So called "Epic battle"?

Post » Thu May 03, 2012 5:14 am

Well for one, doesnt matter how good the AI is, if you can one shot an enemy on the hardest difficulty who is supposed to be hard, it pretty much svcks. A lot of health sometimes is a good thing, I like enemies who can take a hit, or quickly heal said hit. Its why I liked the Ulysses fight, he wasn't something we hadn't already faced HP wise, but he did freaking heal a lot which made it difficult to pin him.
-If the AI had been better he would have set sentries, tripwires, infarred alarms ect and he sure as [censored]e wouldnt be standing with his back against the only entrance in the building. So no. Dont buy into the bulletsponge thing. Have him heal and react as I do. But no bullet spongeing thing. Puuuureeeze.
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 6:49 pm

Im sorry but if you dont think Normal is too easy then your character is a weakling which should be obvious to any casual player, no?
I don't think normal is too easy or too hard. It just is.

My NV character uses nothing but a sniper rifle with standard ammo, and the only thing she wears is a field hand outfit. So not only am I a casual gamer, you might even say I have a casual character.

Pro-tip: I don't care about labels like 'weakling'. Most girls don't obsess about strength and skill like guys do.

So, no. Your subjective personal opinion, like the original poster of this thread, is not an absolute, indisputable fact that applies to everyone.
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 10:14 pm

I don't think normal is too easy or too hard. It just is.

My NV character uses nothing but a sniper rifle with standard ammo, and the only thing she wears is a field hand outfit. So not only am I a casual gamer, you might even say I have a casual character.

Pro-tip: I don't care about labels like 'weakling'. Most girls don't obsess about strength and skill like guys do.

So, no. Your subjective personal opinion, like the original poster of this thread, is not an absolute, indisputable fact that applies to everyone.

You're a member of a Fallout forum so you're not a casual gamer by definition.
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 11:15 pm

not saying the OP did or didn't kill in 2 shots, but you have to add every perk that adds a bonus to vats If someone took all vats related perks and had 100 skill and got a sneak attack crit, plus drugs. then it may be possible.

I am thinking it is possible, but the conditions would have to be right.
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 9:49 pm

Im sorry but if you dont think Normal is too easy then your character is a weakling which should be obvious to any casual player, no?

Normal is a little too easy, but the alternative is to have enemies just have more HP, which isn't really any harder at all, just kind of annoying.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 6:14 am

Normal is a little too easy, but the alternative is to have enemies just have more HP, which isn't really any harder at all, just kind of annoying.

Their weapons also do a lot more damage to you. It's more like their equipment is in maximum condition.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 8:02 am

You're a member of a Fallout forum so you're not a casual gamer by definition.
Yeah....no. By definition, you're wrong. Please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamer.

Again, your subjective opinion is not a fact.

I'm gonna go ahead and add you to my blocked list now. I generally don't argue with teenagers, trolls, etc. Have fun.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 4:08 am

On Rushing Water and Implant GRX I put so many .45 Auto Supers into him he exploded from the epic quality of the battle, not the bullets.
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 9:06 pm

Yeah....no. By definition, you're wrong. Please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamer.

Again, your subjective opinion is not a fact.

I'm gonna go ahead and add you to my blocked list now. I generally don't argue with teenagers, trolls, etc. Have fun.

Go and ahead and block. I dont even know what you're [censored]in about, but ok.. By your own admission you have a weak character because you dont care about things like that and that's fine. You even said only guys care about building a powerful character, so let me be a guy ok? Your link is bogus by the way.
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 11:44 pm

Everyone knows the battle should go like this:
1. Shoot Ulysses' 12mm SMG, AMR and take them.
2. Ulysses must now use Old Glory
3. Equip Katana
4. ?
5. Epic Battle (as epic as gamebryo gets)
Getting into melee range should force Ulysses into melee combat
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 11:13 pm

"you have a weak character because you dont care about things like that"
-I did lol. Not with you... but at you.

Weakness is usually a label thrown around by people who think with their knuckles or their reactions. Not with people who utilize whats between the ears. Strenght is power. Not physical strenght. In real life those with physical strength and good reactions work for those who have have achieved power by means of intellect, cunning... finance and politics. And it was allways so.. The guy who was strong but couldnt make fire froze to death. The guy who could make fire became king of those that could not. And this will never change.


On a personal note, this argument remind me of a time where a mate came to our rugger (rugby) team and told us some prissy dimwitted knuckledragger had been boasting how Amerian footie guys would crush a rugger team. So we put him to the test. And we ran cycles around them, Big guys in "power armour" was nowhere as fast and as tactical as guys who work as a team and work intelligently. Sure we [censored] got crushed sometimes, but we crushed back and we won. They played with their "protection"... we played with shin-guards, teethprotectors and boots. And whilst we had all been playing for some time... we were not that good.

