» Fri Jul 15, 2011 4:42 pm I took up using BTB's mod "BTB - Settings" which among other things sets the gain rate of miscellaneous skills to a rate of 100.0 in the GMST settings (which means you should never gain any miscellaneous skill increases).
The Issue:
Despite this I have the recurring bug wherein I continue to gain increases to my miscellaneous skills. Specifically this is most easily noticed in the Athletics skill. I'll load a new game, run about for a minute or so to test, and check the "Athletics" bar under the skill menu and see an increase there. I have discovered that reloading the game from a saved game seems to cause the miscellaneous skill to "fix itself" as I'll save, reload from the save, look at Athletics and it will appear to have reset to zero increase (I assume because the game consulted BTB's GMST change and realizing I'd only gained X amount of increase in the games internal record keeping of skill growth and changed the view accordingly. I also found in these cases that the mod also ceased to show increase in terms of the miscellaneous skill increasing over time in these cases. However, I still will reload games from saves and check athletics again and find it increasing yet again at other times.
I have placed BtB's Settings.esp at the very end of the load order (only Mashed Lists.esp is after it) and even gone over it using TESAME, TES Conflict Detector, and the construction set itself to confirm that the GMST for miscellaneous skill gain has been set in the fashion its suppose to.
I've also used the TES Conflict Detector program to check BTB's settings mod against every other plugin I'm using. With no conflicts occurring regarding the GMST's.
My understanding of modding in Morrowind is that it the BTB settings.esp should have overwritten anything above it. But I continue to get this effect and I'm at a total loss as to what is doing this?!
I have MCP 165 installed. I'm using the original Morrowind, plus Tribunal and Bloodmoon Expansions. Patched to the latest official update first, and also using a No-CD patch (so as to protect the CD from over use). I use Wyre Mash to organize my load list. I have applied Timeslip's exeoptimizer. Curiously I also found that my Morrowind.ini showed its game file list differently from my actually load order (what the Wyre Mash and the Launcher show at the load order).
Here is the order shown in my morrowind.ini file:
[Archives]
Archive 0=Tribunal.bsa
Archive 1=Bloodmoon.bsa
Archive 2=ConnaryTexturesv2.bsa
Archive 3=TR_Data.bsa
[Game Files]
GameFile0=Better Heads Bloodmoon addon.esm
GameFile1=Better Heads Tribunal addon.esm
GameFile2=Better Heads.esm
GameFile3=Bloodmoon Landscape Overhaul 1.0.esm
GameFile4=Bloodmoon.esm
GameFile5=Book Rotate.esm
GameFile6=GDR_MasterFile.esm
GameFile7=Imp Guard anticlone.esm
GameFile8=Morrowind Advanced.esm
GameFile9=Morrowind Patch 1.6.5 Beta (BTB Edit).esm
GameFile10=Morrowind.esm
GameFile11=Poorly Placed Object Fix 1.0.esm
GameFile12=Rise of House Telvanni.esm
GameFile13=Texture Fix 1.8.esm
GameFile14=Tribunal.esm
GameFile15=TR_Data.esm
GameFile16=TR_Map1.esm
GameFile17=TR_Map2.esm
GameFile18=abotSiltStridersTR.esp
GameFile19=abotTakeMyPlace.esp
GameFile20=Almalexia Armor (BTB Edit).esp
GameFile21=Animated Morrowind 1.0.esp
GameFile22=Animated Morrowind 2.0.esp
GameFile23=Antares' Creatures - Frost Giant.esp
GameFile24=Antares' Creatures - Trolls!.esp
GameFile25=Area Effect Projectiles (PAR Edit).esp
GameFile26=Ascadian Isles Dialogue.esp
GameFile27=AscendedSleeperSFX.esp
GameFile28=ASE Complete (BTB Edit).esp
GameFile29=Balmora Dialogue.esp
GameFile30=Better Bodies.esp
GameFile31=Better Clothes Complete (BTB Edit).esp
GameFile32=Better Skulls.ESP
GameFile33=BetterBooks_AlchFormfix.esp
GameFile34=Bigbluefin.esp
GameFile35=Blight Bounties.esp
GameFile36=Bloated Caves.esp
GameFile37=Book Rotate - Bloodmoon v5.3.esp
GameFile38=Book Rotate - Tribunal v5.3.esp
GameFile39=BTB - Alchemy.esp
GameFile40=BTB - Character.esp
GameFile41=BTB - Settings (Daggerfall Books Edit).esp
GameFile42=BTB - Spells.esp
GameFile43=BTB - Unique Finery Equipment.esp
GameFile44=Clean CB-illusionbolt1.0a.esp
GameFile45=Clean LGNPC - Ald Ruhn 1.20 (BTB Edit).esp
GameFile46=Clean LGNPC - Pax Redoran 1.20 (BTB Edit).esp
