After seeing the tank gameplay movie I notices awesome smoke effects, awesome lighting and awesome particle effects and Textures were not bad either.

Crysis 2 gives u
-excessive bloom
-unrealistic GI
-low rez textures
-blurry msaa
-dx9

for me it was hard to notice textures on the BF3 demo since it was a stream

i guess we'll get to know that once we can play the game on 1080p

hopefully BF3 has DX11 integrated right this time, BC2's DX11 gave us soft shadows, while DX10 ones looked choppy, even though Crysis 1 had soft shadows even on DX9

I believe it's to early to get into conclusions, since Crysis 2 DX11 nor BF3 has been released yet

If we get a nice texture mod for C2 then who knows, i still get 'pop-in' often.

Crysis 2 gives u
-excessive bloom

I stopped there.
Have you seen BF3's bloom?
You haven't?
Ok. Acquire 100 flashbang grenades, and position them behind a protective transparent screen (For your safety). Arrange a mechanism which pulls all 100 pins out at once, use it, and stare directly at the grenades.
After several seconds you will experience BF3. Proceed to run around in circles for 2 hours, then be killed instantly by a tank or helicopter.

From looking at some released screenshots of BF3, it is definitely more detailed and higher resolution textures for sure. But it isn't mainly just the graphics battle that BF3 will trump Crysis 2 even after DX11 patch(honestly don't think DX11 is gonna turn garbage into gold), BF3 guns appear to have much more realistic recoil from what I saw in the gameplay vids, and that right there will likely prevent full auto strafers as seen all over the place in CoD and Crysis 2. When the game doesn't feel like it's made for 5 year old kids with no eye-hand coordination whatsoever, it may actually be entertaining because it'll feel much more realistic and give players a better sense of being part of the action.

Crysis 2 with DX11 will not be able to top BF3 even as of BF3's current pre-Alpha stage. Don't believe me? Take a look around, Crysis 2 has rich colors and lighting, but there is no attention to detail. And for a PC game's "Advanced Graphics" to not even have AA tweaking, it's just plain obvious that the graphics were initially made to be unadjustable, one setting only, one size fits all.

BF3 is turning out to be a joke. Those multiplayer videos were epic disappointment as the game is essentially BC2 update 2.0. What a waste of a new frostbite engine. It looks pretty much like a reskin rehashed version of BC2. Ironic that Dice is essentially copying COD model and just reskinning a game that came out a couple years ago and calling it new. Just check any of the twitter feeds from E3 all the people demoing the MP say it plays and feels exactly like BC2, epic disappointment.

Required OS will be 64bit and you'll need a DX11 card. It's built from the ground up to make use of things like DX11 and Multi-GPU's.

After seeing the tank gameplay movie I notices awesome smoke effects, awesome lighting and awesome particle effects and Textures were not bad either.

Crysis 2 gives u
-excessive bloom
-unrealistic GI
-low rez textures
-blurry msaa
-dx9

Battlefield 3 will look better, but the things you point out:

- Excessive Bloom - BF3 has that too. And you can turn it off.

- Unrealistic GI - Console version doesn't even have GI. For now Crysis 2 PC is the only game with proper GI. And it isn't unrealistic by any stretch. We just can't see its beauty any more because Crytek disabled the day-night cycles that were available in the leaked beta, even in the multiplayer. I would like to ee a mod to re-enable it.

- Low res textures. Most textures in Crysis 2 are fine. But yes there are a lot of bad ones. I can assure you that Battlefield 3 will have a fair share or bad textures as well, just as Crysis 1 did. But regular textures, yes, will probably be higher resoution in BF3, unless Rygel's mod is epic.

- Blurry MSAA. If it pisses you off so much why don't you give SGSSAA a shot? They can't use FSAA because current graphics cards can't anti-aliase objects on FP16 rendering targets, which is required for the type of HDR Crysis 2 uses. Yes it is a bit blurrier than FSAA. But it looks fine IMO. Set the MSAA level to 1, the Very High level, not the Extreme one. Then it looks clearer.

-DX9. You're getting DirectX 11. Ok it wasn't there at launch. Maybe because it will be decent now? Do you want it to turn out like Crysis? Where DirectX 10 gave you better motion Blur and nothing else at all? Or like Bad Company 2 where DX11 added soft shadows that even MW2 had in DX9?

BF3 is turning out to be a joke. Those multiplayer videos were epic disappointment as the game is essentially BC2 update 2.0. What a waste of a new frostbite engine. It looks pretty much like a reskin rehashed version of BC2. Ironic that Dice is essentially copying COD model and just reskinning a game that came out a couple years ago and calling it new. Just check any of the twitter feeds from E3 all the people demoing the MP say it plays and feels exactly like BC2, epic disappointment.

What?

Because BC2 had jets and 32 vs. 32 battles and far bigger maps on PC than console?

