The producers were creating a hype in the other DLC's about the "epic battle" between the courier and ulysses, buuuuut .. when you can kill ulysses with one shot from the holofifle even before he draws hes weapon .. you can't call that epic. You can call the person who killed ulysses epic, but not the fight. What do u think?

I think you shouldn't play on Very Easy difficulty.

Pretty sure there's over a dozen videos of people getting headshot crits with endgame weaponry (AMR, Ballistic Fist, Knock-Knock, YCS/186) on normal difficulty and Ulysses takes it like a champ, then quickly heals it back up. On Very Hard, one shotting him might actually be impossible; not sure. Maybe a Fatman could.
The situation you're describing seems impossible by my calculations unless you use a sneak attack headshot crit with max charged Microfusion cells, or you're on very easy difficulty.

Stop playing on easy nub

Sorry for my launguage - But STF!

I played on normal, used a slasher, energycell max charge, energy skill 100, and a fully-repaired holo-rifle

probably supposed to be an epic battle of words, i mean yeah you can cap his ass...takes a long time but you can, or you can talk him down and have a pretty cool fight with ulysses and the marked men.

The second I can top that guy, I will.

I doubt it but if its that easy on than play it on hard or very hard but don't complain about it being to easy unless you played it on the hardest difficulty.

(102 - 8) * 1.5 * 1.25 * 2 * 2 * .90 = 635 damage

Ulysses has 1060 health. And 18 DT. And 10% damage resistance. That number above includes everything but a sneak attack crit and Psycho (Psycho really wouldn't matter), and if it were on Very Easy, it would be multiplied x2, which would do the job. If you had played on Very Hard, you'd only deal 317 damage with such a shot.

Where is duh missing mathz?

+ critical hit.

That's already in the equation. So is headshot.

I know it's a little too late, but it was 2 shot's. Sorry ..

I just remembred that i entered vats, and when it closed he was dead.

Wow...This thread was an interesting read.

EDIT : Everyone is right...until proven wrong.

You was playin on Very Easy. I cant even one shot most of the creatures in the Mojave on Very Hard with the Holorifle.


I dont think you're supposed to be playing on Normal or even Hard by that time. How you come here complaining about the fight being too easy when you say you only faught him on Normal?

Whats the point of making your enemy stronger than he is by default... especially when making him stronger doesnt mean beefing up his AI but merely making him more of a bulletsponge?

Have you noticed that when you kill an NPC their armor and weapons are in poor to mediocre condition? Raising the difficulty offsets that by making it more like their equipment is at maximum condition.

I dunno about the OP, but when i fought Ulysses on Very hard I had managed to get him down to like 36 HP, then I got distracted by an eyebot for a second, and when I went back to fighting Ulysses he had gotten his health back up to 769.

And it's better that way. I think that's how it was intended for you to be playing. Dont let the term "Normal" confuse you. That's just a setting for people who build up a weakling character.

-Which has rarely any influence on the individual conflicts I am in because I usually attack from sneak. And I am rather sick of of having to pump 4-6 plus JHP's into another humans skull when in reality it would take one and one only. The better armor would make for more caps... caps I dont need because I am allready lugging around 215.000 caps at lvl 26.... and I have only been in HH and done a handfull of the sidequests. And there is nothing in the game that costs a million caps or I can use the caps for. So... still redundant and yes I played the game and the dlcs on hardcoe, and didnt find the challenge rewarding enough on "Hard". It just makes the mobs ammo sinks.

Everyone knows the battle should go like this:
1. Shoot Ulysses' 12mm SMG, AMR and take them.
2. Ulysses must now use Old Glory
3. Equip Katana
4. ?
5. Epic Battle (as epic as gamebryo gets)

How is that a bullet sponge? If you wanna see a bullet sponge play FO3. Here? Enemies simply deal twice as much, you deal half. Twice as many bullets, which considering just about anything can be one-shot on normal, isn't very much. I can still one-shot a deathclaw on very hard, but it demands a decent weapon and a headshot, which imo, is far better than Normal difficulty, where as long as I hit their giant body, I'm good to go.

It especially makes it interesting when the Divide deathclaws WILL oneshot you, so you better kill them before they reach you.

Love it when those that play on VH setting thinks their opinions matter more than others who don't.

Well for one, doesnt matter how good the AI is, if you can one shot an enemy on the hardest difficulty who is supposed to be hard, it pretty much svcks. A lot of health sometimes is a good thing, I like enemies who can take a hit, or quickly heal said hit. Its why I liked the Ulysses fight, he wasn't something we hadn't already faced HP wise, but he did freaking heal a lot which made it difficult to pin him.

@the guy above me, where do you get off. Its one thing if you complain about difficulty and you have merrit. But when you say, oh the fight was too easy, and you aren't playing on very hard your argument becomes invalid because you yourself made the fight easy. Ulysses compared to even Lanius is one tough bastard. On very hard you have to be very careful almost all the time. If your playing on normal and killed him easily, you have no right to complain as you can simply slide the slider from normal or very easy to very hard. I like how people who know they are wrong think they have an actual valid reasoning and get mad when other's prove them otherwise.

Seriously? I consider it the default for people who have a life outside of obsessing over character builds. Like myself.

Way to needlessly insult casual rec gamers everywhere. Up until now I thought you were cool, too.

I've played it on Very Hard ever since Fallout 3, just because I thought the game was too easy. I haven't ever played this one on Normal. No obsessing over character builds for me.

On topic, that battle was very chaotic, and I kept losing Ulysses in the fray and accidentally shooting Ed-E.

Im sorry but if you dont think Normal is too easy then your character is a weakling which should be obvious to any casual player, no?