All due respect for your American footie guys. We most likely would not have won vs comparative US collage footie team... but we beat those guys. And we were nerds... gluttons for pain nerds but still nerds. :D.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 3:21 am

I beat him with three punches. First was normal, second knocked him down and the third one threw him into the silo. Battle took like 10 seconds but I don't blame it since it was rather unintended. Just got lucky I guess.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 7:15 am

-I did lol. Not with you... but at you.

Weakness is usually a label thrown around by people who think with their knuckles or their reactions. Not with people who utilize whats between the ears. Strenght is power. Not physical strenght. In real life those with physical strength and good reactions work for those who have have achieved power by means of intellect, cunning... finance and politics. And it was allways so.. The guy who was strong but couldnt make fire froze to death. The guy who could make fire became king of those that could not. And this will never change.

On a personal note, this argument remind me of a time where a mate came to our rugger (rugby) team and told us some prissy dimwitted knuckledragger had been boasting how Amerian footie guys would crush a rugger team. So we put him to the test. And we ran cycles around them, Big guys in "power armour" was nowhere as fast and as tactical as guys who work as a team and work intelligently. Sure we [censored] got crushed sometimes, but we crushed back and we won. They played with their "protection"... we played with shin-guards, teethprotectors and boots. And whilst we had all been playing for some time... we were not that good.

All due respect for your American footie guys. We most likely would not have won vs comparative US collage footie team... but we beat those guys. And we were nerds... gluttons for pain nerds but still nerds. :D.

Right...
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 6:37 pm

The overall game engine doesn't really allow for epicness in one on one fights, it's only in massive battles e.g. Hoover Dam where you get epic game play. If you could go into a fighting mood e.g. with more control then that would be awesome and make one-on-one battles more epic but Fallout isn't about that. It is and always be a thinking Roleplaying game based on atmosphere.. That's why I always play a charismatic charecter because I think the overall game play just works better that way. So there are never going to be epic battles and I do personnally think that Lonesome Road was a let down, but still overall the epicness is story based and I wouldn't want it any other way.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 4:07 am

First was normal, second knocked him down and the third one threw him into the silo.

THIS .. IS .. THE DIVIDE!
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 10:35 pm

-I did lol. Not with you... but at you.

Weakness is usually a label thrown around by people who think with their knuckles or their reactions. Not with people who utilize whats between the ears. Strenght is power. Not physical strenght. In real life those with physical strength and good reactions work for those who have have achieved power by means of intellect, cunning... finance and politics. And it was allways so.. The guy who was strong but couldnt make fire froze to death. The guy who could make fire became king of those that could not. And this will never change.


On a personal note, this argument remind me of a time where a mate came to our rugger (rugby) team and told us some prissy dimwitted knuckledragger had been boasting how Amerian footie guys would crush a rugger team. So we put him to the test. And we ran cycles around them, Big guys in "power armour" was nowhere as fast and as tactical as guys who work as a team and work intelligently. Sure we [censored] got crushed sometimes, but we crushed back and we won. They played with their "protection"... we played with shin-guards, teethprotectors and boots. And whilst we had all been playing for some time... we were not that good.

All due respect for your American footie guys. We most likely would not have won vs comparative US collage footie team... but we beat those guys. And we were nerds... gluttons for pain nerds but still nerds. :D.

I didn't see the post you replied to, but that's a great point and great story. Thank you.

I can count on both hands the number of video games I've played around with and enjoyed so much I actually finished them. Those I love enough to play endlessly I can count on one hand. Fallout is one of them.

Being out of college and out of work left me bored, so I've been lurking forums. The one striking difference in mentality I've noticed beteen a lot of people are those who say they 'played' a game, and those who say they 'beat' the game.

I'm in it for the sensory experience, preferably with a range of emotions to go with it. Calculating maximum character outputs to completely dominate opponents is a mentality I don't relate to. Nor can I relate to insulting those who don't.
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 7:39 pm

And it's better that way. I think that's how it was intended for you to be playing. Dont let the term "Normal" confuse you. That's just a setting for people who build up a weakling character.

Interesting.

I play on Normal (i.e.: "weakling") mode. Here's what my character looked like when I fought Ulysses (the stuff that matters):

Level 28
Guns 100
Strength 8, Endurance 8, Agility 8, Luck 9
Grunt, Commando, Finesse, Better Criticals, Math Wrath, Action Boy, Toughness

I was using an Assault Carbine. I shot a Med-X, a Buffout, a Slasher, and a Steady. I was wearing the Elite Riot Armor, 1st Recon Beret, and the Rebreather.