Either way, BC2 was an awesome game, so making is even better isn't a bad thing.

Waste of Frostbite Engine 2.0? How? You're an idiot.

My simple answer is no, it can not.

Why?

Because other than being FPS titles, Crysis 2 and Battlefield really have nothing else in common.

The other reason is, I think the CryEngine 3 is great for Crysis and perhaps other games like it, but it would not fare well in a Battlefield type game. The Frostbite 2 Engine can deliver a more realistic combat environment. It's developers have been working with DX11 longer then Crytek, so they have more experience. Need I mention the destruction engine aspect of Frostbite 2?

To me, they are completely different games, in different categories. I love both the Crysis series and Battlefield series, but for different reasons. I can't wait to re-play Crysis 2 in DX11. I have already seen what DX11 can do in Bad Company 2, so I know what I expect out of Battlefield 3. I think both will use DX11 great, in their own ways. I just think that Dice has a technological and experience lead over Crytek at this point in time.

not a chance in hell
BF3 will kick C2 ass especially on the MP side

Judging from the new trailers (and assuming they were made from full spec PC footage) I'd say crysis 2 is still more graphically superior despite dx9, I'm guessing they have to tone down the dx11 features in BF3 like tessellation because of the destruction part of it.



I'll be getting it anyway but it seems more of an evolution from BC2 rather than a revolution, just hope I don't rubber band as bad.

After seeing the tank gameplay movie I notices awesome smoke effects, awesome lighting and awesome particle effects and Textures were not bad either.

Crysis 2 gives u
-excessive bloomc
-unrealistic GI
-low rez textures
-blurry msaa
-dx9

Battlefield 3 will look better, but the things you point out:

- Excessive Bloom - BF3 has that too. And you can turn it off.

- Unrealistic GI - Console version doesn't even have GI. For now Crysis 2 PC is the only game with proper GI. And it isn't unrealistic by any stretch. We just can't see its beauty any more because Crytek disabled the day-night cycles that were available in the leaked beta, even in the multiplayer. I would like to ee a mod to re-enable it.

- Low res textures. Most textures in Crysis 2 are fine. But yes there are a lot of bad ones. I can assure you that Battlefield 3 will have a fair share or bad textures as well, just as Crysis 1 did. But regular textures, yes, will probably be higher resoution in BF3, unless Rygel's mod is epic.

- Blurry MSAA. If it pisses you off so much why don't you give SGSSAA a shot? They can't use FSAA because current graphics cards can't anti-aliase objects on FP16 rendering targets, which is required for the type of HDR Crysis 2 uses. Yes it is a bit blurrier than FSAA. But it looks fine IMO. Set the MSAA level to 1, the Very High level, not the Extreme one. Then it looks clearer.

-DX9. You're getting DirectX 11. Ok it wasn't there at launch. Maybe because it will be decent now? Do you want it to turn out like Crysis? Where DirectX 10 gave you better motion Blur and nothing else at all? Or like Bad Company 2 where DX11 added soft shadows that even MW2 had in DX9?

-bf3 has bloom but it does not annoy me like crysis 2
-consoles not having GI does not help me. ALso play dirt 2 and dirt 3 for a very good GI
-Fine textures for u means crappy textures for me http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7HjWuvhIhs
-HDR is another cheap trick to make amateurs like you believe that the graphics are good. For me it makes the game look cartoony . So I dont need HDR just give me FXAA. U sound like an amd fanboy with 5770 so u might not know what it is
-I dont give a damn if mw2 was in dx9. I dont own that POS. DX11 is better than dx10 which was a failure. Crytek likes to think they are awesome. Here is a fun idea, why not prove it


And ipwn, ur a crytek fanboy so I dont expect you to accept that crytek is no longer the developers they used to be that respected their community and never hid the facts about their products.

Have fun worshiping crytek
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-bf3 has bloom but it does not annoy me like crysis 2
-consoles not having GI does not help me. ALso play dirt 2 and dirt 3 for a very good GI
-Fine textures for u means crappy textures for me http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7HjWuvhIhs
-HDR is another cheap trick to make amateurs like you believe that the graphics are good. For me it makes the game look cartoony . So I dont need HDR just give me FXAA. U sound like an amd fanboy with 5770 so u might not know what it is
-I dont give a damn if mw2 was in dx9. I dont own that POS. DX11 is better than dx10 which was a failure. Crytek likes to think they are awesome. Here is a fun idea, why not prove it


And ipwn, ur a crytek fanboy so I dont expect you to accept that crytek is no longer the developers they used to be that respected their community and never hid the facts about their products.

Have fun worshiping crytek
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All right. I'm sorry man. For not looking at the ground and the bricks on the wall when playing an FPS game. Because how much depth the cracks on the sidewalk have will definitely change the game for me when I'm shooting aliens. (I don't find looking at the ground very fun.)

