Bug - Magicka regenaration from gear not working in combat

Post » Mon Dec 05, 2011 2:33 pm

Greetings.

Problem
Magicka regeneration gear does not work during combat. It does work out of combat. Tested and observed many times (see tests and observations below). Intended or bug?

I think I am experiencing a very game disturbing bug if you play a heavy mage playstyle. It seems that gear that gives bonus to magicka regen (like novice robes, 50% magicka regeneration bonus) work fine OUT of combat but stop working DURING combat.
I am writing here to get information : is this as designed? If not, post your feedbacks on if you experience the issue or not and let's get this fixed.

My setup.
I have Skyrim on Steam (if that matters)
I have an apprentice robe (75% bonus magicka regen) and an amulet (25% bonus magicka regen). I have the restoration magicka regen perk at rank 2 (50% bonus magicka regen).

Observations
Out of combat, my magicka regeneration is very fast. Regenerating almost faster than my costs.
During combat, it is extremely slow in comparison. I am constantly magicka starved. It seemed like my gear was not working.

Tests
I removed all my gear and fought naked. The magicka regeneration rate didnt change. I tried putting my magicka regen gear back on mid-fight. The magicka regenation did not improved and stayed very slow.
I also tried switching gear prior to engaging in fight just in case. Same results : there's no change to my magicka regeneration during combat wether I use bonus magicka regen gear or not. But i can clearly see the difference OUT of combat, where it's working fine.

This is extremely disturbing for a destruction mage. I run out of juice constatly for spells during fights and despite my investment in gear and perks, I can't improve my performanes agaisnt enemies as I level because of shortage of magicka.

Anyone who experiences this, please posts your details and let's get this investigated so we can all enjoy the mage path properly.
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Post » Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:27 pm

Magicka regenerates slower in combat no matter what armor or what no-armor you are wearing, from all I've seen.

It's strange though, that hihglighted part of your OP. :confused:
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Post » Mon Dec 05, 2011 2:17 pm

Magicka regenerates slower in combat no matter what armor or what no-armor you are wearing, from all I've seen.

It's strange though, that hihglighted part of your OP. :confused:


Maybe it regenerates slower in combat (a confirmation of if it's intended would be nice) but regardless of this, I find absolutely no difference to my magicka regen during combat without magicka regen gear or with it. That's the problem. Naked or with 150% gear magicka regen, my magicka regen is the same during combat.
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Post » Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:22 pm

Sorry for bumping this but I'd really like any kind of player feed back on this. I want to know if it's only me.

Anyone else playing mainly destruction mage? I'm level 20 now and I'm at a point where I have to constatly use melee weapons if I want to survive a fight with more than 2 enemies.

More info about my character setup. I have over 250 magicka, I have 150% magicka regen total. I have 27% less costs on my destruction spells (aprentice robe and destruction ring). I am now level 20. I have novice and apprentice destruction perks (those spells cost me half magicka). I fight using apprentice destruction spells (ice spike,s lgihtning bolt). I play on adept (normal) difficulty.

Despite all my perks and gear benefits, I am out of magicka after 2 standard enemies for my level. That in itself is not a real problem but In fights with 3 or more enemies, my magicka regen is so slow that I can't just run around waiting for it to recharge. The rate is too slow, I run out of stamina well before I have enough magicka to kill a 3rd enemy with spells alone, let alone a 4th.

I don't see what I can do more to make destruction fighting viable. Yet, as I level, the magicka regeneration problem of gear not working during combat (see my original post) force me to use weapons every fight.

Please, if any other people have trouble playing 100% mage (no weapon fighting), share your feedback here, specially if you too noticed that magicka regeneration gear is not working in combat.
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Post » Tue Dec 06, 2011 1:35 am

I'm playing pure Mage too, and I did think to myself that magicka regen gear doesn't seem to do too much in combat, after reading this I'm thinking it doesn't even work in combat!!! Not good.
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Post » Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:45 pm

I think that is kind of the point, you aren't supposed to be able to just [censored] everyone with your spells then wait a sec and do it again.
Use alchemy, its there for a reason. Make some Magicka potions.
Although I do agree the magicka regen gear should give you a little bit more regen in combat...
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Post » Mon Dec 05, 2011 4:32 pm

I think I currently have 250% regen and it most certainly does affect regen in combat. Because the base value for regen in combat is so low, lower levels of regen (like 75%) doesn't seem to do much, but it is helping.
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Post » Mon Dec 05, 2011 2:12 pm

I'm noticing the same thing. Usually magick starved and I have 100%+ regen hat, 100% regen chest, 25% resto, and Apprentice Stone (not sure how much this gives)

Combine this with the "meh" scaling of destruction on higher lvls I might just reroll a hybrid and play this save when mods come out.
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Post » Tue Dec 06, 2011 1:34 am

Yes yes yes yes! I had an interesting experience right after completing the arch Mage quest line. I was running around casting spells and my magicka bar was recharging very quickly! It was great I was casting with abandon and bodies were flying everywhere.

Then in one fight something changed. No poisons or whatever, but suddenly my recharge rate changed. All of a sudden I could only cast a couple spells before having to run around waiting for my magicka to recharge.

From your post, I surmise that somehow I was bugged and fighting as if outside of combat for sometime, so enjoyed the enhanced recharge rate. But that switched off and now I am stuck with the lower rate and it svcks! Tried changing gear around, nothing works. I think OP put the nail on the head...might as well wear heavy armor because the Mage gear isn't making much difference
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Post » Mon Dec 05, 2011 4:25 pm

Yes yes yes yes! I had an interesting experience right after completing the arch Mage quest line. I was running around casting spells and my magicka bar was recharging very quickly! It was great I was casting with abandon and bodies were flying everywhere.