The fight with Ulysses took me 10 minutes. I aimed for his head every single time, using VATS for most of the fight. I used thirty stims and I watched that s-o-b run away and heal himself six times (all when I had him so gd close to death). Then Ed-E died and I couldn't use VATS any longer. That was fun.

I guess it only took that long because I was using a weakling character, on weakling mode, eh?
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 10:48 pm

Interesting.

I play on Normal (i.e.: "weakling") mode. Here's what my character looked like when I fought Ulysses (the stuff that matters):

Level 28
Guns 100
Strength 8, Endurance 8, Agility 8, Luck 9
Grunt, Commando, Finesse, Better Criticals, Math Wrath, Action Boy, Toughness

I was using an Assault Carbine. I shot a Med-X, a Buffout, a Slasher, and a Steady. I was wearing the Elite Riot Armor, 1st Recon Beret, and the Rebreather.

The fight with Ulysses took me 10 minutes. I aimed for his head every single time, using VATS for most of the fight. I used thirty stims and I watched that s-o-b run away and heal himself six times (all when I had him so gd close to death). Then Ed-E died and I couldn't use VATS any longer. That was fun.

I guess it only took that long because I was using a weakling character, on weakling mode, eh?

Yup..
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 6:45 pm

Yup..

Ah, so very illuminating.

How about, for redundancy's sake, you go ahead and explain how it is that my character is a weakling then?

edit: Even better, how about *your* version of a *strong* character?
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 5:06 am

Ah, so very illuminating.

How about, for redundancy's sake, you go ahead and explain how it is that my character is a weakling then?

edit: Even better, how about *your* version of a *strong* character?

Im just [censored]in with you man, relax. :foodndrink:
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 5:00 pm

lmfao, wow im been enjoying reading this. on the offtopic of weak charectors, sigh i am one of them :drool: I to find the game as far as combat to to be easy, btu thats just me. Im one of those that gimp his charector as far as playstyle. its my playstyle if u dont do it that way...ok i dont care just like yal shouldnt care how i play and vice versa. pretty much my toons a beast bc its all onme and not the skills/perks/etc, ....bah i dunno what im talking about or too lol. just pretty much messed up right, signing out.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 6:36 am

Ah, so very illuminating.

How about, for redundancy's sake, you go ahead and explain how it is that my character is a weakling then?

edit: Even better, how about *your* version of a *strong* character?
One that does not use Chems or Crits!
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 4:51 am

One that does not use Chems or Crits!

Touche!

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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 5:44 pm

Touche!

:clap:
I don't use armor, just a field hand outfit (partially because it's so cute, and partially because all those pockets are the only thing that makes sense in my head for carrying all the food items I do). If I'm forced to fight something really bad, I'll wear a generic combat helmet. The way it looks with my outfit makes me laugh every time.

I only use sniper rifles. I haven't really had a chance to use Christine's yet, because I didn't find it until I was mostly done with OWB. I don't fully understand the stats you guys talk about, but I hope it's neato. If I'm in tight quarters, I use Pew Pew, because the name is so awesome and because I like the bent nail hammered into it. Doesn't get much grittier than that.

I've only taken 'character' type perks, like Nuka Chemist. I never use drugs, because Just Say No To Drugs. I've played the entire game on hardcoe only, and completed all quests except those for Legion.

Some of the fights can feel almost impossible. I know I'm a 'weakling' but I still have tons o' fun. That's all that matters to me. I love Fallout.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 12:12 am

While I can't exactly comment on the Ulysses' physical fight as I always side with him, I must say the verbal acrobatics throughout the DLC are very satisfying.

As for actually epic fights because of the DLC, excluding anything like the irradiated Deathclaws or Rawr, I swear the battle with Gaius Magnus is probably the most impressive fight I've had in the whole game. It was like a massive game of stamina really since he healed faster than I could damage him with the majority of my weapons so it became a really long game of crippling his limbs and destroying each weapon as he picked them up. Cass and Ed-E went down fairly quickly so they weren't a whole lot of help and all the while I had to try and clear out of the lesser irradiated Legion members as well. Many bullets and RadAways later I finally switched to the shoulder mounted machine-gun and just dumped as many rounds into him as I could til he went down. The fight lasted around an hour I think and it was absolutely amazing. :D

@Vault Girl: I may not be the number guru that the folk here are, but I can hands down say that Christine's sniper rifle never leaves my side after picking it up in OWB. Saved my life countless times, especially in LR.
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