GameFile47=Clean LGNPC - Secret Masters 1.30 (BTB Edit).esp
GameFile48=Clean LGNPC - Vivec Foreign 2.10 (BTB Edit).esp
GameFile49=correctUV Ore Replacer 1.0.esp
GameFile50=Daggerfall Collection Ver 1.1 (BTB Edit).esp
GameFile51=dej_plain_paper_fix.esp
GameFile52=Divine_domina_part_1.esp
GameFile53=Divine_domina_part_2.esp
GameFile54=Divine_domina_part_3_Tribunal.esp
GameFile55=Divine_domina_part_4.esp
GameFile56=Divine_domina_part_5.esp
GameFile57=Djangos Dialogue.ESP
GameFile58=DM_DB Armor Replacer-ExpDDBA (BTB Edit).esp
GameFile59=DN-GDRv1 (HFP Edit).esp
GameFile60=DXM_masterindex_journalfix.esp
GameFile61=EcoAdjCrime (Tresspass Edit).esp
GameFile62=EcoAdjMerchantSkills (Disposition Edit).esp
GameFile63=EmmasDagonFel.esp
GameFile64=EmmasKhuul.esp
GameFile65=EmmasTelMora1_0.esp
GameFile66=Fligg's Slave Mod.esp
GameFile67=frostmoth_repaired_v0_31.esp
GameFile68=Full Paralysis.esp
GameFile69=Gondoliers.esp
GameFile70=Graphic Herbalism Extra.esp
GameFile71=Graphic Herbalism TR Extra.ESP
GameFile72=Graphic Herbalism TR.ESP
GameFile73=Graphic Herbalism.esp
GameFile74=Grave Goods.esp
GameFile75=Guars.esp
GameFile76=guarskin_drum_replacer.esp
GameFile77=Healers.esp
GameFile78=HospitalityPapers.esp
GameFile79=IceNioLivRobeReplacerALL (BTB Edit).esp
GameFile80=Illuminated Windows - Bloodmoon v1.2.esp
GameFile81=Illuminated Windows v1.2.esp
GameFile82=Illy's Fresh Faces.esp
GameFile83=Imp Guard anticlone BH add-on.esp
GameFile84=Improved_No_Glow_v1-MW_Trib_Blood.esp
GameFile85=Key Replacer Trib & BM.esp
GameFile86=Keyring.esp
GameFile87=kiasyd_magick_regenerator_1.4.esp
GameFile88=KS_Julan_Ashlander Companion_1.3.esp
GameFile89=Less Lore.esp
GameFile90=Less_Generic_Bloodmoon.esp
GameFile91=Less_Generic_Nerevarine.esp
GameFile92=Less_Generic_Tribunal.esp
GameFile93=LGNPC - Tel Mora 1.20 (BTB Edit).esp
GameFile94=LGNPC - Vivec Redoran 1.50 (BTB Edit).esp
GameFile95=LGNPC_Aldruhn_v1_20_suppl.esp
GameFile96=LGNPC_AldVelothi_v1_20.esp
GameFile97=LGNPC_GnaarMok_v1_20.esp
GameFile98=LGNPC_HlaOad_v1_32.esp
GameFile99=LGNPC_Khuul_v2_20.esp
GameFile100=LGNPC_MaarGan_v1_20.esp
GameFile101=LGNPC_NoLore_v0_83.esp
GameFile102=Lgnpc_SN.esp
GameFile103=LGNPC_SoulSicknessPatch_v1_00.esp
GameFile104=LGNPC_TelUvirith_v1_20.esp
GameFile105=Magical Missions.ESP
GameFile106=Mashed Lists.esp
GameFile107=Master Index Upgrade.esp
GameFile108=master_index.esp
GameFile109=Merged Objects - Clothing.esp
GameFile110=Merged Objects - Passive Wildlife and MW Advanced.esp
GameFile111=Moon-and-Star.esp
GameFile112=MW_Adv_PHW.esp
GameFile113=MW_Adv_Required (BTB Edit).esp
GameFile114=New Argonian Bodies - Mature.esp
GameFile115=New Corprus Stalker.esp
GameFile116=New Khajiit Bodies - Mature.esp
GameFile117=P.R.E. v4.0.esp
GameFile118=Passive_Healthy_Wildlife.esp
GameFile119=pcc_sotha_sound.esp
GameFile120=ProperLadies_1.1.esp
GameFile121=Protective Guards.esp
GameFile122=Quick Char.esp
GameFile123=Quieter_UI_Sounds.esp
GameFile124=Service Requirements (BTB Edit).esp
GameFile125=Siege at Firemoth.esp
GameFile126=Sleepers-fix.esp
GameFile127=sm_ForgottenHalls.esp
GameFile128=SR-Speechcraft What Not to Say.ESP
GameFile129=SSlave_Companions.esp
GameFile130=Starfires NPC Additions ver-1.11.esp
GameFile131=Talrivian's State-Based HP Mod v.2.2.esp
GameFile132=Texture Fix -TR -1.0.esp
GameFile133=The Neverhalls.esp
GameFile134=UL v2.0 RoHT v1.52 Compatibility.esp
GameFile135=UL_AshArmor_DivineDomina.esp
GameFile136=UL_MWSE_patch.esp
GameFile137=UL_Primus_MWSE.esp
GameFile138=Undead arise from death 3.0.esp
GameFile139=Unique Banners and Signs.esp
GameFile140=Universal Companion Share.esp
GameFile141=Uvirith's Legacy_Final_2.0.esp
GameFile142=Vality's Ascadian Isles Addon (Texture Fix Edit).esp
GameFile143=Vality's Bitter Coast Addon (Texture Fix Edit).esp
GameFile144=WA_Signy_Signposts(!).ESP
GameFile145=WA_Signy_Signposts(!)_TR.ESP
GameFile146=Westly's Master Headpack X.esp
That isn't the actual load order shown in the Launcher though. Is there a way to generate a list showing the correct order I'm actually using so I can post it up?
So I'm at a loss really as to why this is happening and what's causing it. I keep wondering if it is one of the "code altering" things I'm using like "No-CD patch" "Timeslip's exeoptomizer" "Morrowind Code Patch" etc. Can anyone help me with this annoying bug?
