Can anyone explain why there are no spears?

Post » Sun Jun 26, 2011 5:53 am

Im not trolling or anything, Id just like to be told a genuine reason why spears arent going to be in this game. Spears is like the 3rd most popular weapon, aside from swords and arrows, and youd certainly need a spear when fighting a bloody dragon! Why not?
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Gavin Roberts
 
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Post » Sun Jun 26, 2011 10:13 am

The dev is lazy
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Daniel Brown
 
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Post » Sun Jun 26, 2011 11:32 am

to piss you off
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ijohnnny
 
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Post » Sun Jun 26, 2011 6:24 pm

Spears would be nice, i agree, but maybe it was a balancing problem?
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Roddy
 
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Post » Sun Jun 26, 2011 12:38 pm

No idea. Some say it is overpowered. For me, if they can't make it throw-able, I don't see what use it has. Also flails.
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Ricky Rayner
 
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Post » Sun Jun 26, 2011 10:38 am

Because no other game has them?
Hard to implement properly?
They just don't like spears?
Just to piss you off?
Spears are overrated?
Because casual players hate spears?
Because of consoles?
Because they're superfluous?
...
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Charlotte Henderson
 
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Post » Sun Jun 26, 2011 8:28 am

I don't know man, I don't know.

Oh spear, wherefore art thou.
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Brιonα Renae
 
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Post » Sun Jun 26, 2011 8:56 am

Whole set of animations for one weapon.
Very easy to abuse in MW
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sas
 
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Post » Sun Jun 26, 2011 8:46 pm

Because no other game has them?


:stare: Morrowind?
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leigh stewart
 
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Post » Sun Jun 26, 2011 6:52 pm

Because there are no Spears in Skyrim period.

no its not because their are too many Anims

No its not beacuse they "can't" do it, they did Dragons...they can't do spear? :bonk:

no its not because they are lazy (Dragons 2 years)

no its not because its imbalancing (Arrows/swords/shields are imbalanced?)


its nothing beyond no its just not in Skyrim....thats it.
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luis ortiz
 
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Post » Sun Jun 26, 2011 6:17 pm

The dragons felt it would be unfair, and threatened to not appear in the game again unless they were removed.
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Chris Ellis
 
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Post » Sun Jun 26, 2011 2:25 pm

Because too many choices hurt certain people's brain

Got to keep the options down
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Harinder Ghag
 
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Post » Sun Jun 26, 2011 9:22 am

balance issues
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Emmi Coolahan
 
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Post » Sun Jun 26, 2011 8:16 am

No its not beacuse they "can't" do it, they did Dragons...they can't do spear? :bonk:

lol I also love how people act like this is the case :laugh:
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Post » Sun Jun 26, 2011 8:28 am

most likely because they dont want to do any other weapon animations
the basic hack n' slash works for all the others, but spears would need a new animation like thrusting
and maybe balancing issues
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BRAD MONTGOMERY
 
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Post » Sun Jun 26, 2011 3:41 pm

Oblivion had no spears and it got a higher rating than Morrowind.
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Laurenn Doylee
 
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Post » Sun Jun 26, 2011 2:58 pm

Oblivion had no spears and it got a higher rating than Morrowind.




so... Im pretty sure your not saying but assumptions make asses out of people so Im going to ask..are you implying...Oblivion got higher ratings (like that matters from two different games of different time period) because it didnt have spears?
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Post » Sun Jun 26, 2011 6:41 pm

so... Im pretty sure your not saying but assumptions make asses out of people so Im going to ask..are you implying...Oblivion got higher ratings (like that matters from two different games of different time period) because it didnt have spears?


I could be wrong, but I believe they are being facetious.
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Post » Sun Jun 26, 2011 6:52 am

Oblivion had no spears and it got a higher rating than Morrowind.


Too bad the majority of morrowind players on this forum say otherwise (Note: I've played both and prefer oblivion)
Ratings tell nothing most of the time. On Metacritic, Modern Warfare 2 got a 95! (Note: MW2 svcks it major)
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Michael Russ
 
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Post » Sun Jun 26, 2011 10:38 am

Because anonymous hacked them and removed them
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Post » Sun Jun 26, 2011 1:03 pm

Because anonymous hacked them and removed them

no it was lulzsec
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Mr. Ray
 
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Post » Sun Jun 26, 2011 8:42 am

Dear lord, he was being sarcastic.

Bethesda have come up with a simple solution to specific weapons, grouping them into either one handed or two handed weapons, so if people REALLY did want spears, modders dont have to go through the headache of trying to add new skills into the game, id expect adding new perks is much easier, though only time will tell.

Id imagine its extremely difficult to set a precedent of "You ask for it, we will add it", with a game that requires quite a bit of memory to do its business, its also a pain in the ass to create so many models, then making unique ones and different types of metal/glass/daedric whatever.

If someone asks for spears, why not the hundreds of other different types of weaponry?
Which would ultimately translate into thousands if not tens of thousands of models to create, DO YOU WANT THE GAME TO EVER COME OUT?
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Post » Sun Jun 26, 2011 9:11 am

To be honest? I don't know. They are a common weapon, especially were among the poorer warriors due to them being in-expensive and makes sense in TES for them to be common as well for that same reason as well. I highly doubt it's because of animations as animations aren't as big of an issue this time around. I don't think it's a problem with them being overpowered or anything, I can see why they were in Morrowind because you could backpedal at the same speed as moving forward so you could continually keep your distance which spears require to be effective, but they fixed that issue with Skyrim, i.e. slower move speed while moving backwards. I think it's just a matter of they don't have them just because they don't. Aside from the few most asked weapons that aren't making it in, or at least haven't been confirmed whether or not their in, Crossbows, Spears, Flails, there are still plenty of weapons that are most likely not making it in that could still fit within the game's world. For example, throwing axes/hammers, javelins, balistaes/trebuchets/catapults (though not portable can still be mounted defensive weapons for protecting populated areas), scythes, sickles, war picks, slings (sort of fit). There are all sorts of medieval era weapons, but they aren't including them all, though spears of all of them is still one of the most commonly used weapons during the medieval times as I already mentioned, because they were cheap to make and were effective, so why they aren't in? I think really it's more along the lines of distinguishing between close and long range. In TES you have your long range combat: bows, spells, and close range: touch spells, swords, axes, hammers, clubs, daggers. Spears are reasonably longer ranged than any of the weapons used in close range combat, but not long enough reach for long range combat so it's on its own. Unless they have pole-arms of some kind in, then of course that wouldn't be the reason, if that's the case, then I have no idea as to why they aren't putting in spears. Of course with the improved mod tools from Oblivion and the new Havok Behavior tool, which makes animations much easier to implement, spears could be easier to make with mods, and who knows, Bethesda may do some kind of DLC adding in a few new weapons types, e.g. Spears, Flails, Crossbows, whatever else.
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Post » Sun Jun 26, 2011 8:24 am

most likely because they dont want to do any other weapon animations
the basic hack n' slash works for all the others, but spears would need a new animation like thrusting
and maybe balancing issues

Truth, spears use unique animations and one of the main complain about Morrowind was bad combat and animations. Without spears they was down to one and two hand animations.
They also probably felt that an class for spears alone would be weak.
I miss them they was nice and would also make a lot of sense with the improved combat system
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Post » Sun Jun 26, 2011 11:28 am

Because Bethesda is secretly scared of the forums becoming flooded with Lusty Argonian Maid references?
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