly contradicted by the manual, game guide, game, etc. The story is fine so far, the female raiders' designs, though, are clearly supposed to appeal to the console crowd (male teenagers). As of yet, I have not run into a single "canon-breaking" event.

Priceless.

Just because someone uses bad grammar on the internet doesn't automatically mean they're a [censored] child who is also dyslexic. If you truly believe then you are, in fact, an idiot. One person's internet personality usually does not reflect their real life personality.

You also seem to hold yourself extremely high above others, acting as if you were better than them and your opinion is fact while theirs is simply an opinion and is wrong.

And, Mr. Ego (as I shall now refer to you from now on in this post), people don't like the game. You seem to find something wrong with that. Maybe it's related to you holding yourself higher than everyone else as explained above, but I'm not a psychologist, so I wouldn't know. Point is, everyone's opinion matters just as much as yours and you need to realize that. Just because someone disagrees with you does not mean you need to make yourself look like an idiot in front the entire forum rage and flame at them. People think The Burned Game is a bad game, so what? Why do you give a crap? AND every time someone says something that proves you wrong in some way, you just skip over that and look for Undead Fiend's posts and continue to call him an illiterate child. By doing that, you're an ego-tastical ass you're showing that you thrive to be right no matter what. The game is not canon, you can't do anything to change that, and people here think the game is a stinking, steaming, rotting, ghoul assed, Super-mutant [censored], and again, you're not going to change that by arguing the game has barely any differences with canon and ignoring the posts that prove that you are wrong.