When did I say at any point that Crysis 2 looks better than Battlefield 3?

And I've never owned an AMD Graphics Card in my life...so stop jumping to conclusions.

HDR can be great when it's done right. Otherwise it looks cartoonish. Calling it crap just because few games use it the right way makes no sense.

I hate games that sponsored by US goverment !

well sue for expecting higher standards from a crysis title
crysis was known for
-graphics
-sound
-destruction

All of which are not in crysis 2 but are in bf3

Cryengine 3 is more advanced and provides more realism than Frostbite 2 (except maybe for the destruction part)

though Crysis 2 barely uses any of Cryengine 3 features

either

1)the game was rushed (possibly by EA since other games would have come out on the following weeks (portal2, brink,DNF,witcher 2,etc)

2)PC is a port of console, and they had to remove all those features from PC

3)crytek though that the game was awesome already and didn't needed to use cryengine 3 full features

no question, CE3 is amazing piece of tech. And just because a game is multiplat does not mean the devs have to screw pc.

Read http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/06/08/e3-2011-why-rage-will-run-better-on-pc/ it shows Mr. Carmack obviously cared about pc sku

Judging from the new trailers (and assuming they were made from full spec PC footage) I'd say crysis 2 is still more graphically superior despite dx9, I'm guessing they have to tone down the dx11 features in BF3 like tessellation because of the destruction part of it.



I'll be getting it anyway but it seems more of an evolution from BC2 rather than a revolution, just hope I don't rubber band as bad.
Great job grabbing a handy cam video. Lets look at a REAL video in 720p shall we?



Craps on Crysis 2 and Cryengine 3.

would someone from crytek care to comment if they are keep on keeping the graphics crown with the dx11 patch. That means superior to bf3 too

Just to make some things clear. Crysis 2 and BF3 will both have sunning DX11 features and u wont be able to distinct which on is better. Second thing about recoil, in BF3 you have your own hands and your muscles arent strong enough which gives higher state of recoil. In crysis 2 you wear special suit which has the strength of holding a turret and you want to have a recoil from small rifle gun such as scar? It wouldn't really make sense if u would have fair amount of recoil. so shush about multiplayer gameplay, crysis 2 and BF3 have different gameplays. its like comparing World of Warcraft and crysis 2.
on a side note i really hope they code net code good because BC2 has svcky code and its lagging a lot. when i hit a player it takes like 2 secs to acknowledge that i hit him. Either play crysis 2 or don't just dont be cinical assholes(as south park described stans problem xD) and saying this is **** that is ****, it looks like **** or something like that.
Oh and about people biching "it wont be DX11 it will be just some crap" well OFC it will be full on DX11 thats why they didnt release it on start. They started working on DX11 on november or something like that and its gonna be ready when its ready. Crysis 2 has native dx11 (u ask urself how, whats this guy talking ab00t?) because its been built with CRYENGINE 3 which has all dx11 features in it.they just needed to make sure our minds will shatter to pieces the moment we look the first frame.

Guys get over it. Crysis 2 is a god damn console game, don't expect a small dx11 patch(if there even is one) to change that. They have been working with BF3 for almost 4 years, leaving dx9 completely out and pushing the dx10 and dx11. They will fully use the dx11 and all the extra stuff that the pc's can offer.

Also bare in mind that the game is still in pre-alpha, meaning that alot of stuff is gonna get better.
Patrick Bach also stated that a pc that can run BF3 fully maxed is yet to be built.
That means that we got our TRUE Crysis 2 here, not some consolized p.o.s.

If you would know anything about tech, and had done research on C2 and BF3 you would know that BF3 absolutely burries Crysis 2, on the PC side. That is all.

I guess we'll have to wait and see. BF3 has an advantage because it is a DirectX 10.1 game from the ground up and adding DX11 features from 10.1 is much easier than from 9.

The BF3 footage looks like real life.

Just to make some things clear. Crysis 2 and BF3 will both have sunning DX11 features and u wont be able to distinct which on is better. Second thing about recoil, in BF3 you have your own hands and your muscles arent strong enough which gives higher state of recoil. In crysis 2 you wear special suit which has the strength of holding a turret and you want to have a recoil from small rifle gun such as scar? It wouldn't really make sense if u would have fair amount of recoil.

The point is, it does not take near as much effort to hit an opponent when the guns have no recoil, it isn't fun if it's too easy. I don't know how you arrived at justifying why nanosuit soldiers would experience no recoil...

would someone from crytek care to comment if they are keep on keeping the graphics crown with the dx11 patch. That means superior to bf3 too
Crysis 1 never held the graphics crown, STALKER Clear Sky/Call of Pripyat and Metro 2033 blew it out of the water. Crysis 1 only looks "photorealistic" when it has mods. And quite frankly, the STALKER complete mods absolutely demolish anything Crytek has ever done.