Then in one fight something changed. No poisons or whatever, but suddenly my recharge rate changed. All of a sudden I could only cast a couple spells before having to run around waiting for my magicka to recharge.

From your post, I surmise that somehow I was bugged and fighting as if outside of combat for sometime, so enjoyed the enhanced recharge rate. But that switched off and now I am stuck with the lower rate and it svcks! Tried changing gear around, nothing works. I think OP put the nail on the head...might as well wear heavy armor because the Mage gear isn't making much difference


Exactly! I'm glad to see I'm not alone experiencing this.

There's no point to use the mage clothes at the moment with the way magicka regen works. They give no armor but their supposed benefit for magicka regen do not work during combat.

Using alchemy is not enough. As you level up, enemies gets more HP and are tougher. I used all ingredients and potions that could give me magicka in alchemy that I find and I collect everything. Alchemy can't help to keep up with scaling difficulty as you level.

My point remain : magicka regen on gear should affect combat magicka regeneration. After tests and from the other posts, I think we can assume it does not. Is it intended? If yes, maybe it should be reconsidered as with all the tools and gear and prks, you still can't do fights 100% through destruction (and why shouldnt you?). If it's a bug, let's get this fixed please so us mage player can enjoy our walkthrough.
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Post » Tue Dec 06, 2011 1:29 am

Also, magicka doesnt seem to regen if you have a "channeled" spell in your hands that your holding and waiting to blast someone with
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Post » Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:18 pm

Bugs should be filed in the bug section of the forum. It's gonna be the first place devs go to see where the problems lie and could be over looked in this section of the forum.
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Post » Mon Dec 05, 2011 11:30 pm

I play on master and tend to starve out an entire bar of magicka doing negligible damage to leveled bandits :laugh:

Enemy spell casters has seemingly much faster recovery on magicka though, despite spending every levelup on magicka.
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Post » Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:54 pm

Early on I used to feel that way also, but now My mana bar fills from 0-100% in a matter of 5-6 secs. Even after storm boosted splls that drain alot. Usually no enemies left at that point to be in combat.
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Post » Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:10 pm

Contrary to some others, I hope this isn't a bug, but it would be very nice if there was a patch that made your gear/perks regen magicka in combat by i.e. half of the percentage of what it regens outside combat.
So with +200% regen rate outside combat, you would get +100% in combat.

Some point of views on this would be nice, as I would gladly request this in an email to Bethesda :)
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Post » Tue Dec 06, 2011 2:19 am

Contrary to some others, I hope this isn't a bug, but it would be very nice if there was a patch that made your gear/perks regen magicka in combat by i.e. half of the percentage of what it regens outside combat.
So with +200% regen rate outside combat, you would get +100% in combat.

Some point of views on this would be nice, as I would gladly request this in an email to Bethesda :)


I understand your point of view. I think a better and easier solution for you would be to raise the difficulty of the game. That way you get a higher challenge and your magicka will give less for your bucks even if the magicka regen from gear works in combat and those playing on normal will be able to do 100% spell combats if they want.
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Post » Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:42 pm

I noticed the same thing...
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Post » Mon Dec 05, 2011 12:13 pm

Yeah, I have the exact same problem. Necromancer's robes (75% boost) and some other low level regeneration stuff, and in combat I'm screwed. I can smoke Ice Sabers (or whatever they are) from a long way away in like 10 seconds, as this doesn't seem to activate the combat system, but up close and personal I can cast like 2 spells before I have to run like a chicken with my head cut off while my mana bar refills at a snails pace. Certain quests where you have to confront multiple NPC's in tight quarters I have just had to put off until later, after I died like 20 times. Playing on Adept, if that matters.
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Post » Mon Dec 05, 2011 3:40 pm

The Altmer Highborn power DOES work in combat, however. Quite well. But only once per day. :(
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Post » Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:48 pm

This does sound like a bug, so it should be moved to the appropiate forums.
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Post » Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:42 pm

This does sound like a bug, so it should be moved to the appropiate forums.


if it isnt a bug, then it needs to be clearer to state magick regeneration ( out of combat ) 100% etc.

I too have noticed it doesnt go up when in combat but shoots right up out of combat :)
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Post » Mon Dec 05, 2011 11:39 am

No wonder I felt like I wasn't progressing as a mage and opted for a dual wielding, light armour Altmer instead. If this is intentional, it's even MORE crappy and illogical!
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Post » Mon Dec 05, 2011 3:11 pm

I have a hard time believing this is a bug. Out of combat regeneration gets up to ridiculous levels pretty quickly. They hand out +100% gear like it's going out of style. I can only assume it's intended to be of little use.
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Post » Mon Dec 05, 2011 10:15 pm

The magic regen gear works its just the base value of magic regen (3-4%) is cut by half in battle.
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Post » Mon Dec 05, 2011 12:08 pm

Yes yes yes yes! I had an interesting experience right after completing the arch Mage quest line. I was running around casting spells and my magicka bar was recharging very quickly! It was great I was casting with abandon and bodies were flying everywhere.

Then in one fight something changed. No poisons or whatever, but suddenly my recharge rate changed. All of a sudden I could only cast a couple spells before having to run around waiting for my magicka to recharge.

From your post, I surmise that somehow I was bugged and fighting as if outside of combat for sometime, so enjoyed the enhanced recharge rate. But that switched off and now I am stuck with the lower rate and it svcks! Tried changing gear around, nothing works. I think OP put the nail on the head...might as well wear heavy armor because the Mage gear isn't making much difference



I had this happen too during the mage line quest, I'm fairly sure it is from when you cleanse the magic sources for the illusion master. At some point you quietly get a buff during that quest which I'm fairly sure is the cause of the massive regen rate.
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